Netflix Staff Stage Walkout Over Chappelle Show & Mgt. Response to Protests

[Carolyn Marie]

https://www.erienewsnow.com/story/45008424/why-some-netflix-employees-are-demonstrating-today

 

 

Another clueless company exec.  How many have there been in the last year or two?

 

Carolyn Marie

[VickySGV]

Netflix and the comedian both need to realize the U.S. has law that says you have a RIGHT NOT TO SPEAK as well as a right to opinions.  It is when you fail to use your right to remain silent and express your opinions that life gets difficult for you and others.

[Jackie C.]

I think the biggest problem is that people conflate their right to speak with the "right to be immune from consequences from that speech." A comedian has the right to say whatever he wants in his act. I have the right to choose to listen to someone else. If I'm engaged in a professional capacity, I have right of refusal.

 

Now I'm being an ass for no reason if I walk out in the middle of a show, but if I were to refuse the work initially, I think I still have the moral high ground. Yes, that means that I think you can refuse to bake me a gay wedding cake if you want. You are a private entity. You can do what you want with your business. You're being a poor example of a person, but you're within your rights. If you agree THEN cancel a week down the line, we have a problem but if you tell me at the start that you don't want my business, I'm fine with that.

 

Hugs!

[Davie]

Chapelle special spurs Netflix walkout; ‘Trans lives matter’ 

Elliot Page, who stars in Netflix’s “The Umbrella Academy” and is transgender, tweeted that he stands with the trans, nonbinary and people of color working at Netflix who are “fighting for more and better trans stories and a more inclusive workplace.” 

https://apnews.com/article/arts-and-entertainment-los-angeles-elliot-page-dave-chappelle-a80a7a9267520c5bbc8f0b755302b5b2

[VickySGV]

4 hours ago, VickySGV said:

It is when you fail to use your right to remain silent and express your opinions that life gets difficult for you and others.

 

3 hours ago, Jackie C. said:

I think the biggest problem is that people conflate their right to speak with the "right to be immune from consequences from that speech."

 

We are on the same wavelength here.

[Vidanjali]

Yesterday, I unexpectedly wound up having a rather productive conversation about this with a colleague of mine. It went a bit like this.

 

Him: I just don't get how things are these days. Comedians aren't even allowed to tell jokes anymore? 

 

Me: There is a difference between comedians telling jokes and comedians normalizing hate speech.

 

Him: But why can't people just take a joke? I'm an Italian American and if someone tells me an Italian joke, I think it's very funny.

 

Me: Italian Americans are not a persecuted minority.

 

Him: But we used to be!

 

Me: Yes, but they are not any more and haven't been for a long time. No Italian-American today is currently very statistically likely to be assaulted or murdered, nor are they denied basic human rights. It's an issue of clear and present danger. So when a super famous comedian with a huge platform makes transphobic jokes and openly sides with hate groups, it is harmful and irresponsible action because by doing so he's basically telling his audience that it's okay and right to persecute an already disenfranchised group of people. 

 

Him: (thinks...nods his head) Okay, I see what you mean. Thanks for making clear for me. 

 

He is a good friend of mine and a very smart guy whom I admire a lot. It did my heart good to have had this exchange with him. If ANYTHING good can come of a crisis of this nature, I hope there will be lots more productive dialogs which result in understanding and increased compassion. 

[Guest]

14 hours ago, Vidanjali said:

Yesterday, I unexpectedly wound up having a rather productive conversation about this with a colleague of mine. It went a bit like this.

 

Him: I just don't get how things are these days. Comedians aren't even allowed to tell jokes anymore? 

 

Me: There is a difference between comedians telling jokes and comedians normalizing hate speech.

 

Him: But why can't people just take a joke? I'm an Italian American and if someone tells me an Italian joke, I think it's very funny.

 

Me: Italian Americans are not a persecuted minority.

 

Him: But we used to be!

 

Me: Yes, but they are not any more and haven't been for a long time. No Italian-American today is currently very statistically likely to be assaulted or murdered, nor are they denied basic human rights. It's an issue of clear and present danger. So when a super famous comedian with a huge platform makes transphobic jokes and openly sides with hate groups, it is harmful and irresponsible action because by doing so he's basically telling his audience that it's okay and right to persecute an already disenfranchised group of people. 

 

Him: (thinks...nods his head) Okay, I see what you mean. Thanks for making clear for me. 

 

He is a good friend of mine and a very smart guy whom I admire a lot. It did my heart good to have had this exchange with him. If ANYTHING good can come of a crisis of this nature, I hope there will be lots more productive dialogs which result in understanding and increased compassion. 

Thank you for sharing this. I wish I had the ability to have conversations like this. 

[MelanieTamara]

I'm puzzled by this chapelle backlash. He had a wonderful relationship with daphne. If one watched the special, at the end, chapelle informed us that he is setting up a fund for daphne's child. I don't think that's transphobia, rather, I think that is the best humanity has to offer.

 

As for trans related jokes, bring em on I say. Having a laugh at myself or feeling a bit of sarcastic pain is good for my soul. It reminds me that I am living in this world....which of course has always been the ultimate goal.