Jump to content
  • Welcome to the TransPulse Forums!

    We offer a safe, inclusive community for transgender and gender non-conforming folks, as well as their loved ones, to find support and information.  Join today!

Where to Start?


Dartti Dare

Recommended Posts

Just wanted to quickly ask concerning YouTube voice training videos... WHERE DO I SRART! ? Does anyone have any suggestions? I no sooner find a YouTuber that seems good, start watching their videos and then they stop because now they want you to continue with privet lessons for money. Not an option for me. Or, I find someone that I like but I cant figure out which videos to start and then continue with. No one ever says "Start with THIS video, then watch this One, then THAT one...", and so froth. Any opinions on who worked for you and are they easy to navigate? I REALLY want to start working on my voice. It's the only thing left (that i feel that is in my control) that is causing me serious dysphoria. 

 

Thanks and love you all. ?

-Dartti

Link to comment

transvoicelessons  My speech pathologist actually references their work from time to time so I consider it a fairly good resource.

Link to comment
2 hours ago, Kelly2509 said:

transvoicelessons  My speech pathologist actually references their work from time to time so I consider it a fairly good resource.

I've heard good things about her also. She did post a video recently for beginners, but like all the other Tubers, after that you're kinda left floundering as how to where to go after that. She is someone I will decently look closer into though. (albeit, she get's a little too technical at times)  

Link to comment
1 hour ago, Dartti Dare said:

she get's a little too technical at times

Yeah that's my only beef.  Sometimes she gets into areas where I just dont understand things and I suspect there is technical stuff ahe covered in other videos that i just haven't learned.

Link to comment
2 hours ago, Kelly2509 said:

Yeah that's my only beef.  Sometimes she gets into areas where I just dont understand things and I suspect there is technical stuff ahe covered in other videos that i just haven't learned.

? Yeah. You can tell by the stuff that surrounds her she's a pro but I think she also forgets sometimes we're not all sound engineer geeks. 

Link to comment
5 hours ago, Dartti Dare said:

Just wanted to quickly ask concerning YouTube voice training videos... WHERE DO I SRART! ? Does anyone have any suggestions? I no sooner find a YouTuber that seems good, start watching their videos and then they stop because now they want you to continue with privet lessons for money. Not an option for me. Or, I find someone that I like but I cant figure out which videos to start and then continue with. No one ever says "Start with THIS video, then watch this One, then THAT one...", and so froth. Any opinions on who worked for you and are they easy to navigate? I REALLY want to start working on my voice. It's the only thing left (that i feel that is in my control) that is causing me serious dysphoria. 

 

Thanks and love you all. ?

-Dartti

I started watching YouTube videos. I like “This is your girl Z” - TransVoiceLessons. She is a bit technical but I find that background theory helpful. She talks about R1 and R2 resonance, forward resonance in the mask, manipulating the space in the vocal tract to change pitch, and goes into some detail technically on how that happens.

 

I started voice therapy at Kaiser last week and shared my understanding about voice dynamics and where my voice sits on the spectrum and I was speaking her language and we progressed fairly rapidly through some diagnostics and she prescribed some daily exercises until the next meeting. Mostly practice feeling a buzzing sensation in the mouth, tongue and cheeks on certain consonants, especially words and phrases containing “m” and “n”.

 

I had an appointment with a throat doctor this morning to explore a tracheal shave and he talked at length about the difference between a male and a female voice, especially when there has been trauma. A female may be speaking in a very low hoarse whisper but it’s still recognizable as female due to speech patterns and intonation. He thinks this is a stronger marker even than pitch or resonance.

 

I also ran across this while googling this subject. It’s fro 2005 but it’s very practical and hands on. It compares the process to learning a foreign language…

https://www.genderlife.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/voicebook020.pdf

 

food for though…

Link to comment
22 hours ago, AgnesBardsie said:

I started watching YouTube videos. I like “This is your girl Z” - TransVoiceLessons. She is a bit technical but I find that background theory helpful. She talks about R1 and R2 resonance, forward resonance in the mask, manipulating the space in the vocal tract to change pitch, and goes into some detail technically on how that happens.

 

I started voice therapy at Kaiser last week and shared my understanding about voice dynamics and where my voice sits on the spectrum and I was speaking her language and we progressed fairly rapidly through some diagnostics and she prescribed some daily exercises until the next meeting. Mostly practice feeling a buzzing sensation in the mouth, tongue and cheeks on certain consonants, especially words and phrases containing “m” and “n”.

 

I had an appointment with a throat doctor this morning to explore a tracheal shave and he talked at length about the difference between a male and a female voice, especially when there has been trauma. A female may be speaking in a very low hoarse whisper but it’s still recognizable as female due to speech patterns and intonation. He thinks this is a stronger marker even than pitch or resonance.

 

I also ran across this while googling this subject. It’s fro 2005 but it’s very practical and hands on. It compares the process to learning a foreign language…

https://www.genderlife.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/voicebook020.pdf

 

food for though…

Thanks a bunch. I'll check it out.

Link to comment
1 hour ago, Dartti Dare said:

Thanks a bunch. I'll check it out.

Here’s another good source

 

HOW TO: Move your larynx without tension (PART TWO)

HALLOWEEN EDITION! 
Get your treat at undeadvoice.com/treat

The theme this month is the larynx. 

Today, we’re going to talk about how to engage and make stable the upper part of the web. The upper web starts again at the hyoid bone, the top of the larynx, and inserts into the floor of the mouth, the mandible or jaw, and up behind the ear. 

STEP ONE: Hold out the sound "ooo" and flare your nostrils. 
STEP TWO: Eavesdrop behind you, feeling your ears go up and back, aligning over your shoulders and hold out "ooo". 
STEP THREE: Do both of those together (ear align + nostril flare)

It brightens because by engaging the nostrils and ears, you’re stabilizing the upper part of the web. And because the upper is taut and the bottom web is not, the spider goes up. 

So that’s your trick of the week. For your treat go to: undeadvoice.com/treat 

❤ Nicole Gress

Link to comment

Ashley Adamson on YouTube has just a single video on voice (and hers is fantastic), but she describes everything in easy to understand terms. She doesn't get all technical. That could be a good, easy to understand starting point. I'm gonna check out the other resources here too. Achieving a feminine voice is my biggest concern since my job involves tons of public speaking.

Link to comment
  • 3 weeks later...

First, it helps to understand what you need to do with your sound-making parts of the body ?

Zheanna from TransVoiceLessons is fantastic. For me, it really clicked after watching this video of hers with a clear 3-step process:

The Art of Voice Feminization | Part 2A: Larynx Basics, How to Raise the Larynx, and Common Issues - YouTube

 

Also, this course on Reddit provides a lot of information and links:

L's Voice Training Guide (Level 1) for MTF transgender vocal feminization : transvoice (reddit.com)

 

And when you understand what to do, just practice, practice, practice:

Harvard Sentences with Lyrics - YouTube

 

Good luck! ?

Link to comment

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Who's Online   2 Members, 0 Anonymous, 129 Guests (See full list)

    • Abigail Genevieve
    • violet r
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      80.6k
    • Total Posts
      767.9k
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      12,013
    • Most Online
      8,356

    Quillian
    Newest Member
    Quillian
    Joined
  • Today's Birthdays

    1. l.demiurge
      l.demiurge
  • Posts

    • April Marie
      Welcome to the forums, Violet! We glad you found us! No one here will judge you. Each of us is unique yet we all share some similarities. And many of us are in the relative early stages of self-discovery.   Take time to wander the sections of the forums. You’ll find lots of information and ideas.   Ask questions if you feel comfortable. You will find lots of people willing to share their experiences.   Is it possible for you to possibly work with a gender therapist? Many of us have found that to be extremely helpful in finding our identity and out true selves.   Just jump in. We don’t bite! We’ve all been in some version of where you are.
    • April Marie
      Literally. 
    • Abigail Genevieve
      Shameless plug for my "Taylor" story down in Stories You Write.  I am not Taylor and the experiences she goes through are not what has happened to me, but there is an emotional expression that I think is the best way to say some things that I don't know how to say otherwise.  I am not Bob, either.  But you might find out some things about me by reading it.  And I hope it is a good read and you enjoy it.  I am not done with it.  If you would like to comment on it, I would appreciate it.
    • Abigail Genevieve
      Tuesday night.  They had a quick supper together at a fast food place.  Bob went off to teach karate and Taylor locked herself inside her apartment and worked on her hiring plan.   First the web site problem.  The two guys who ran it were self-taught and knew little.  It currently had three pages, the Home page, the About page and the Contact page,  She asked them to work with Karen in terms of redesigning it and she needed three designs to show Gibbs tomorrow.  The problem was three fold: the two guys and Karen.  Millville was a small town and all three were relatives of members of the Board.  Millville, Millvale. She was doing it.  People here called it either way, sometimes in the space of a few seconds.  She thought it was Millville.  All three had complained about the work, because the two boys regarded it as done and untouchable, even though they actually had not worked on it at all for months.  Like a number of people, they showed up and collected generous pay checks and did nothing.  She had looked at a number of websites and she had been told the company wanted one both internal and external customers could log into.  Her chief difficulty at the moment there was that there was very little content.  She decided to send the three complainers out tomorrow to take numerous pictures of the thirty acres  Or was it forty?  No one seemed to care. She cared, because she needed to get it right.  She debated outsourcing the website to a company, but first she needed something to outsource, and before then she needed to decide whether to keep these people.  She didn't need to mess with them.  So she decided to recommend they hire an experienced website developer with management skills. Would such a person come to Millville?  The schools were good, because the company had poured money into them, and the streets were well paved.  The company had bought all the abandoned houses and maintained them, hoping someday they would be filled again. Millville was crime-free.  People did not lock their doors. Neighborly. Very conservative, but in a good way.  Hard working, ethical, honest. Maybe the Chinese money was corrupting the town?  Not sure.  So she thought they would hire someone, even if it were a remote position.  She would rather have them here, but she would take what she would get.  That would move the website out of her hair. Secondly, she needed an effective presenter.  She could not do all these presentations herself.  She had natural talent but a lot could be passed on. She needed another Mary and another Brenda, or their understudies, effective hardworking people.   Bob. Was he okay with this?  He said she was Management.  Was that a problem?  And she was now earning a ridiculous salary, which she put down to company dysfunction more than anything she had done.  Was that a problem? She was not sure.  He was highly competitive and he had that male ego.  She did not.  A feeling of guilt rose.   Her therapist had brought up her feelings of guilt about not making Dad's expectations, never being the man Dad wanted her to be.  She never could, and this physical evidence backed that up.  What would the doctor say?  She thought about it, and that her therapist said she needed to find a sexual assault survivor's group more than a transgender group right now. Was there one here?  She thought about serving in a women's shelter.  There was one here, oddly enough connected to the church they had visited.  That F on her drivers' license would help.  She was waiting until after she talked to the doctor again to move on that stuff.   Was Bob really buying 160 acres near the old air strip on speculation?  Much of the land around Millville had been for sale for a long time.  That land was being offered at a dollar an acre, the owners having inherited it and now living out of state. Common knowledge.  They would take the first offer, and it had been for sale since the airstrip closed twenty years ago. Airstrip.  That would help.  Not tonight. Focus, girl, she told herself, and read over her notes to do so, which were making less sense the further down she went. It was eleven, and she gave up and went to bed.
    • violet r
      .my name is violet. I'm new here and thus is my first try at forums. I'm 45 and just recently having came to terms of who I really am. Thought a lot of self discovery since I stopped drinking. Drinking was my coping mechanism to hide a lot of thing. There were plenty of signs though the years. As I look back. That i hid inside. Now really sure what made all of this bubble to the surface at this time in my life.  Mabye it was waiting for me to be open minded and ready to accept that I am trans. I have a very unhealthy environment at home that is anti trans. I really don't know what else to say but hi. I hope everyone here will be accepting of me and me work through my journey of finding the real me. I know that since I accepted it I have been much happier than I can remember. Being to real me makes me happy. I hate having to hide this all the the time at home. I work retail management and have no idea if I could even stay in this business if I am to fully come out. Wow that was scary saying all that. It's a first for me
    • Ivy
      It is a lifesaver for a lot of us.
    • Abigail Genevieve
      Thanks.  What I do as a man is what a woman would do if she were a man.  There is just something feminine about the way I act as a man.  It's not that being a woman is actually better, or something to aspire to, but it is just that I am one, while not being one.   If beating my head bloody to get rid off this stupid dysphoria would fix it I would find the nearest wall, but I know that if I did that, when I woke up, it would still be there.   If I did not have this struggle I would be someone else and I would be less of a person than I am.  They say an oak tree growing in an open field is far stronger than one in a forest.  The storms come and go and I stand.   This forum is the first time I have interacted with other people struggling with the same struggle and parallel struggles. It helps.
    • Ashley0616
      I'm sorry! :( Hopefully something better will come up
    • Ashley0616
      Thank you! Did great with the kids
    • Sally Stone
      That's me too, Mae.  I don't think it's me as much as it is the camera (that's my story anyway).  Cameras hate me.  I never met one that liked me.  I often wish I was photogenic; sadly, not so much.   However, you look terrific in that selfie! 
    • Sally Stone
      April, I'm so glad things went well when you came out to your spouse.  So often, things can go sideways.  It's a hurdle we all have to jump at some point.
    • violet r
      I totally understand what you just said. I can relate to this very well. I have a lot.of similar feelings.
    • KymmieL
      Well it is a no go for the new position. OH, well. nothing ventured nothing gained.   Kymmie
    • Davie
      Dickey Betts, the singer, songwriter, and guitarist of the Allman Brothers Band whose piercing solos, beloved songs and hell-raising spirit defined the band and Southern rock in general, died Thursday morning 04/18/2024 at the age of 80. Rest in peace...
    • MaeBe
      Thank you @Mirrabooka!
  • Upcoming Events

Contact TransPulse

TransPulse can be contacted in the following ways:

Email: Click Here.

To report an error on this page.

Legal

Your use of this site is subject to the following rules and policies, whether you have read them or not.

Terms of Use
Privacy Policy
DMCA Policy
Community Rules

Hosting

Upstream hosting for TransPulse provided by QnEZ.

Sponsorship

Special consideration for TransPulse is kindly provided by The Breast Form Store.
×
×
  • Create New...