Can Female Voice Training Affect the Male Voice?

[Guest LauraJen]

I wondered if any MtF here had any experience of training yourself to speak with a passable voice. It is something I made a little bit of progress with pre-university, then when university started I stopped working on it because it became too hard to practice without being heard on a daily basis. My dad mentioned someone on the radio yesterday, a cis man who apparently had the ability to speak in a female voice, but we couldn't find the clip. I did however find an interesting video in the process - I have left the link out to err on the side of caution with the terms and conditions here (couldn't tell if the person recording it was under 18), but it basically involved exhaling out loud at middle C and speaking in that voice and working from there (as opposed to the falsetto route). It sounds interesting and I will definitely be giving this approach a try.

My main concern though is how it might affect the male voice? It is still early days and I can't really risk any telltale signs appearing in my male voice yet. I am quite keen to do it though as it really has given me hope (especially remembering my post in the pinned thread where I was considering surgery) and I found the video, and the woman who recorded it, very inspirational.

[Guest Sarah Faith]

I practiced my voice for years before I actually started hrt and went full time. I have managed to achieve a normalized female voice (or so i have been told) and really I can still shift back to my old voice with a bit of work. The only problem I encounter now is that it strains my voice after a few minutes similar to how it used to be when i started training my female voice.

However that problem did not arise until I started using my voice exclusively for many many months. In my experience the only real issue i ran into while practicing was a little bit of voice strain, and then occasionally my voice would break when speaking like I was in puberty or something again lol. Anyway you should be fine practicing with out alerting anyone to it.

[Guest Mila]

I have seen various videos of MTFs who can swtich easily between their voices. Depending on which voice you use more often will determine which will be easier for you to use, but you should still be able to have it in your arsenal.

After I have a long practice session, people would normally ask me if I feel alright because it sounds like I have a sore throat. So it probably just comes down to straining it too much for too long, but it goes away after several hours. So I guess you should not really worry about having your male voice affected permanently.

Take care

Mila

[Guest chibi_usa]

I wondered if any MtF here had any experience of training yourself to speak with a passable voice. It is something I made a little bit of progress with pre-university, then when university started I stopped working on it because it became too hard to practice without being heard on a daily basis. My dad mentioned someone on the radio yesterday, a cis man who apparently had the ability to speak in a female voice, but we couldn't find the clip. I did however find an interesting video in the process - I have left the link out to err on the side of caution with the terms and conditions here (couldn't tell if the person recording it was under 18), but it basically involved exhaling out loud at middle C and speaking in that voice and working from there (as opposed to the falsetto route). It sounds interesting and I will definitely be giving this approach a try.

My main concern though is how it might affect the male voice? It is still early days and I can't really risk any telltale signs appearing in my male voice yet. I am quite keen to do it though as it really has given me hope (especially remembering my post in the pinned thread where I was considering surgery) and I found the video, and the woman who recorded it, very inspirational.

You tell me. I'll post my old male voice and my new male voice. Uh hah. I wasn't trying to sound like a guy but I definitely did sound a lot deeper then now.

https://soundcloud.com/user51954709/recording-1 (18) <<<My voice could be a lot deeper if I tried my guy voice. I think it was a lot easier back then.

https://soundcloud.com/user51954709/sounds-from-wednesday-5 (21) <<<Straining. It hurts. Feels like a lump in my throat.

[Guest Squallsong]

Practicing a feminine voice may cause minor discomfort with straining (at which point, you should take a break), that will reflect in your male voice (like Sarah Faith's "sore throat"). With the greater vocal range that you will develop with your feminine voice, the only lasting effect should be an increased vocal range in both male and female speech.

Without surgery or hormone variables (such as HRT or orchi) you will not likely have any noticeable change in your male voice that is not totally within your control. With full-time use of your feminine voice, you may find that your lower ranges can become less comfortable or require effort to reach. Vocal range is something that you must excersise to maintain...use it or lose it.

Take care and be well!

[Guest LauraJen]

Thanks everyone.

I practiced my voice for years before I actually started hrt and went full time. I have managed to achieve a normalized female voice (or so i have been told) and really I can still shift back to my old voice with a bit of work. The only problem I encounter now is that it strains my voice after a few minutes similar to how it used to be when i started training my female voice.

However that problem did not arise until I started using my voice exclusively for many many months. In my experience the only real issue i ran into while practicing was a little bit of voice strain, and then occasionally my voice would break when speaking like I was in puberty or something again lol. Anyway you should be fine practicing with out alerting anyone to it.

It seems to me then that with practice your female voice becomes your "normal" voice over time, but only after a lot of practice and use. I am hoping that by the time I get to that point I will be completely out anyway.

I live in my own place now and I am independent, so no need to worry about my parents anymore. However, they are still parents at the end of the day, and they still phone me every night and I can't avoid the occasional contact with them. As well as a chat they just do it to say goodnight, but they always have done for 24 years and old habits die hard.

I have seen various videos of MTFs who can swtich easily between their voices. Depending on which voice you use more often will determine which will be easier for you to use, but you should still be able to have it in your arsenal.

After I have a long practice session, people would normally ask me if I feel alright because it sounds like I have a sore throat. So it probably just comes down to straining it too much for too long, but it goes away after several hours. So I guess you should not really worry about having your male voice affected permanently.

Apart from my parents phoning me at the end of the night I don't have any contact with anyone now. Maybe if I practice early in the afternoon I should be OK.

You tell me. I'll post my old male voice and my new male voice. Uh hah. I wasn't trying to sound like a guy but I definitely did sound a lot deeper then now.

https://soundcloud.c...709/recording-1 (18) <<<My voice could be a lot deeper if I tried my guy voice. I think it was a lot easier back then.

https://soundcloud.c...rom-wednesday-5 (21) <<<Straining. It hurts. Feels like a lump in my throat.

@chibi_usa - I think 1 is the best, or maybe 2. The higher ones do sound a little forced and if they are uncomfortable then you should probably stick to a lower voice. You sound passable enough with the lower voices in my opinion.

Practicing a feminine voice may cause minor discomfort with straining (at which point, you should take a break), that will reflect in your male voice (like Sarah Faith's "sore throat"). With the greater vocal range that you will develop with your feminine voice, the only lasting effect should be an increased vocal range in both male and female speech.

Without surgery or hormone variables (such as HRT or orchi) you will not likely have any noticeable change in your male voice that is not totally within your control. With full-time use of your feminine voice, you may find that your lower ranges can become less comfortable or require effort to reach. Vocal range is something that you must excersise to maintain...use it or lose it.

Take care and be well!

HRT is still at least 2 years away for me so no need to worry about that. But as I said by the time my male voice gets uncomfortable to use it probably won't matter anyway.

[Guest chibi_usa]

HRT is still at least 2 years away for me so no need to worry about that. But as I said by the time my male voice gets uncomfortable to use it probably won't matter anyway.

When you say: @chibi_usa - I think 1 is the best, or maybe 2. The higher ones do sound a little forced and if they are uncomfortable then you should probably stick to a lower voice. You sound passable enough with the lower voices in my opinion.

Do you mean the lower one is passable as a guy or a girl? Also when you say the lower one (That is the first one right?)

[Guest LauraJen]

I was referring to the clip where you show 4 different voices. I preferred 1 and 2 - they sound very passably feminine and convincing. The others were a little too high but that's just my opinion.

[Guest chibi_usa]

I was referring to the clip where you show 4 different voices. I preferred 1 and 2 - they sound very passably feminine and convincing. The others were a little too high but that's just my opinion.

Ohhhh Ahaha. Thanks. XD but it was a clip 3 yrs ago. I sound like the one that's marked new now. It was just so u can hear my guy voices because that was the only clip I had of my guy voice from before.