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Groundbreaking Study: Cis and Trans Children Know their Gender at Birth


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Jackie C.

News that should shock absolutely nobody and will be dubbed "Fake News" by the people that need to hear it.

 

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This issue is a tough one for me to deal with, but it's also very important that I do.

"That Cis and Trans Children Know their Gender at Birth." Of course I must have also known that, but don't remember. And this statement is not true for me: "Researchers also found that transgender children continue their transition regardless of acceptance or acknowledgment by parents." My father did not approve of his first son acting effeminate, so once a week he would hold me down and scream in my face and hit me with his belt until I agreed with him. This happened from ages three until six about once a week. That suppressed it well. I don't remember a word he said. I do remember his anger. I do remember it was all my fault. But I survived it and him and the suppression to become today's Davie. Something drove me to seek out the truth in the world my whole life and that served me well. I continue to survive and grow and even thrive. Thanks all for being part of my thriving era.

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tracy_j

I don't know about the research but do know I have always felt as I do. The earliest I remember that I can latch to is around 18 months as I had traumatic disease (measles). It has implanted a starting point rather than vague memories which most may have.

 

Tracy

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LaurenA

@tracy_j Every time I hear a story like yours I begin to wonder if I'm really trans.  I didn't even think about it until it was pointed out to me much later in life.

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Bri2020

I'm not sure if I "knew" if I was trans at an early age. I remember that around 8-10 I would fantasize about transforming into a woman in my sleep. That led to early crossdressing.  Most of the time though, I just went around being a boy and not having dysphoria.  I suppressed all that for decades but when I look back, it's obvious that my life should have been as a woman. My friend choices, jobs, relationships etc were all influenced by a subconscious need to fulfill my femininity.  Dysphoria didn't really kick in until recently in my life.  @LaurenA, we all discover ourselves at different times and places in our lives, don't question your "transness" just because it came later.

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I knew it early on that something was wrong - but not what it was. I played baseball and guy stuff and was afraid of girls probably because I that wasn't what my body said and not my heart and mind.

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VickySGV

I have a grandchild that is MtF Trans who only came out a year ago at age 15 and other family members are in the "I didn't see it coming" mode quoting all sorts of things about why they think it is a phase, and worse, may be an act.  (This to MY face.)  For me, it is thinking back though and seeing many subtle signs that have been there about the way she treated classmates and interacted with them which upset one teacher who interpreted her peer friendship toward some girls in their class as being unacceptable male aggression toward the other girls. The fact that my grandchild is a gifted musician also covered some of her "signs" for out family members, and I admit I see some signs of more female behavior in how she uses the music as discipline over ADD.  Her choice of personal music to learn and play is that of more feminine appeal.  I have not had a clear space to discuss this with her one-on-one due to the pandemic but it will be interesting when we can do it.

 

My own childhood was "covered" by autoimmune problems that kept me out of the "boy" activities expected of me for long periods, where I could and did enjoy "fine muscle" activities such as hand crafts where my creative energy could be safely used, rather than physical energy which I did not have.  It also led to precocious reading in both science and fine arts that at the time were not labeled "boy".  It is only in looking back on the totality of my identity preferences in those days that I too see the GD guide markers and recognize my luck in my medical situation that covered for my real feelings. 

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tracy_j
21 hours ago, LaurenA said:

@tracy_j Every time I hear a story like yours I begin to wonder if I'm really trans.  I didn't even think about it until it was pointed out to me much later in life.

 

I think everyone is different. Quite a lot of the time I do find things difficult to fully understand but I have never been male enough to push my femininity aside, just having to hide it at times.  I too wonder if I am trans, in fact, often not really considering myself so, at least in the generally accepted form. That is why I stick with androgyne as I am not male at all in thought but have little dysphoria about my body. I literally feel at one with women and in female company whereas the other extreme, all male groups and situations, feel really opressive and do give me nausea and bad headaches. This isn't down to fear as it has still been the case in lots of occasions in which I was strong enough to handle any issues. I think it's just the male psyche. I know that we often compare and judge our thoughts and actions against others' to determine ourselves but there are times when we just have to go with our instincts. Yes it's good to question but don't let your inner feelings be quashed as your spirit need to live.

 

Tracy

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