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By KathyLauren · Posted
<Moderator hat on> I think that, at this point we need to get the thread back onto the topic, which is the judge's ruling on the ballot proposition. If there is more to be said on the general principles of gendered spaces etc., please discuss them, carefully and respectfully, in separate threads. <Moderator hat off> -
By Abigail Genevieve · Posted
People who have no understanding of transgender conditions should not be making policy for people dealing with it. Since it is such a small percentage of the population, and each individual is unique, and their circumstances are also unique, each situation needs to be worked with individually to see that the best possible solution is implemented for those involved. -
By Abigail Genevieve · Posted
No. You are getting stuck on one statement and pulling it out of context. Trans kids have rights, but so do non-trans kids. That conflict is best worked out in the individual situation. -
By MaeBe · Posted
I get the concept, I believe. You're trying to state that trans kids need to or should be excluded from binary gender spaces and that you acknowledge that answers to accommodate those kids may not be found through policy. I disagree with the capability of "penetration" as being the operative delimiter in the statement, however. I contest this statement is poorly chosen at best and smacks of prejudice at worst. That it perpetuates certain stereotypes, whether that was the intent or not. Frankly, all kids should have the right to privacy in locker rooms, regardless of gender, sexuality, or anatomy. They should also have access to exercise and activities that other kids do and allow them to socialize in those activities. The more kids are othered, extracted, or barred from the typical school day the more isolated and stigmatized they become. That's not healthy for anyone, the excluded for obvious reasons and the included for others--namely they get to be the "haves" and all that entails. -
By Abigail Genevieve · Posted
Context. Read the context. Good grief. -
By MaeBe · Posted
Please don't expect people to read manifold pages of fiction to understand a post. There was a pointed statement made, and I responded to it. The statement used the term penetration, not "dissimilar anatomy causing social discomfiture", or some other reason. It was extended as a "rule" across very different social situations as well, locker and girl's bedrooms. How that term is used in most situations is to infer sexual contact, so most readers would read that and think the statement is that we "need to keep trans girl's penises out of cis girls", which reads very closely to the idea that trans people are often portrayed as sexual predators. I understand we can't always get all of our thoughts onto the page, but this doesn't read like an under-cooked idea or a lingual short cut. -
By Ashley0616 · Posted
I shopped online in the beginning of transition. I had great success with SHEIN and Torrid! -
By Abigail Genevieve · Posted
Have you read the rest of what I wrote? Please read between the lines of what I said about high school. Go over and read my Taylor story. Put two and two together. That is all I will say about that. -
By Abigail Genevieve · Posted
"I feel like I lost my husband," Lois told the therapist,"I want the man I married." Dr. Smith looked at Odie, sitting there in his men's clothing, looking awkward and embarrassed. "You have him. This is just a part of him you did not know about. Or did not face." She turned to Odie,"Did you tear my wedding dress on our wedding night?" He admitted it. She had a whole catalog of did-you and how-could you. Dr. Smith encouraged her to let it all out. Thirty years of marriage. Strange makeup in the bathroom. The kids finding women's laundry in the laundry room. There was reconciliation. "What do we do now?" Dr. Smith said they had to work that out. Odie began wearing women's clothing when not at work. They visited a cross-dressers' social club but it did not appeal to them. The bed was off limits to cross dressing. She had limits and he could respect her limits. Visits to relatives would be with him in men's clothing. "You have nail polish residue," a co-worker pointed out. Sure enough, the bottom of his left pinky nail was bright pink His boss asked him to go home and fix it. He did. People were talking, he was sure, because he doubted he was anywhere as thorough as he wanted to be. It was like something in him wanted to tell everyone what he was doing, and he was sloppy. His boss dropped off some needed paperwork on a Saturday unexpectedly and found Odie dressed in a house dress and wig. "What?" the boss said, shook his head, and left. None of his business. "People are talking," Lois said. "They are asking about this," she pointed to his denim skirt. "This seems to go past or deeper than cross dressing." "Yes. I guess we need some counseling." And they went. -
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By Ashley0616 · Posted
Mine would be SHEIN as much as I have bought from them lol. -
By MaeBe · Posted
This is the persistence in thinking of trans girls as predators and, as if, they are the only kind of predation that happens in locker rooms. This is strikingly close to the dangerous myth that anatomy corresponds with sexuality and equates to gender. -
By Abigail Genevieve · Posted
At the same time there might be mtf boys who transitioned post-puberty who really belong on the girls' teams because they have more similarities there than with the boys, would perform at the same level, and might get injured playing with the bigger, stronger boys. I well remember being an androgynous shrimp in gym class that I shared with seniors who played on the football team. When PE was no longer mandatory, I was no longer in PE. They started some mixed PE classes the second semester, where we played volleyball and learned bowling and no longer mixed with those seniors, boys and girls together. -
By Timi · Posted
Leggings and gym shorts, sweatshirt, Handker wild rag. Listening to new Taylor Swift album while strolling through the rose garden in the park. -
By Ivy · Posted
Grey short sleeved dress under a beige pinafore-type dress. Black thigh highs (probably look like tights). It was cool this morning so a light black colored sweater.
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