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Just now, Birdie said:

So, attraction to individuals rather than gender just makes much more sense. For anyone!

100%.

 

I've only ever been heterosexual, but I consider myself to be pansexual, even if I'm never going to put it to the test!

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had my morning coffee and limeade. Leftovers for breakfast. 

 

Been busy sewing more frayed denim bags like the one in the last photo. More patches and denim to be delivered later today. The handbags have been going as fast as I can make them. 

I should have plenty saved for moving to Oregon when the time comes. 

 

I have been leaking milk for several weeks apparently to a hormonal imbalance but this morning I wasn't leaking any. Maybe it finally stopped. 

 

Have a nice day. 

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Just now, Birdie said:

what is the opposite sex when you're both

 

Sex and gender are two different things, girls may like girls and boys may like boys its who we are attracted too 

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Just now, kat2 said:

 

Sex and gender are two different things, girls may like girls and boys may like boys its who we are attracted too 

I'm attracted to individuals regardless of gender or sex.

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Today is a none discript day dull ccold, a guy asked me out on a date yesterday we have mutually known each other for a while, he doesnt press all my buttons but hes kind and always asks me if i would like to go out for a drink but this time it was more direct.!!! Well Fed Mia CaT and Sammy the squirrel sunday roast is on a slow cook, just people watching across the park whilst thinking about my day maybe a coffee will perk me up?

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Just now, Birdie said:

So, attraction to individuals rather than gender just makes much more sense.

I think this is true for a lot of us.  I was recently trying to explain this to someone.  I'm not sure I got it right.

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Just now, Mirrabooka said:

I've only ever been heterosexual, but I consider myself to be pansexual,

Same, although there have been a couple

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I had a good laugh last night with my wife and a friend watching ALOK's "Biology" hour-long comedy special on YouTube. Searingly funny moments from a trans perspective, interspersed with some deeply touching poetry. 

 

My wife cautiously agreed to join me and a few of my trans friends she has yet to meet in person to see ALOK perform in person next month! I hope when she sees how nice and charming my friends are, she might feel less like a complete outsider around trans people (she already has met some that she likes at a support group we attend together). 

 

OK - time to get ready and pack up my guitar to play music at church this morning! Then an evening potluck with some of my trans friends. I'm making vegan split pea soup with caramelized onions seasoned with smoked paprika and black and white pepper. Should be a good day!

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12 hours ago, Birdie said:

So, attraction to individuals rather than gender just makes much more sense. For anyone!

 

Really, I think it depends on who you are.  Not everybody feels the same.

 

8 hours ago, Birdie said:

I'm attracted to individuals regardless of gender or sex.

 

I guess I'm the same way, sort of. But I definitely prefer females and always have.  I was a lesbian in my girl form.  Maybe its just the way a lot of guys in the USA behave, but most of the time I'm really, really, really not interested in guys.  I also don't find the male form as interesting as the female form... I notice pretty girls in public all the time, but guys are basically something to ignore.  My husband is different, and I was able to bond with him...but I didn't plan it or expect it at all, and was really surprised when I developed curiosity and feelings. 

 

7 hours ago, kat2 said:

ive never had a relationship with a woman it just doesnt feel right to me, Klingons kinda look hunky 

 

Maybe a Klingon woman?  After all, they can be kinda hunky when they hurl heavy objects as part of mating behavior :lol:  Gotta admit the armor was always interesting....

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1 hour ago, awkward-yet-sweet said:

I notice pretty girls in public all the time, but guys are basically something to ignore

For the most part I agree, but some guys (Robert Redford, Tom Selleck, etc...) just really stand out!

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So apparently, I'm a ruthenium now. I have no idea what that is, I guess I'll look it up. 

 

I could never help thinking that for the past several months I've been a geranium! 🌺

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6 hours ago, awkward-yet-sweet said:

Maybe a Klingon woman

Perish the thought a woman of any kind just doesnt have the attachments that males have, they stand ready to attention (grin) that and the smell, hairy chest, lying in bed in his arms whilst playing with his joy stick and then sliding on for a bit of fun!!!

Woman are nice to look at but for me only for how they present themselves, but i am thinking hey i would look great in that, or love that hair style, i dont bother with makeup except a sun screen.Well Sammy the squirrel is enjoying his breakfast on the window ledge, Mia my cat is sending me nuts, shes still very much a kitten cat and wants to play all the time. Well off to pay some bills, Ewww gross ive just received a text message from a girl god knows how she got my number but ive put hers on the blocked list thats really freaked me out

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It's been a while and thought I'd come in and say "hello" again.

 

It's been a while since I've posted, mostly due to dealing with a complex weave of events and things. I just wanted to break back in and just try to push myself to at least come back. I am taking back some of my time with today being a free day off for the US Holiday, so I had some spare bandwidth to check-in. Hope everyone is making through their days and finding what space they can for joy.

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Hi @AmberM nice to meet you. It a cold icky day here in NH. We got nailed with a snow storm and it dumped more than expected. Just playing it safe and staying indoors where it’s nice and warm.

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Yeah, we got some snow last night here in Ohio, but I am more or less doing the same, staying inside, warm, and just trying to prepare for my session 0 for my first-time running a D&D campaign. I'm pretty stoked for that, I've been prepping nearly non-stop it feels like for the last few weeks.

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Oh wow, @AmberM are you designing the map and all the details as well as running the campaign? Is that why it’s taken you so long? I don’t know much about D&D, I hear a lot about it though never played or got into it myself. Although it does sound very interesting. I would like to hear how your fist campaign goes. 

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@SilasG It is a complete custom setting, so that is precisely why it took so long. I have been trying a service called World Anvil and have been building out the world, the history, maps, and all that and have enjoyed doing this. It's been likely my hyperfocus for the last couple of weeks as something productive to do with this pent up energy.

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@kat2 Women vary a lot.  I have to admit, I don't really prefer the kind of girl who spends a lot of time on makeup, jewelry, and clothes.  Some girls go crazy for that stuff, and then there are some like my GF who are the total opposite.  GF sometimes hangs out with the "diesel girls" who are a bunch of female mechanics.  She works on heavy equipment and even laid a huge concrete pad while she was pregnant.  There's something about a pretty girl who is also really skilled with tools that is quite attractive.  Definitely more attractive to me than a guy doing the same thing, I guess because it breaks some social norms. 

 

I think for me, a lot of my preference for women comes down to behavior, or maybe a threat response.  Could be from having an angry and difficult father.  I'm physically small, and so a big guy can just be kind of scary to me.  I don't necessarily believe in the concept of "toxic masculinity" but I've seen some examples.  I was also physically assaulted a couple of years ago by a really large guy.  Being small, my bones just break.

 

But then there are guys like my husband who don't necessarily fit the stereotypes.  He's quite masculine in some of the socially expected ways.  Big house, lots of kids, nice cars, military experience, authoritative when needed, etc.  But in other ways, he's very willing to listen, to understand my feelings, and be affectionate in a manner that is more gentle than you'd normally expect.  When I joined my forever family I knew he was a decent person and a good friend, but I never expected to find attraction and fall in love.  And (in my girl form at that time) I think he expected to treat me like a sister and not take me for a partner. 

 

All that said, I agree there's something about male physicality that I enjoy with my husband.  He just **handles** me in a way that makes me feel so good in my boy form.  Its pretty much the only experience that lets me feel like I fit in my body, that I'm not a mistake. 

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10 hours ago, awkward-yet-sweet said:

I also don't find the male form as interesting as the female form... I notice pretty girls in public all the time, but guys are basically something to ignore.

I pretty much feel this way too.  I don't think I have any men friends anymore.  But I always was an outsider when it came to the guys anyway.

 

But in the last couple of years I have found myself thinking about guys on occasion - although nobody specific.  And I have had guys hit on me (in a pretty explicit manner) at the grocery store a couple of times - which makes me a little more curious.

 

The few friends I have outside of family, are either women or trans people.

I consider myself pan-sexual.  But in reality, I haven't actually "been with" another person for several years.  But, I'm in my mid-70's, so there's that, and I'm openly transgender in a red area of a red state, which doesn't leave me much of a dating pool.

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Just now, awkward-yet-sweet said:

I agree there's something about male physicality that I enjoy with my husband.  He just **handles** me in a way that makes me feel so good

James was the same with me, a real romantic and very charismatic, we both have the same sense of humour girls on the other hand i do not trust, never will, more so when theres a guy around. There is just no switch nothing that appeals in any way with regard to girls, thats not to say i do not talk about women's issues down below which i do that and other health concerns, my mum would talk about family traits such as UTi infections and cranberry Juice, with guys i just feel right 

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@kat2 @Ivy & @awkward-yet-sweet I feel what all of you are saying and expressing. Just remember we’re all individuals and have individual interests. With that said there’s no right wrong or even textbook definition for what we’re supposed to feel or even be attracted to. Sometimes your soulmate can come out of nowhere and be someone you’ve never seen yourself with before. When it comes to friendships and relationships I’ve learned the hard way to follow your instincts and don’t let the physicalities cloud your judgement. I will speak on my behalf and haven’t had any form for serious relationship in about 5 years and in my growth period have found myself. I’ve had several friendships and most all were women and in my 43 almost 44 years of existence have only had 4 male friends and those friendships never lasted. I have a strong negative outlook towards men due to my father and my childhood. I find myself always attracted and safe with a woman and let they could be Cis, Trans Nonbinary. Its doesn’t matter what matters to me is the feminine energy. What is as human beings, society and individuals have to learn to understand and respect is each other and everyone’s right to be happy with themselves and who they choose to be, and associate with.

 

 

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Just now, SilasG said:

I have a strong negative outlook towards men

I suppose i should put my hand up and say i have had very bad experiences around women, I have had several boyfriends date wise, but women just assume and grab. Ist bad experience, i bought a white lycra dress and silver G string, i was trying my dress on and Debra looked at me and said, your not wearing that! you will be flat on your back in less than five minutes, a gang of us went out for the night in one club i went to the toilet and a girl pulled me to the ground and bit my butt really hard she tried to rip my top too, Joyce came running in and decked her, Debra didnt help when she said I would have to go to hospital for a tetanus jab,I said if you think i am going to A and E with teeth marks in my butt! Another bad experience was when i took an overdose i was taken to hospital by ambulance and my eyes came across a bull dog -lesbian-, she looked at me and said at the top of her voice, did you intend to kill yourself? I said no, she let me know she was in charge blood samples taken I was then hooked up to a machine when the machine finished, my body went into shock and neck swollen up i saw everyone rush towards me, next minute when i came round the bull dog was back again, she said bet you wont do that again, i thought callous bxxxxd I was then put in an observation room with you know who at her desk in front of me I got up and started to go toward the toilet, when I was told get back in your bed, i was then escorted to the toilet and had to use it with the door open. A few years later my best friend Debra had a son and I used to babysit, i loved him to bits, Debra came home at three in the morning with her boyfriend went upstairs and i drifted off to sleep, next minute Debra was stood right in front of me naked, i was shocked she said would you like to join us, i felt physically sick, grabbed my coat and never spoke to her again, all my boyfriends have never just grabbed at me yet i suffered nothing but from women, I wouldnt mind but Debra knew i had had several boyfriends, she even tried to pinch Joe off me women are very bitchy too

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Just now, kat2 said:

I suppose i should put my hand up and say i have had very bad experiences around women, I have had several boyfriends date wise, but women just assume and grab. Ist bad experience, i bought a white lycra dress and silver G string, i was trying my dress on and Debra looked at me and said, your not wearing that! you will be flat on your back in less than five minutes, a gang of us went out for the night in one club i went to the toilet and a girl pulled me to the ground and bit my butt really hard she tried to rip my top too, Joyce came running in and decked her, Debra didnt help when she said I would have to go to hospital for a tetanus jab,I said if you think i am going to A and E with teeth marks in my butt! Another bad experience was when i took an overdose i was taken to hospital by ambulance and my eyes came across a bull dog -lesbian-, she looked at me and said at the top of her voice, did you intend to kill yourself? I said no, she let me know she was in charge blood samples taken I was then hooked up to a machine when the machine finished, my body went into shock and neck swollen up i saw everyone rush towards me, next minute when i came round the bull dog was back again, she said bet you wont do that again, i thought callous bxxxxd I was then put in an observation room with you know who at her desk in front of me I got up and started to go toward the toilet, when I was told get back in your bed, i was then escorted to the toilet and had to use it with the door open. A few years later my best friend Debra had a son and I used to babysit, i loved him to bits, Debra came home at three in the morning with her boyfriend went upstairs and i drifted off to sleep, next minute Debra was stood right in front of me naked, i was shocked she said would you like to join us, i felt physically sick, grabbed my coat and never spoke to her again, all my boyfriends have never just grabbed at me yet i suffered nothing but from women, I wouldnt mind but Debra knew i had had several boyfriends, she even tried to pinch Joe off me women are very bitchy too

@kat2 I can respect exactly where you are coming from with your feelings towards women, I’m sorry you endured so much trauma and had so many bad experiences with them as well. It just goes to show you that all circumstances and experiences are different for everyone. As well as how an individual handles and manages traumatic situations. I am so sorry again about your experiences and I pray that on day a genuine and nutritious woman may come into your life and change you outlook a little bit. I’m happy that you have done what it takes to keep yourself safe and happy after all the trauma you’ve experienced.

Blessings and Hugs,

Silas

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@kat2  Sounds like an awful experience!  I've never had something like that happen to me, but then I also haven't dated much.  My GF was my first relationship ever...I had zero experience for the first 25 years of my life.  I was pretty careful with dating her, and I made her take it slower than she would have liked.  I know I couldn't endure a breakup or relationship loss, so I insisted that if she wanted me, she had to commit to keeping me forever.  I was very fortunate because through her, I found my forever family with GF, husband, and 3 other female partners. 

 

But yeah, sometimes girls can be aggressive.  I'm a bonus step-parent to our family's kids.... it is amazing at times how snide and catty young girls can be.  I doubt it improves with age.  GF especially can have a really bad attitude at times, and say things that I wish she wouldn't.  And sometimes she just assumes she can do something with me, when she ought to ask.  We've argued about clothing.  She'll buy something and just try to put it on me, especially female underwear.  She's actually tried to wrestle it onto me before, but without success because I squirm and nip a bit.

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