thinking about going vegan when i leave home

[Guest zoekalanchoe]

hey im 16 (nearly 17) and a m2f transgirl who lives in regional NSW Australia and when I leave home I wanna become a vegan. there are lots of reasons for this for example im against the farming and abuse of animals (how would you like it if from before you were born you were given a death sentence and forced to spend your life in a cage or pen with your own fesces) and also it's gross to eat another animals flesh and it's against nature to keep animals in boxes they should be free roaming the wild and chosing their own path. not to mention it's so unethnical to make an animal spend it's entire life locked away from other animals just so we as humans can ejoy 5 minutes of ours. one of the main reasons is it feels literally disgusting consuming something elses flesh, milk and chickens periods especially when it's close to it's natural form. it makes me feel sick, however, my parents force me to eat it and I hate it so much. when im 18 I've decided I wanna meet a sugar daddy on the internet and move in with him and I wanna go vegan. the problem is, is I healthy? im severely underweight my parents and psychologists and GP all think I have anorexia but I don't, I just don't like eating the food I'm given. I weigh like 57.5kg and I'm well over 6ft tall. also what about iron and calcium. what happens if I don't have enough of these? will I die? plenty of girls go vegan it's such a great thing and theres literally so many things you can buy that don't have animal products, foods from all over the world. veganism probably also feminises your appearance and the pros vastly outweigh the cons. I just hope when I get away from my parents and convert to a vegan diet I don't get sick that's all oh and I also have the blood type that requires high amounts of iron but spinach, cabbage and other vegetables should give me that

[tracy_j]

Although I myself eat a very varied diet I agree greatly with many of your ideas and have cut back greatly on the meat in recent years but am not familiar enough with Vegan diet to advise, and I know it can be difficult without expert advice.

I would suggest locating and discussing with a dietitian as with careful planning you could make it work. Pulling things together from here and there can mean overlooking an essential element and that is where things can fail and result in bodily disorders. It is not only the major things such as iron, calcium and the vitamins but also numbers of trace elements which, although not a big part of diet, are required for healthy function. For example I think I suffered from zinc deficiency some time in the past, the symptoms I had been getting only disappearing when I started eating pumpkin seeds with my breakfast cereal (I cannot prove this as I was not medically examined and only read about the link later but was an interesting coincidence and is what I believe).

Tracy

[Charlize]

I am a vegetarian. You will find one of the "drawbacks" is the need to do a great deal of cooking as very few prepared foods will be available. We have come to love both tha Mexican rice and bean dishes, Chinese stir fries and many indian dishes. Indian cuisine is amazingly complex and quite wonderful if properly prepared. Much is from a vegetarian cuisine dating from before the pyramids. It can be a healthy way to live but require a bit of extra effort to eat well and maintain health.

Hope you or your sugar daddy can cook!

Hugs,

Charlize

[Guest Annutty]

I was vegan for 2 years (my job right now makes it way too hard to have a vegan diet). I ate mostly beans and rice (black beans are my favorite), veggies, and lots of legumes (peanuts, beans, etc), seeds, and nuts. Avocados have some nice fat in them too, which is something you need to get in your diet (the beans/nuts/seeds helps you out in this area too).

One of the things you will have a hard time getting is B-12, so I recommend getting a supplement. For calcium and iron, get some kale and some carrots, and just eat them raw together...kale is so nasty, but its so good for you....the carrots are also good and help you choke down the kale. Apricots also have a lot of calcium, as well as spinach and other dark green veggies (mustard greens, etc). For protein, get some BEANS! I love beans, and there so many kinds. Charlize is right, you will have to do a lot of cooking (if you cook your own beans, they are incredibly cheap, but you can get canned beans too).

If you have other questions about how I ate during those 2 years, you can PM me

[ciel]

OK, girl we got stuff to cover!

So, first off let me just congratulate you for planning to go vegan, there are plenty of resources at your disposal, and plenty of benefits at offer, so, let's get into it.

Firstly It seems that you've heard Gary Yourokskys speech, it is excellent, so let me address some of your concerns first.

Now so nobody freaks out or anything, I'm not going to start talking about vegan ethics or anything, I'm just going to make some points and back them up with evidence.

1. Hell yeah it is Healthy, just look at the civilisations that are the leanest, its the chinese, japanese, malaysian, thailand, and what do all of these civilisations have in common? the diets were based on high carbohydrate foods like rice, pasta, noodles, if you take a look at the at people with the longest life expectancy, they are the okinowans, ( who eat very little meat) and the seventh day adventist vegetarians.

here is a video talking about it more,

the reason why it is healthy is because plant matter is less calorie dense, so you end up eating more, meaning if you eat healthy you get more nutrients, also because you don't get what eating another animal will give you an excess of, like cholesteral protein or fat, all three of which cause health problems when your diet is high in them.

Cholesteral because it blocks arteries.

protein, because one, animal protein is acidic, so when you eat animal protein your body has to neutralise the acidity, meaning it leeches phospouros from you bones, nasty. Also animal protein has been shown to cause weight gain even when controlled for caloric intake.

Also the calcium thing is silly, the reason being that countries with the highest rates of osteoperosis drink the most milk!

the Iron thing is also silly, and the reason why is because the iron in meat has specifically been shown to cause cancer! ( specifically colorectal cancer).

also don't worry about the defincies so much, you more likely to be deficient in everything apart from b12 right now than if you were a vegan, but that having been said, all you have to do is eat fruit and veggies and you will get more than enough vitamins and minerals.

Veganism will also help you with losing weight too.

(from one of those studies) For BMI, vegetarians were approximately 2–4 points lower than non-vegetarians.

This, of course is all dependant on your current bmi, ( bmi is body mass index, http://bmicalculator.cc/basically it tells you if your over or under weight) at about 16.9 you are underweight, and at risk of a heart attack, now

since this was posted a few months ago I'd recommend eating some fats to quickly put on some weight, ( sounds unpleasant but trust me it's important)

then when you back into a healthy weight range, i'd reccomend you check out 80/10/10, which stands for 80% carbohydrates, 10% protein, and 10% fat.

this diet will help you stay lean long term, unlike most fad diets that make you starve and blow out later.

Now, for advice on 80/10/10, and raw till 4, I recommend that you check out

these three youtubers:

firstly, durianrider, both because he know what he is talking about when it comes to health and fitness, but also because he is cyclist, and the thing about cyclists is that their body type is naturally what you want, ( or so I imagine) slim, and lean. Also the thing about cyclist is that they are catabolic, which is the opposite of anabolic, which is what steroid users are ( and why they use anabolic steroids, (testosterone). at any rate the bottom line is that when you become a cyclist you will have lower testosterone levels ( I couldn't find any scientific articles to back this, but there were numerous articles that said the same thing, from what I read it apparently causes the the thyroid to become less active).

So yeah, if you watch durianrider's channel you'll learn how to stay lean all year round without starving, and also becoming fitter and higher energy levels.

Next is freelee, she is the girlfriend of durianrider, and and also has some great tips and advice, part of the reason why I reccomend her channel is because she has a few videos that will help you start out when going vegan.

and the last one is vegan gains, he knows his medical and nutrional literature well and his videos are very educational.

I just want to point out though that the three above mentioned youtubers are found to be by some, very abrasive and controversial, but at the same time they know what they are talking about well and will tell you exactly what you need to know.

I hope this has helped, if you have anymore questions please feel free to ask!

Edited December 29, 2015 by Carolyn Marie
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[Cosmo]

So with my warped sense of humor I can not resist to add something incredibly silly.

Eating meat is not murder, it's just another way to enjoy a dead animal.

Sorry could not resist. I've been good since it's been posted, but the urge to be silly stupid has overcome me.

[ciel]

So with my warped sense of humor I can not resist to add something incredibly silly.

Eating meat is not murder, it's just another way to enjoy a dead animal.

Sorry could not resist. I've been good since it's been posted, but the urge to be silly stupid has overcome me.

that is very philosophical