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Androgynous Androgyne FAQ and Categorized Posts 1.0 (10-19-2013)


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Hi, I decided to categorize several posts from this forum into a one sheet index. Although only 3 of the 11 pages of posts are included (it took me 4 hours to compile this much), a pretty good amount of information is presented in a somewhat orderly manner. One thing I dislike about forums is how the older posts are not used as much as the current, although there is relevant info. Sometimes the same questions keep popping up. This is one form or method to alleviate the "lost forget post" syndrome. It helps me, and might help others.

Androgyne: Basics
Androgyne: Basics Definitions
Androgyne: Definitions, subcategories. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgyne. Hear how its pronounced at http://www.thefreedictionary.com/androgyne.


From Wikipedia:
An androgyne is a person who does not fit cleanly into the typical gender roles, behavior, or behavior of their society. Androgynes may identify as beyond gender, between genders, moving across genders, entirely genderless, or any or all of these. Androgyne identities include pangender ("all genders"), bigender, ambigender (mixed gendered, interdresser, androgynous) , neutrois (null-gendered, non-gendered, agender), third gender, gender fluid, or other. Androgyny can be either physical and/or psychological; it does not depend on birth sex and is not limited to intersex people.
An individual may identify elsewhere on the traditional gender continuum, or exist outside of it. Bigender identify being along several places on either the traditional transgender continuum. There are more encompassing continuums which have been developed in response to the significantly more detailed studies done in recent years.

Nonbinary Guide http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6217

Androgyne: Basics: Statistics

How to you identify? [Poll] The Nonbinary http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2397&st=

Androgyne Chatroom Meetings [Poll] http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2240

Androgyne: Basics: Gender Identity

Androgyne: Basics: Gender Identity

Secondary Androgyne Traits? (hand, orientation, picking) - [Poll ] http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=58404

Thanks Traci Nicole And Nicksister [COGIATI] http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=266

New Here [COGIATI] http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3481

Androgyne: Basics: Gender Identity: Self-Knowledge

Androgynous To Me Is Being? http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2756

Androgyne: Basics: Gender Identity: Acceptance

Had nothing to do with what I was wearing..... http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=52979

I Need Help Accepting Being Both Male And Female http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=7266

Androgyne: Basics: Gender Identity: Gender Dysphoria

Does anyone else wish they were a shape-shifter? http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=58097

Abrupt, intense week of wishing I was a girl http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=50876

Against Androgyny

Question: What Does Medicine Think Of Androgynes? http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=450

Androgyne: Labels

Xy / Xx http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4938

Androgyne Discovery


Introduce Yourselves http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=36352

Androfeminine http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=53305

New One :)http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3369

Hi Peoples!! http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3766

Don't Know If I'm Suffering From Depression. http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5058

Just Found Out I Am Androgynous. http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5122

Androgyne Discovery: Therapy

Very Confazzled (confused) http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3764

Therapy Today http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5103

Need Advice (about Therapist) ... http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6109

Androgyne: Discovery: Coming Out/Transitioning

The uselessness of coming out http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=56849

How Do I Tell Them? Or Do I? http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=402

I Came Out To My Sister... http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=690

What Do You Say When Your Mom Is Thinking In Binary? http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5243

Androgyne: Confusion

What am i ? http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=55480

Very Confazzled (confused) http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3764

Is All This Just A Phase? [COGAITI] http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=861

What Am I??? http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2138

Hi I'm New, I'm Androgynous And Some Other Things http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4883

Help...or Advice...please? http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5835

Is This What I Am? http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6446

Androgyne: Confusion: Transsexual and Androgyne

TS/TG and Androgynous? http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=47566

Not MtF... Neutrois? http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=56186

Am I transgender or gender queer? http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=55111

Question Of Being Androgyne http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=218

Can Anyone Help Me? http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5278

Who Saw This Coming? http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5904

Weird Question: How To 'become' An Androgyne? http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6767

Androgyne: Subtypes

Fa'afafine http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=55482

Question: Are You Gender Or Non-gender? http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5046

Androgyne: Bigender: Two Genders/Identities

Should Have Realized http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5017

Bigender http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6174

Androgyne: Ex-Transsexual

Back To Square One [FTM] http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4982

Androgyne Expression

Androgyne Expression; Personal Hygiene/Appearance

Living As An Androgyne http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=36

Earrings! http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=58036

How to dress Androgynous and face society http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=47516

Do you feel this way..? (expression, society, prejudice) http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46374

Butch MTF http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=56593

How do I preset as androgynous? http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=55877

Female-presenting Androgyne http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4316

Surprise Even Myself [feminine presentation] http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4804

Clothing Help [MTA] http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6275

Androgyne Expression: female clothing: bras panties

Well Here It Is http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5072

Androgyne Expression: Binding

binder http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=57550

Androgyne Expression: Androgynous body type

Feeling A Bit Meh [wishing for androgynous body type/shape] http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=7747

Altering The Body With Hrt Or Surgery http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=7658

Androgyne Expression: Pictures

Genderqueer pix http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=48238

Androgyne Expression: Self-Portrait

Self Portraits :)http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=35937

Androgyne Expression: HRT

Health implications of HRT http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=56836

Best Drug http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3375

Hormones to Feminize Myself http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=533

Altering The Body With Hrt Or Surgery http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=7658

Androgyne Expression: Andrej Pejic

Andrej Pejic http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=44036

Androgyne Expression; Pronouns

Pronouns http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=35936

Some people are "they." http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=57146

Gender Neutral Pronouns http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6782

Androgyne: Social and Relations

Androgyne: Social and Relations: Society & General

Legality http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=6952

Androgyne: Social and Relations: Self Image

How to dress Androgynous and face society http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=47516

Alter-egos Question!!!! http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3783

Androgyne: Social and Relations: Friends

Awesome friends :-) http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=52974

Androgyne: Social and Relations: Social Acceptance

Do you feel this way..? (expression, society, prejudice) http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46374

Androgyne: Social and Relations: Social Pressure

My problems with the society http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=53334

Androgyne: Social and Relations: Social Groups

Social Groups And Organizations In New England? http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=8150

Androgyne: Love, Lust, Desire, and Romance
Androgyne: Love, Lust, Desire, and Romance

Alright, So What Exactly Is A Hetero Androgyne? http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26296

Responding to friends and/or strangers [lesbian, strap-on, srs, penis] http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=57412

both...really? http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=53722

Had One : Didn't Know It http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4958

Love? http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=7439

Androgyne: Behavior
Androgyne: Behavior
Had nothing to do with what I was wearing..... http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=52979
Androgyne: Behavior: Gender Divide & Gender Mixture
In Need Of Your Insight. [male vs female side dominance http://www.lauras-playground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=7534
Androgyne: Art
V1.0 10-19-2013 Began by categorizing the current page of androgyne posts and the first two in the archives July 2007 to June 6 2009, Mar 2013 to today, 3 out of the 11 pages of topics.
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