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Hi everyone!

 

Hope y'all are doing swell.

 

Come Friday will be my First month on HRT!🤗

 

I'm not sure if I feel very much different or see any changes.🤔

 

I think maybe a bit more fat on my bum?

 

But I dunno...it doesn't look terribly different...maybe I'm on Placebo?🤨

 

All I am worried about though is going to the doctor in Friday and them telling me I've gained weight.

 

I don't believe I have but I have been hungrier of late (although could be just that its getting kinda cold or I'm getting colder or something)🥶

 

Certainly in the nipple department, things look fairly similar. 🤫

 

Well, I guess I'll wait to see what the doctor says in 3 days.

 

I'm still getting 'misgendered' (I mean in a good way like seen as female) in public settings which I guess is good.

 

The rather stern no nonsense lady at the AAA clocked me as a 'Miss' as did a Gentleman in the self check out Aisle of the Supermarket recently who graciously let me go ahead of him bc he said I had my hands full ( 4 items bless him)☺️

 

And the male drivers still stop for me to let me go first now and again.

 

But I'm not sure how my 'Non Strangers' feel about me.

 

I had a picture taken recently with me in a tight crop top and (quite obvious) breast shape (BC of the Bra underneath mostly) and posted it on my Instagram. My mom who is turning 80 in 4 months seems to have liked the picture... I think maybe her eyesight is failing.🙄

 

Of course deep inside I was hoping she knows and has given me a pass.😌

 

On Bras, I think the social media is also coming on to me bc I have started to get a slew of advertisements on my Facebook for Bras...

 

And not just Bras but Bras for small chested women AAA size, created by small chested women bless them.🤭

 

How ever did they know?

 

Anyway hoping this is all part of the normalcy of low dosage transition. No mood sings or hot flashes thank god!😅

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I kept waiting for some kind of change simply slap me.  I think what helped me the most was thinking about how long it takes a girl to develop.  Over time others noticed the changes more than i do.  While i'm glad you are seeing your doctor soon i wouldn't worry too much especially if you are already passing.

 

Hugs,

 

Charlize

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Many thanks Charlize.

 

Because, any perception of physical change or evidence that I am passing does help.

 

After all, I am the one that needs convincing the most.🙄

 

I sat down today and felt I was a bit more 'haunchy' (not sure if this is a word). Looked at myself in the bathroom before a shower and feel like I'm getting ever so slightly more thick around the upper thighs/hips.🤔

 

It's spurring me to take other steps.

 

Already I am using my 'girl' voice a bit more albeit still bashfully and intermittently.

 

I'm thinking of doing the electrolysis next. I don't have much facial hair frankly so hopefully it won't cost. My sister is mulling gifting it to me as a Christmas Present...she had her own experience with this (I never knew women did this too)😊

 

Will ask the clinic for a recommendation. They said they were gonna recommend me a voice coach as well (hopefully covered by insurance)

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We for sure notice changes in our selfs last, and it's because we see our selfs everyday, and see our bodies naked everyday, so we don't really see the changes. Till people keep pointing it out, our clothes don't fit, or we look at old pictures. 

 

The lady that dose my brows, and hair. I only see her about once a month, and last time I saw her. She looked at me, and was amazed how hormones have changed just not my body, but my face also. She was like everytime I see you. You are looking more and more feminine. My boss at my other job has also been saying that a lot also, and she sees me daily. Apprently I've been getting a butt. As she has been saying it for a few months now. I didn't believe her. Till I went to throw on a pair of jeans. Yea by butt has grown. 

 

In the end. We are the last to notice changes. If you really are experiencing chnages at one month. Congrats to you. I didn't notice small changes till about 3 months in. Since June I've seen the most rapid, and more physical changes at a rapid pace. 

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Hi there @swallow, congratulations on your one month HRT anniversary the other day! Like you, I was (and still am!) very tuned in to anything that might be related to taking it. I am happy to read about the little joys you are experiencing already! If you are interested, I posted about a week ago about my experiences so far on oral estradiol in another thread on the forums.

 

I joke to myself sometimes that one of the most obvious milestones in my transition is when my web browser cookies flagged me as female and reflected that in the ads I would see. 😇

 

Love,

~Audrey.

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On 11/30/2021 at 10:08 PM, swallow said:

Come Friday will be my First month on HRT!

Congrats on this milestone, @swallow  I remember how important that 1 month on HRT was for me too. You’re going to be experiencing so many more. This is a quite the magical time for you. It sounds like there’s a lot of very good things happening in your life as a result of the changes emotionally and physically. I am very happy for you.

 

My Best,

Susan R🌷

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And probably the most profound change:

 

Several studies have found that hormone therapy in transgender women causes the structure of the brain to change in the direction of female proportions.[308][309][310][311][312] In addition, studies have found that hormone therapy in transgender women causes performance in cognitive tasks, including visuospatial, verbal memory, and verbal fluency, to shift in a more female direction.[308][305]

 

(from Feminizing Hormone Therapy Wiki)

 

 

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You’ll know it’s kicking in when you start crying and laughing at the same time. We get so caught up in the physical but it’s so much more than that. I often wonder if or when our pheromones change. 

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7 hours ago, Erica Gabriel said:

I often wonder if or when our pheromones change. 

I wondered about this one too. I am quite sure that I smell different in general, and it is most noticeable if I have been sweating. I do not know much about how pheromones work, but it seems plausible that estrogen is working some magic that I cannot see. As I reflect on this drinking my coffee, I am struck by the contrast between feeling almost invisible to the world before, almost like a ghost, to now where the amount of eye contact I get tells me that I am most definitely visible. A presence, if you will. Many of these people looking are (cisgender) men. Are pheromones part of this? All that said, I am learning to be more comfortable with the idea of being seen as attractive, because for so many years, I constantly told myself that I was unattractive and acted as such.

 

Love,

~Audrey.

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40 minutes ago, Audrey said:

I wondered about this one too. I am quite sure that I smell different in general, and it is most noticeable if I have been sweating. I do not know much about how pheromones work, but it seems plausible that estrogen is working some magic that I cannot see. As I reflect on this drinking my coffee, I am struck by the contrast between feeling almost invisible to the world before, almost like a ghost, to now where the amount of eye contact I get tells me that I am most definitely visible. A presence, if you will. Many of these people looking are (cisgender) men. Are pheromones part of this? All that said, I am learning to be more comfortable with the idea of being seen as attractive, because for so many years, I constantly told myself that I was unattractive and acted as such.

 

Love,

~Audrey.

In her first book, She’s Not There, Jennifer Finney Boylan wrote that there was a day when she was at a bar with her friend, Russo, wearing just jeans and a t-shirt. No makeup or jewelry. She became aware that she had reached another unforeseen milestone in her transition when the waitress referred to her as “ma’am” (I’m just paraphrasing this from memory) despite having put little effort into lookin feminine.

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Swallow,

The advertising follows you wherever you go on the internet. Google for instance, and likely others, use deep packet technology and pretty much scan email and other correspondence for any potential information that can be used for marketing. The only way to end that is to dump your cookies frequently. Private industry collects more private information on us than any government would hope to collect. Databases are an amazing thing. If the average person realized how much private information is not private on the internet...Despite all of the proclamations of how much these companies say they protect our privacy, they usually bury their disclaimers in so many confusing notices or pop-ups that you never read the stuff. Some websites are great about truly not collecting cookies, but many do anyway, including Google. Despite Apple's proclamations about privacy, I suspect they do it to some extent as well.

 

Congratulations on the HRT. I hope you have a great time on the path. The question of brain changes has been debated in the past. Some research a while ago looked at the brain structures of transgender MTF in comparison brains and there was a consideration that we already had some defining characteristics in common with cisgender female brains. I will check some databases I have and see if I can pull some more information. It is very likely we will have some brain related changes as a result of changing hormonal teams so to speak. 

 

Boylan's book is a great read. I read that book and I saw so many similarities. It drove home some things I had not thought about over the years. There is another book that is interesting to read called It Never Goes Away by Anne Koch. That was another book that drove home the journey we face, as well as how, no matter what we do, we are who we are. I will have to take note of the smell thing when I get to that point. I am in my first month of HRT as well. I had a hankering for a salad the other night...nah, probably not the estradiol. This is going to be a fun journey. I had a cousin tell me that I should pray these feelings away. With that thought, the day is afoot!

Sincerely

Katie

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1 hour ago, Katie23 said:

I had a hankering for a salad the other night...nah, probably not the estradiol.

Heh heh.   I've developed a taste for White Claws and less IPAs these days.  

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On 12/1/2021 at 12:08 AM, swallow said:

Hi everyone!

 

Hope y'all are doing swell.

 

Come Friday will be my First month on HRT!🤗

 

I'm not sure if I feel very much different or see any changes.🤔

 

I think maybe a bit more fat on my bum?

 

But I dunno...it doesn't look terribly different...maybe I'm on Placebo?🤨

 

All I am worried about though is going to the doctor in Friday and them telling me I've gained weight.

 

I don't believe I have but I have been hungrier of late (although could be just that its getting kinda cold or I'm getting colder or something)🥶

 

Certainly in the nipple department, things look fairly similar. 🤫

 

Well, I guess I'll wait to see what the doctor says in 3 days.

 

I'm still getting 'misgendered' (I mean in a good way like seen as female) in public settings which I guess is good.

 

The rather stern no nonsense lady at the AAA clocked me as a 'Miss' as did a Gentleman in the self check out Aisle of the Supermarket recently who graciously let me go ahead of him bc he said I had my hands full ( 4 items bless him)☺️

 

And the male drivers still stop for me to let me go first now and again.

 

But I'm not sure how my 'Non Strangers' feel about me.

 

 

On Bras, I think the social media is also coming on to me bc I have started to get a slew of advertisements on my Facebook for Bras...

 

And not just Bras but Bras for small chested women AAA size, created by small chested women bless them.🤭

 

How ever did they know?

 

Anyway hoping this is all part of the normalcy of low dosage transition. No mood sings or hot flashes thank god!😅

 

Sorry I'm late to the party, Happy Anniversary!

 

It's amazing how all the ads suddenly change. Within a matter of hours after updating my profile on fb I was getting ads for Midol and "toys". It's like they were waiting to pounce as soon as they got the green light. I was feeling like slow down there buddy, I'm not ready for all that. Most of the adds I get now are for clothes and of course bras.

 

I was worried about weight gain being a problem since I was eating anything I could find for the first year. I had to remember that my body is not only trying to deposit fat in the right places but also burn it off in others. When people wold say something about how much I was eating I just told them my little fat moving forklifts need fuel. Now after two years my weight has only changes a couple pounds but clothes fit totally different. I tried on a pair of old jeans for fun and there was no way I could get them over my butt.

 

On the boob thing. A lot of people, including myself, got the ouchies. You'll think they're little itchy and sensitive until you catch one of the girls on the refrigerator door or in my case a wayward elbow from my supervisor. I wasn't out at work at the time and it almost dropped me to my knees.

 

My interactions with people is definitely a lot different.  Women tend to give a friendly smile when I pass them. Even with a mask on I can still see it. I smile back. Men are a lot more friendly and helpful. Holding doors (still getting used to that) and letting me go ahead of them in line.

 

IMHO you're progressing pretty good for being a little over a month in.

 

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Hi,

 

So many wonderful responses and experiences shared. Many thanks everyone!

 

I've been SOOOOOO busy I have not had time to do anything but work since my last post.

 

Wishing everyone SEASONS GREETINGS and HAPPY NEW YEAR!

 

Katie 23 -great to find a fellow traveller at the same stage of the journey as myself. 😊

 

and everyone thanks for the book recommendations.

 

I have not had much time to notice changes last couple of weeks but I caught up with an old producer friend of mine (from school days) and his new (well not that new I've just never met her) wife.😬

 

He said he noticed I look different so I quibbed I was getting older perhaps.🤭

 

I think he's trying to make sense of it (having botched one of our friend's coming out (as Bisexual) some time back. He gave me a strange book for Xmas, it's (one of) his favorite artist, a Pseudo-Hermaphrodite.🤔

 

but in any case, I have been feeling at times slightly itchy and at times slighty achy around my nipples (The left one feels a little harder than usual). I'm not sure if this is part of the course of changes.

 

Unfortunately because of work, I've kept my voice for convenience till the gig ends next month.

 

Today I went to get some food from a take out. I ordered my food and went back to the car where my son was waiting. I notice the man inside was staring out at me.🙄

 

He did not react when I was in the store when I was ordering the food but as soon as I left, it was all eyes on me.

 

I guess one has to get use to being somewhat of a curiosity for people.😏

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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18 minutes ago, swallow said:

I guess one has to get use to being somewhat of a curiosity for people.😏

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yea my female friends call me their Amazon. Being 6ft tall, and after a year of hormones, and leaving heavy manual labor. I don't quite look like a former linebacker, but im still big. The funny thing is I visually, and vocally pass even up close. Apparently people aren't use to seeing a confident 6ft woman, so I understand when people are curious about you. 

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I see big and tall women everywhere...(maybe its my hood)🤔

 

I was a bit self conscious when shopping for shoes but noticed other women perusing the same aisle (The size 10s)

 

Nobody pays me mind until I open my mouth and bust the image.

 

But people seem nice enough even so, like today at the self check out of the supermarket, I get 'Hon' all the time because I generally think I look kinda lost and in need of some kind of help....and I'm not even at old age yet.😬

 

At this point I'm more concern about my aging brain than a change of brain structure....took me a while to remember my password yesterday and I still forgot it again today.


At work I'm determined to keep up with the other (VERY HIGHLY ORGANIZED SUPER MULTITASKING) ladies in the team...but my brain is such a mush sometimes.😧

 

I read somewhere that being on hormones may effect brain function/memory...goodness.😶

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hey

So sorry very late to the party.

But I'm on my 4yr on HRT.

I start notice change by the 6 month.

However, I am bald and need to wear a wigs (and not the expensive one either) which triggers my Dysphoria like really bad, 

However, i hardly wear make -up any more cause my face and body look very Fm

Good Luck

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I guess I am lucky in a way. I am not sure my testosterone has been working all that well prior to HRT starting a month ago. I had already noticed being softer, and a bit more emotional at time (tears during a tear jerker type stuff). I was shocked when I found out my T level was normal. I think I may have some androgen insensitivity though. Anyway, my skin has responded rapidly. I am really happy with the results. Now some of it may be the low carb/intermittent fasting that I am doing as well, but between everything including the IPL device, my legs are really feeling great. The change in my skin texture is also very welcome. I could no be happier with the progress.

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hi,

 

I can't say I feel very different...itch and like soreness around nipples aside🥴

 

OTOH I feel like I have become more acutely aware of women scoping me out.🤔

 

Just notice the secretive and not so secretive glances so much more.

 

The other day I went to drop off cookies to my manager. On the way back into my apartment, I had to walk by a woman waiting on her dog by the curb.

 

As I walked toward the entrance, I caught the reflection from the glass on the door of her literally boring into my back with her yes from behind. She stared for a good few minutes as I then struggled to get the door open as I usually do.🧐

 

It go me wondering if I had some sort of wardrobe malfunction perhaps...🙄

 

Next day I got into my leggings (for the first time in a while)

 

I noticed I filled it out much better.🤗

 

Today as I walked to the store for a quick raid, the sun was behind me and I noticed from my shadow I was jiggling a little on the thighs when walking.

 

I'm not sure about touch because I've always been ultra sensitive to touch. My skin has always been hairless and smooth.

 

But I do have an increase yearning to be touched by someone except it's only made me feel even more wishful that my partner was still around.

 

It could be my imagination but I think I'm also more acutely aware of my scent? Been having to sleep on my couch because my daughter is back from college (now remote bc of covid up tick) and on remote learning at home. Its been rather cold so I use my thin top Indian cotton shirt to cover gaps in the comforter.

 

I've always complained about our communal laundry and how I never felt my laundry smelt clean enough but I've been noticing a mild sweet scent from my cotton shirt.☺️

 

Its hard to tell because I generally don't smell much in the armpits although oddly I tend to perspire there when wearing tank tops and driving only.🤔

 

I've also felt a lot colder than I normally do this winter but then some others have also complained about the temperature.

 

It's too early to tell if these are signs of changes or just in my head...?

 

 

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21 hours ago, swallow said:

hi,

 

I can't say I feel very different...itch and like soreness around nipples aside🥴

 

OTOH I feel like I have become more acutely aware of women scoping me out.🤔

 

Just notice the secretive and not so secretive glances so much more.

 

The other day I went to drop off cookies to my manager. On the way back into my apartment, I had to walk by a woman waiting on her dog by the curb.

 

As I walked toward the entrance, I caught the reflection from the glass on the door of her literally boring into my back with her yes from behind. She stared for a good few minutes as I then struggled to get the door open as I usually do.🧐

 

It go me wondering if I had some sort of wardrobe malfunction perhaps...🙄

 

Next day I got into my leggings (for the first time in a while)

 

I noticed I filled it out much better.🤗

 

Today as I walked to the store for a quick raid, the sun was behind me and I noticed from my shadow I was jiggling a little on the thighs when walking.

 

I'm not sure about touch because I've always been ultra sensitive to touch. My skin has always been hairless and smooth.

 

But I do have an increase yearning to be touched by someone except it's only made me feel even more wishful that my partner was still around.

 

It could be my imagination but I think I'm also more acutely aware of my scent? Been having to sleep on my couch because my daughter is back from college (now remote bc of covid up tick) and on remote learning at home. Its been rather cold so I use my thin top Indian cotton shirt to cover gaps in the comforter.

 

I've always complained about our communal laundry and how I never felt my laundry smelt clean enough but I've been noticing a mild sweet scent from my cotton shirt.☺️

 

Its hard to tell because I generally don't smell much in the armpits although oddly I tend to perspire there when wearing tank tops and driving only.🤔

 

I've also felt a lot colder than I normally do this winter but then some others have also complained about the temperature.

 

It's too early to tell if these are signs of changes or just in my head...?

 

 

Woman will notice everything about you. From top to bottom, and good or bad. I swear they notice a lot more then men do. I've actually had woman jealous of my breast. Heck my boss is, and she's like family to me. 

 

A few months ago. I was walking over the the grocery store to get lunch. As I was walking. There is a wall of glass on my right. I check out my reflection as I walk, and noticed my butt was a lot more round then it ever was before. 

 

As the for cold. Yea it was -30 with a wind chill here today. I miss being my own furnace. 

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Hi Lauren,

 

I check myself in every possible reflection all the time!

 

At first I felt I was being vain but then I realise it was also an issue with insecurity that something may not be on point with my clothing. 🙄

 

...which is prob why like a good spy from a John le Carre Novel, I caught sight of that woman giving me the twice over.🕵️‍♀️

 

I thought it could be my attire but I was wearing an unseasonal loose cotton paperbag waist trouser (It was laundry day...the cold was zipping right thru them)🥶

 

Small price to pay for no issues with VPL I suppose(which I normally have)

 

I've yet to get myself sorted with my leggings. I usually wear one of those black high waist control panties. I try to bunch it up a bit at the back to avoid the VPL but inevitably it prefers to slip back down.🤨

 

Still not as bad when I was wearing them and did not notice the marks on the knees.🤔

 

I like to get on my knees to write at my low Japanese table...but once I turned up to turn some work in with marks on my leggings and some of the crew asked me if I enjoy working on my knees which I replied "of course yes, I'm on my hands and knees all the time"...until later someone explained there was another connotation to such a question, which explain the mirth and merriment earlier (clearly at my expense).😳

 

So I have adjusted that behaviour accordingly.😌

 

This week, I feel as if (again could be wishful thinking) my eye lashes are longer than before.🤗

 

I fluttered them in the mirror and they look rather enticing.

 

I have to take note and be careful with my disposition lest I send out the wrong signals (or maybe the right ones)🤭

 

If they keep growing out, I won't have need to experiment on those magnetic falsies I bought. The amount of time it took to wash out the liner that came with it that ended in one eye...🥴

 

 

 

 

 

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      Tuesday night.  They had a quick supper together at a fast food place.  Bob went off to teach karate and Taylor locked herself inside her apartment and worked on her hiring plan.   First the web site problem.  The two guys who ran it were self-taught and knew little.  It currently had three pages, the Home page, the About page and the Contact page,  She asked them to work with Karen in terms of redesigning it and she needed three designs to show Gibbs tomorrow.  The problem was three fold: the two guys and Karen.  Millville was a small town and all three were relatives of members of the Board.  Millville, Millvale. She was doing it.  People here called it either way, sometimes in the space of a few seconds.  She thought it was Millville.  All three had complained about the work, because the two boys regarded it as done and untouchable, even though they actually had not worked on it at all for months.  Like a number of people, they showed up and collected generous pay checks and did nothing.  She had looked at a number of websites and she had been told the company wanted one both internal and external customers could log into.  Her chief difficulty at the moment there was that there was very little content.  She decided to send the three complainers out tomorrow to take numerous pictures of the thirty acres  Or was it forty?  No one seemed to care. She cared, because she needed to get it right.  She debated outsourcing the website to a company, but first she needed something to outsource, and before then she needed to decide whether to keep these people.  She didn't need to mess with them.  So she decided to recommend they hire an experienced website developer with management skills. Would such a person come to Millville?  The schools were good, because the company had poured money into them, and the streets were well paved.  The company had bought all the abandoned houses and maintained them, hoping someday they would be filled again. Millville was crime-free.  People did not lock their doors. Neighborly. Very conservative, but in a good way.  Hard working, ethical, honest. Maybe the Chinese money was corrupting the town?  Not sure.  So she thought they would hire someone, even if it were a remote position.  She would rather have them here, but she would take what she would get.  That would move the website out of her hair. Secondly, she needed an effective presenter.  She could not do all these presentations herself.  She had natural talent but a lot could be passed on. She needed another Mary and another Brenda, or their understudies, effective hardworking people.   Bob. Was he okay with this?  He said she was Management.  Was that a problem?  And she was now earning a ridiculous salary, which she put down to company dysfunction more than anything she had done.  Was that a problem? She was not sure.  He was highly competitive and he had that male ego.  She did not.  A feeling of guilt rose.   Her therapist had brought up her feelings of guilt about not making Dad's expectations, never being the man Dad wanted her to be.  She never could, and this physical evidence backed that up.  What would the doctor say?  She thought about it, and that her therapist said she needed to find a sexual assault survivor's group more than a transgender group right now. Was there one here?  She thought about serving in a women's shelter.  There was one here, oddly enough connected to the church they had visited.  That F on her drivers' license would help.  She was waiting until after she talked to the doctor again to move on that stuff.   Was Bob really buying 160 acres near the old air strip on speculation?  Much of the land around Millville had been for sale for a long time.  That land was being offered at a dollar an acre, the owners having inherited it and now living out of state. Common knowledge.  They would take the first offer, and it had been for sale since the airstrip closed twenty years ago. Airstrip.  That would help.  Not tonight. Focus, girl, she told herself, and read over her notes to do so, which were making less sense the further down she went. It was eleven, and she gave up and went to bed.
    • violet r
      .my name is violet. I'm new here and thus is my first try at forums. I'm 45 and just recently having came to terms of who I really am. Thought a lot of self discovery since I stopped drinking. Drinking was my coping mechanism to hide a lot of thing. There were plenty of signs though the years. As I look back. That i hid inside. Now really sure what made all of this bubble to the surface at this time in my life.  Mabye it was waiting for me to be open minded and ready to accept that I am trans. I have a very unhealthy environment at home that is anti trans. I really don't know what else to say but hi. I hope everyone here will be accepting of me and me work through my journey of finding the real me. I know that since I accepted it I have been much happier than I can remember. Being to real me makes me happy. I hate having to hide this all the the time at home. I work retail management and have no idea if I could even stay in this business if I am to fully come out. Wow that was scary saying all that. It's a first for me
    • Ivy
      It is a lifesaver for a lot of us.
    • Abigail Genevieve
      Thanks.  What I do as a man is what a woman would do if she were a man.  There is just something feminine about the way I act as a man.  It's not that being a woman is actually better, or something to aspire to, but it is just that I am one, while not being one.   If beating my head bloody to get rid off this stupid dysphoria would fix it I would find the nearest wall, but I know that if I did that, when I woke up, it would still be there.   If I did not have this struggle I would be someone else and I would be less of a person than I am.  They say an oak tree growing in an open field is far stronger than one in a forest.  The storms come and go and I stand.   This forum is the first time I have interacted with other people struggling with the same struggle and parallel struggles. It helps.
    • Ashley0616
      I'm sorry! :( Hopefully something better will come up
    • Ashley0616
      Thank you! Did great with the kids
    • Sally Stone
      That's me too, Mae.  I don't think it's me as much as it is the camera (that's my story anyway).  Cameras hate me.  I never met one that liked me.  I often wish I was photogenic; sadly, not so much.   However, you look terrific in that selfie! 
    • Sally Stone
      April, I'm so glad things went well when you came out to your spouse.  So often, things can go sideways.  It's a hurdle we all have to jump at some point.
    • violet r
      I totally understand what you just said. I can relate to this very well. I have a lot.of similar feelings.
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