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This is why I'm pagan.

 

The first thing to remember is that unless you're fluent in ancient Aramic, you can't know what the bible originally said. Neither can the people who are quoting it to push their point of view. Also, you'd need the original document. The one they're quoting has been through hundreds, if not thousands of different hands, each interpreting it to their own belief system, times, culture and political goals. It's been through dozens of languages and translated according the belief system of the translator.

 

Now, with that in mind, let's talk about culture. Being transgender isn't a big deal and accepted in multiple cultures across history. The Native American's two-spirit is just one example. Persecution against the LBGT+ community is a relatively modern invention, even in Western culture.

 

We've got that out of the way, so I want you to engage in an exercise: Find someplace quiet. Preferably a natural setting, but if it's cold I don't want you freezing to death. The important part is that it's quiet. Now relax. Concentrate on your breath and feel yourself connecting to the world around you. You're rooted on the floor. Your head is in the sky and you're connected to everything. This could take a minute. Just relax and keep trying. Once you're there (or you wake up from trying, I've fallen asleep during meditation before) think about how you felt. Connected to the greater world around you.

 

So, does it feel like it hates you?

 

Hugs!

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1 hour ago, Jackie C. said:

This is why I'm pagan.

 

The first thing to remember is that unless you're fluent in ancient Aramic, you can't know what the bible originally said. Neither can the people who are quoting it to push their point of view. Also, you'd need the original document. The one they're quoting has been through hundreds, if not thousands of different hands, each interpreting it to their own belief system, times, culture and political goals. It's been through dozens of languages and translated according the belief system of the translator.

 

Now, with that in mind, let's talk about culture. Being transgender isn't a big deal and accepted in multiple cultures across history. The Native American's two-spirit is just one example. Persecution against the LBGT+ community is a relatively modern invention, even in Western culture.

 

We've got that out of the way, so I want you to engage in an exercise: Find someplace quiet. Preferably a natural setting, but if it's cold I don't want you freezing to death. The important part is that it's quiet. Now relax. Concentrate on your breath and feel yourself connecting to the world around you. You're rooted on the floor. Your head is in the sky and you're connected to everything. This could take a minute. Just relax and keep trying. Once you're there (or you wake up from trying, I've fallen asleep during meditation before) think about how you felt. Connected to the greater world around you.

 

So, does it feel like it hates you?

 

Hugs!

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It's difficult to be Christian these days, with so much hate in some parts of the church.

I believe in God, but God is separate from religion. I have more Pagan friends that believe in God and are better people than my Christian friends who claim God as their own  ?

As Jackie mentioned meditation can claim our inner voices and connect us to the earth and whichever higher power you wish to believe in.

Hugs

Robin

 

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I'm athiest and don't really follow religious things, so I am spared from a lot this. The important thing to focus on is that more and more people are becoming trans friendly every day. I know a lot of Christians that support me. I just focus on my own sphere of influence and who I let in there, that is all I can really do.

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WOW that was a pair of real winners -- of what I will not comment in front of minors or those with weak hearts.  They make me very unhappy with a belief system toward a first century Rabbi who I respect for having shaken up his own "church" and took it apart when the chance came.  There were examples of people we know of today as gay and Queer involved in the stories of Rabbi Yeshua which are denied for what they are.-- OK a humor moment!!:

 

On one occasion (at least) a Priest, a Minister and a Transgender sex worker died and were standing at Heaven's gate.  The Priest pushed his way to the front of the line and began telling the story of how many sins he had preached about, and how many many he had made do penitential acts over 40 years.  The gate keeper looked impressed but actually told him he would need 7 years in purgatory to correct some arrogance and lack of charity.  The Priest looked horrified and angry, but St. Peter was adamant, but told him to stick around for a minute or two.  The minister shouldered in next and began telling how many sinners he gotten to come to altar calls, and how many he had nearly drowned with baptism to wash their sins, but he too was given 55 years in Purgatory because he had spent offering money on a jet plane.  St. Peter then saw the Trans Hooker, and told the two men to get out of the way, Peter rushed to the woman and hugged her and called out to the gate to actually open and go right in, someone special was waiting for her to hug her all the more and comfort her and as she went in joyful music played.  The two clergy started to Argue with Peter about all the sinning the woman had done and how they had preached against it and they were being punished and she wasn't  Old Peter looked them in the eyes and said "Look fellas, you make her life so full of hell, she more than served any time she might have been due!  Get moving

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5 hours ago, VickySGV said:

WOW that was a pair of real winners -- of what I will not comment in front of minors or those with weak hearts.  They make me very unhappy with a belief system toward a first century Rabbi who I respect for having shaken up his own "church" and took it apart when the chance came.  There were examples of people we know of today as gay and Queer involved in the stories of Rabbi Yeshua which are denied for what they are.-- OK a humor moment!!:

 

On one occasion (at least) a Priest, a Minister and a Transgender sex worker died and were standing at Heaven's gate.  The Priest pushed his way to the front of the line and began telling the story of how many sins he had preached about, and how many many he had made do penitential acts over 40 years.  The gate keeper looked impressed but actually told him he would need 7 years in purgatory to correct some arrogance and lack of charity.  The Priest looked horrified and angry, but St. Peter was adamant, but told him to stick around for a minute or two.  The minister shouldered in next and began telling how many sinners he gotten to come to altar calls, and how many he had nearly drowned with baptism to wash their sins, but he too was given 55 years in Purgatory because he had spent offering money on a jet plane.  St. Peter then saw the Trans Hooker, and told the two men to get out of the way, Peter rushed to the woman and hugged her and called out to the gate to actually open and go right in, someone special was waiting for her to hug her all the more and comfort her and as she went in joyful music played.  The two clergy started to Argue with Peter about all the sinning the woman had done and how they had preached against it and they were being punished and she wasn't  Old Peter looked them in the eyes and said "Look fellas, you make her life so full of hell, she more than served any time she might have been due!  Get moving

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"I want you to come to my office next week for follow-up.  Have you ever had a genetic test of any sort?" "No." "Well, your testes - one looks at first glance more like an ovary." "Ovary. Can I have kids?" "Too soon to tell.  You look happy." She did.  "Bob, you look stunned." "I am." "Given what happened earlier today we want to keep you overnight for observation.  I understand you are a trauma victim and something triggered it." "I got a punch thrown at me in kara-tay class, is all. I am a wimp." "Well, I will let you two talk for a minute and they will come and get you shortly.  No bad news here." "They are coming to take me away, hah-hah, they are coming to take me away," Taylor chanted. "Bob, I am not done with kara-tay.  I want to at least finish a first class. I mean, you paid for it and I want you to get your money's worth." "I think I got that." "Kiss me, you fool,"  she said, and he did, with energy.        
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      Welcome Mattie! I would recommend the first step is finding a gender therapist and see if you are or aren't. Then one of the biggest steps if you are do you want to start hormone replacement therapy. The decision should be thought long and hard. There are irreversible effects. Looking forward to your next post! Take care!
    • Ashley0616
      Congratulations on being able to pick up a cancellation! I hope to hear more updates about your transition. 
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