Trump Pledges Federal Ban On Trans Women In Sports If Re-Elected

[Phoenix]

48 minutes ago, Ticket For Epic said:

That's the biggest problem with politicians, those that deserve office don't want it and those that are undeserving do.

Incredibly, alarmingly, and depressingly true.

 

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Damnit!  You know, I had REALLY gotten used to that cishet white male privilege. 

I always laugh and shake my head about the whole privilege thing. Since I’m transitioning… way beyond when I wanted to, I’ve lived 42 years of my life as a “white male.”

 

And now here I am transitioning at 42/43. If I had so much privilege as a white male… why would I willingly give it up?

 

The only “privilege” I saw as a white male was the “privilege” to be called every vile name in the book just because of the color of my skin.

 

And I kid you not, the very day I finally came out and began my transition journey, some of those sand voices immediately began calling me “brave” and wishing me luck. Yo which I could only respond with a rather unladylike response…(think the 13 Ukrainians’ response to the Russian warship).

 

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I think the biggest problem we have is that people don't understand or far too often, don't care to understand, that this is not a choice.  They seem to get that if we could snap our fingers and become the opposite sex we would but what they don't seem to get is that if we could snap our fingers and become comfortable with our gender assigned at birth,  WE'D DO THAT TOO!  But we can't, so we transition as an act of self preservation.

I wouldn’t. I’d take that first option every day and twice on Sundays. Perhaps it’s a result of my life as it’s been, but given a wish from a genie, I’d go cisgender female… not so much the other way.

[Phoenix]

That should be “same” voices, not “sand.”

[Phoenix]

29 minutes ago, Lenneth said:

It’s not even this.  I hate to say this, but legitimate voting is dead.  People just don’t realize it.  

Long dead.

 

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I will still vote until I die,

After the debacle that was 2020, so will I.

 

But it’ll never be for anyone with a “D” by their name.

 

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but gerrymandering, voter suppression, and court packing have rendered the system almost moot.  

 

The court packing is being considered/done by the dems because they don’t like who Trump nominated.

 

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“The things they had in there were crazy. They had things, levels of voting that if you’d ever agreed to it, you’d never have a Republican elected in this country again.”

Oh I don’t know… I think enough shady stuff went on during that election that both sides have dirty hands. 
 

But the dirtiest hands got the presidency. I’m not a “steal” conspiracy theorist… but it was shady enough that Brandon should have led the charge to verify each and every vote was legitimate.

 

He had one chance to quell all the conspiracy nonsense for good. But he chose to ignore it while he and the cackling moron were busy celebrating their “victory.”

[Phoenix]

17 minutes ago, Jandi said:

It was pretty botched up.  However it was following through on a deal the previous administration had made.

A previous administration once removed. They guaranteed a departure during Obama’s term.

[Lenneth]

3 minutes ago, Phoenix said:

Then why did he, on camera, and without skipping a beat, say on National TV that Caitlin Jenner could use whatever restroom she wanted in Trump Tower?

 

If he’s such a bigot, why does he have support from every race, orientation and gender identity?

 

What is it that they know that you don’t? Or vice versa?

What he says doesn’t interest me as much as what he does.  He plays the PR game.  Of course he will back Caitlin Jenner.  She supports him and it’s a great thing to bring up in the face of the backlash for decisions like this.  It nets him a shield of sorts against criticism because he made that one statement in a high profile environment about a high profile, public figure.

 

He has support from so many people because there are billions of people on the planet and an estimated 350-something million people in the U.S.  Statistically he would always find support from someone from every imaginable group.  The question we should ask is, what percentage of those sub-groups support him.  A gay man can support him and the assertion he has support from the gay community is accurate.  But if 50 million gay men don’t, he’s not representing them because he sure didn’t win election with that demographic’s political weight.

 

Look at the legislation he championed.  Steven Miller was hard core trying to eject minorities.  His first travel ban was rejected because it was so transparent.  He called African countries “s*** holes” with no evidence to support that statement and when many African countries are actually quite developed and wonderful societies with educated, civically aware people.

 

Miller also drafted the policy for essentially legal kidnapping of children from immigrants trying to cross the border.  And before anyone brings it up, Biden’s not getting a pass here because he could have stamped that out and didn’t.  Different discussion.  Go ahead and argue it was a deterrent for illegal immigration.  It’s also inhumane, ineffective, cruel, and fiscally irresponsible.  Even if the “camps” these separated children were being kept in were actually being run with a modicum of sanitary and educational standards, that alone is a new outlet for federal funds in a time the Republicans, with the walking tanning bed’s backing, were arguing vehemently about the budget and wasteful spending.  Them talking about budget deficits was a joke to begin with after there tax plan was pushed though.  The walking orange peel literally ran away from New York to Florida to escape the tax situation his own plan created!

 

Back on topic though, the camps these minority children were kept in were mostly atrocious.  No education, little more than sheets to use on cement floors to sleep on, no toothpaste, disgusting bathroom facilities, and lack of access to hygiene products both for bathing and feminine biological needs.

 

This man couldn’t tell the difference between a Mexican and a Honduran.  He mocks disabled people.  He insulted John McCain’s service record because he deigned to disagree with someone who dodged service altogether.  I disagree with McCain on virtually everything he stood for, but there is no disputing the man was a hero.

 

What don’t I know that they do?  More than I could begin to comprehend.  There is no way I will ever be privy to the information they had, have, and will gain in the coming days.  I do know what he said and did.  This is also my personal opinion based on my observations, experiences, discussions, reading material, and social exposure.  This is how I see this spoiled narcissist.  At every juncture he consistently takes the route that benefits himself or harms anyone not a cis, white, heterosexual, wealthy, white man.

[Lenneth]

22 minutes ago, Phoenix said:

But the dirtiest hands got the presidency. I’m not a “steal” conspiracy theorist… but it was shady enough that Brandon should have led the charge to verify each and every vote was legitimate.

No argument there.  Nobody is clean.  But trying to invalidate the results highlights this “alpha male’s” fragile ego.  He couldn’t accept loss.  And the whole deal with the Arizona recount?  That was going on almost 3 quarters of a year after the actual election.  And nothing changed.  Then other stated started adopting that model just to argue when Republicans lose.  If they lose, Democrats rigged the election.  It’s the cry of their people now.  I accept, without question, Democrats are shady.  I could dump on Pelosi for hours.  I think she needs a James Bond style ejection chair.  But I don’t believe they are tearing down the walls of free and fair elections while building an autocracy or oligarchy in their place.

[Carolyn Marie]

OK, folks, this thread has started to go off the rails.  It began as a report on what the former President said about trans women in sports.  Lets not get into a lengthy discussion about every aspect of his time in office.  That would require dozens of pages and won't get us anywhere.  Please stick to the topic, or it will be locked.

 

Carolyn Marie

[Lenneth]

9 minutes ago, Carolyn Marie said:

OK, folks, this thread has started to go off the rails.  It began as a report on what the former President said about trans women in sports.  Lets not get into a lengthy discussion about every aspect of his time in office.  That would require dozens of pages and won't get us anywhere.  Please stick to the topic, or it will be locked.

 

Carolyn Marie

 

Apologies.

[Phoenix]

7 hours ago, Lenneth said:

What he says doesn’t interest me as much as what he does.  He plays the PR game.  Of course he will back Caitlin Jenner.  She supports him and it’s a great thing to bring up in the face of the backlash for decisions like this.  It nets him a shield of sorts against criticism because he made that one statement in a high profile environment about a high profile, public figure.

 

He has support from so many people because there are billions of people on the planet and an estimated 350-something million people in the U.S.  Statistically he would always find support from someone from every imaginable group.  The question we should ask is, what percentage of those sub-groups support him.  A gay man can support him and the assertion he has support from the gay community is accurate.  But if 50 million gay men don’t, he’s not representing them because he sure didn’t win election with that demographic’s political weight.

 

Look at the legislation he championed.  Steven Miller was hard core trying to eject minorities.  His first travel ban was rejected because it was so transparent.  He called African countries “s*** holes” with no evidence to support that statement and when many African countries are actually quite developed and wonderful societies with educated, civically aware people.

 

Miller also drafted the policy for essentially legal kidnapping of children from immigrants trying to cross the border.  And before anyone brings it up, Biden’s not getting a pass here because he could have stamped that out and didn’t.  Different discussion.  Go ahead and argue it was a deterrent for illegal immigration.  It’s also inhumane, ineffective, cruel, and fiscally irresponsible.  Even if the “camps” these separated children were being kept in were actually being run with a modicum of sanitary and educational standards, that alone is a new outlet for federal funds in a time the Republicans, with the walking tanning bed’s backing, were arguing vehemently about the budget and wasteful spending.  Them talking about budget deficits was a joke to begin with after there tax plan was pushed though.  The walking orange peel literally ran away from New York to Florida to escape the tax situation his own plan created!

 

Back on topic though, the camps these minority children were kept in were mostly atrocious.  No education, little more than sheets to use on cement floors to sleep on, no toothpaste, disgusting bathroom facilities, and lack of access to hygiene products both for bathing and feminine biological needs.

 

This man couldn’t tell the difference between a Mexican and a Honduran.  He mocks disabled people.  He insulted John McCain’s service record because he deigned to disagree with someone who dodged service altogether.  I disagree with McCain on virtually everything he stood for, but there is no disputing the man was a hero.

 

What don’t I know that they do?  More than I could begin to comprehend.  There is no way I will ever be privy to the information they had, have, and will gain in the coming days.  I do know what he said and did.  This is also my personal opinion based on my observations, experiences, discussions, reading material, and social exposure.  This is how I see this spoiled narcissist.  At every juncture he consistently takes the route that benefits himself or harms anyone not a cis, white, heterosexual, wealthy, white man.