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Can we please change the description of androgyny in the thread title to include people who are androgynous but instead of having a "non gendered" or "gender-neutral" appearance/presentation/identity are like very gendered but just both masc and fem, man and woman at the same time? We exist and it's really hard that everywhere we go we're basically invisible and all we find is like kind of the opposite of who we are

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I can get a word in for ya, though "Gender-neutral" is the word I believe you are looking for, which is already on there. 

 

"Gender Neutral: suitable for, applicable to, or common to both male and female genders."

 

Meaning both, like you are asking for, but correct me if I am wrong/misunderstanding. 

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It's not so much the definition but the way it's used.

 

Like when people say gender neutral what they are saying is either non gendered or inclusive of all genders. And in general when it's used in trans and especially nonbinary communities it tends to either be gender avoidant or explicitly not gendered. And it's just, people like me seem to be a minority in the nonbinary community which is in a lot of places a minority in the trans community. And some more explicit recognition would be nice especially when I feel like us multigender people get drowned out by the much larger demigender and agender parts of the overall community is all.

 

So the difference is at best gender neutral means any gender, or in a more binary way it means M and or F. And I'm more talking about M and F without the implication or possibility of the "or" part. Sorry I'm tired and not always great with words at the best of times.

 

And I'm sorry if I came off grumpy so to say. I've spent considerable efforts in the past trying to find more appropriate neopronouns for how I feel. And I've just spent hours looking for information on nonbinary transition related topics. And like with pronouns I've quite literally only found information on the exact opposite of what I want. Which is kind of the the point I'm trying to make here but not in the best way possible and I'm sorry for that.

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1 hour ago, MayGay said:

So the difference is at best gender neutral means any gender, or in a more binary way it means M and or F. And I'm more talking about M and F without the implication or possibility of the "or" part. Sorry I'm tired and not always great with words at the best of times.

Ohh, are you asking for a Bigender forum specifically?

 

1 hour ago, MayGay said:

And I'm sorry if I came off grumpy so to say. I've spent considerable efforts in the past trying to find more appropriate neopronouns for how I feel. And I've just spent hours looking for information on nonbinary transition related topics. And like with pronouns I've quite literally only found information on the exact opposite of what I want. Which is kind of the the point I'm trying to make here but not in the best way possible and I'm sorry for that.

No need to apologize!! You are just asking a question, which you are 100% allowed and I encourage asking questions :DD

 

Also when I think of gender neutral, I think, in the middle, 

and of course with non-binary and such I think of neither in specific. y'know? 

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Yeah I know. There's just a lot more ways people can be nonbinary than in the middle, none, or nonspecific. Some nonbinary identities can be extremely specific, skewed in one way or the other, or more I guess I'm closer to all than to the middle.

 

I'm a metalhead and play guitar so I'm going to use an analogy that's like terrible, cliché, and awesome all at the same time.

 

I'm nonbinary but instead of having all the gender knobs at like 5 all mine are jammed at 11 and this thing only goes up to 10.

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Oh I missed you asking me if I wanted a bigender forum specifically and can't figure out how to edit.

 

Like most of us multigender people consider ourselves nonbinary. It'd be nice but not any more nessecary to one for like any of the other more specific nonbinary identities like agender or demigender.

 

But yeah I guess this is the androgyne not androgynous forum. I am androgyne but like in the sense that I'm both masc and fem. A large part of it is yeah I'm both a man and a woman, but that doesn't necessarily mean I'm masc and fem. It's like a parallel but separate identity to bigender for me. I'm like complicated lol.

 

But when I was first learning about all this the two identities that made me go yeah that's me were androgyne and bigender, and suffice it to say I just like kinda ended up going with both. Which seems to be a common theme with me where gender is concerned lol

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1 hour ago, MayGay said:

Oh I missed you asking me if I wanted a bigender forum specifically and can't figure out how to edit.

Only forum mods/staff can edit posts. 

 

1 hour ago, MayGay said:

Like most of us multigender people consider ourselves nonbinary. It'd be nice but not any more nessecary to one for like any of the other more specific nonbinary identities like agender or demigender.

Sure I could ask, so would the forum be called "Multigender Forum"? Or do you have something else in mind?

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I honestly don't even know. Multigender is probably good because there's like bigender, trigender, like I'll just go to n-gender, omnigender, pangender, and a lot of genderfluid people either under the multigender umbrella or heavily overlapping it.

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Oki doki I will ask staff about it :DD

 

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I can see the issue with the forum explanation as it tried to define the term 'Androgyne'. This does tend to restrict the scope somewhat but, taking another view, the terminology of similar things has now got so convoluted that I honestly don't really think about it any more. There are lots and lots of terms meaning slightly different things. Some of the terms used tend to have slighly different meanings at times too. That is why I stick with Androgyne as it is the one term which many of the general public can handle and has foundation.

 

The best description I have seen, and which I use from time to time, is 'Androgyne people are both male and female or neither' (I might not be quoting exact as it was a long time ago I read it online somewhere). This, in effect, would cover things.

 

Tracy

 

 

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