School Litterboxes

[awkward-yet-sweet]

So apparently, this is a rumor and has been around for a while.  I don't consider CNN to be a great source of information, but this stuff even has its own Wikipedia page 😆

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/03/politics/scott-jennings-minnesota-schools-cat-litter-box/index.html

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Litter_boxes_in_schools

 

Surely in this age where everybody has a phone in their pocket with a camera, this would have been put to rest by now.  All it would take is one student snapping a photo of a giant litterbox in a bathroom to prove it.  Lacking a picture of something so astonishing, I can't fathom the idea that anybody actually believes this stuff.  So weird!  Is the litterbox thing supposed to be some kind of metaphor for trans people? 

 

[awkward-yet-sweet]

Wow.  Apparently in Tennessee too.  Next thing you know, we'll convince people that "gullible" isn't in the dictionary.🙄

 

https://www.newschannel5.com/news/tennessee-school-officials-no-we-did-not-give-litter-boxes-to-students-identifying-as-furries

 

[Marcie Jensen]

Well, this just proves the saying of that great southern philosopher Billy CUrrington was right when he sang, "God is great; beer is good and people are crazy."

[VickySGV]

51 minutes ago, awkward-yet-sweet said:

Is the litterbox thing supposed to be some kind of metaphor for trans people? 

 

 

It is a Trope about our "identifying as a gender other than which we were born".   The have taken our Trans language of "I identify as" or "My pronouns are" and corrupted it to look ridiculous.  Here on the Forums we have had stories of this type for the years I have been here.  The conflation of the Furries (I do know a few) and the Dysmorphia victims who do have problems with their looks other than gender  (serious things such as Anorexia / Bulimia, surgery compulsions for multiple cosmetic surgeries by Cis People who cannot accept their own bodies as they are etc.)  Please note that this Furry misinformation occurs most often from states that are Anti-Trans.

[Heather Nicole]

Yea, if there's one thing QAnon has conclusively proven, it's that the alt-right will believe and parrot literally anything, no matter now insane it is to believe, as long as it involves "libs bad".

 

3 hours ago, VickySGV said:

It is a Trope about our "identifying as a gender other than which we were born".   The have taken our Trans language of "I identify as" or "My pronouns are" and corrupted it to look ridiculous.

 

Yes, it's the same old "one and only one joke" that transphobes have, aka "the attack helicopter joke". It comes in different colors, but it's always the same one and only tired old joke from them.

 

[awkward-yet-sweet]

Hmm.... hadn't heard the "attack helicopter" thing and had to look it up.  Learn something new every day.  I guess we stay blissfully isolated from most of this drama where I live. 

 

One thing I've noticed is that most of these memes, rumors, etc. rely on hyperbole.  QAnon, for example.  There's a ton of trafficking, especially to the elite.  Can't deny that, as one of my partners was a victim....but how much it connects to politics or Satanic cults is dubious.  To me, much of the "Left" is pretty obnoxious.  The "Right" also.  And both sides spend the majority of the time blasting away at each other's straw men. 

 

How much of this actually exists on the ground where normal people live?  Like, I'm pretty sure nobody is discussing litterboxes in my county's schools, or complaining about one agenda or the other.  Don't we have more mundane problems?  And IIRC, there was a hurricane a week ago that wiped out $50 billion worth of infrastructure in a nation that already had food, fuel, electricity, and inflation problems? 

[Ivy]

13 hours ago, awkward-yet-sweet said:

Is the litterbox thing supposed to be some kind of metaphor for trans people? 

Yeah, of course it is.  But then, these people will believe anything about us other than we're just people trying to live our lives.

[Ivy]

I was surprised there was a Wikipedia page… but then, why not?

[Russ Fenrisson]

You know, when I first saw and read about this, Cat Pride came to mind. Apparently, and correct me if I'm wrong, there was a movement started in the UK for people who collectively identified as cats, calling it Cat Pride. When someone first told me about it, I face-palmed. Not only will trans and gender non-conforming individuals continue to be a joke because of movements like this, but Furries as well. It's tiring, but it does provide me with a good laugh. Those who know better will continue to make bizarre stories like this to heckle those who already have enough to worry about.

 

I think this story is definitely false. Looks like a post you might randomly find on 4chan or reddit.

[VickySGV]

1 hour ago, Russ Fenrisson said:

I think this story is definitely false.

 

I go to a Karaoke Night Club for the Queer community every few months where Furries are welcome to join in as well.  I have had to help get some zippers unstuck for a couple of them in "whichever" restrooms there more than once, and the person was NOT demanding a Littler Box or puppy training pad to pee on.  My friend who was doing the "hosting" for the Karaoke had a Fox Furry put a microphone inside its mask head, and it slipped inside out of his paw, retrieving the mic was difficult for Furry and Host.  Not one single request for a Litter Box ever. 

[awkward-yet-sweet]

@Russ Fenrisson I get a bit of a laugh out of it too....what else can we do with something this ridiculous?  In the unlikely event that I run into somebody who uses the litterbox story as an excuse to heckle me, I'm tempted to tell them that I'm actually a little feral fox, and so any random location acceptable for me.  Then proceed to relieve myself on their shoes.  😆 

 

 

[Marcie Jensen]

9 hours ago, awkward-yet-sweet said:

@Russ Fenrisson I get a bit of a laugh out of it too....what else can we do with something this ridiculous?  In the unlikely event that I run into somebody who uses the litterbox story as an excuse to heckle me, I'm tempted to tell them that I'm actually a little feral fox, and so any random location acceptable for me.  Then proceed to relieve myself on their shoes.  😆 

I love this! It reminds me of a joke I saw years ago on the old Jeff Foxworthy show. They were doing Redneck definitions, and the word "European" came up. The scene switched to two good ol' boys standing behind some bushes and the sound of water running. The one looks over at the other and says, "Hey Bubba, quit that! Yer a-peein' on mah shoes!" 

I think I have relatives in Georgia who are like that...

[Russ Fenrisson]

@VickySGVSounds like a pretty funny situation. I've never been to a Furry event before but they look like fun. I've met a few Furries in person in the past and they're really cool, creative people.

 

@awkward-yet-sweetHaha! That's a funny one! 

 

@Marcie JensenThat sounds like a funny sketch. I've always been a fan of puns.

[VickySGV]

Just read in an LGBTQ Nation article where, yes. the thing about Furries is a characterization of Trans identities.  A political candidate in Colorado is the main shoot from the mouth person in that fracas.  She has over 30 state school districts and 3 organization of school administrators and superintendants telling her to go chase a cat, preferably a wild cat who will turn and chase her. 

[awkward-yet-sweet]

11 hours ago, Marcie Jensen said:

I love this! It reminds me of a joke I saw years ago on the old Jeff Foxworthy show. They were doing Redneck definitions, and the word "European" came up. The scene switched to two good ol' boys standing behind some bushes and the sound of water running. The one looks over at the other and says, "Hey Bubba, quit that! Yer a-peein' on mah shoes!" 

I think I have relatives in Georgia who are like that...

I've always loved the Blue Collar comedy bunch.  One that cracks me up every time is "If you think Genitalia is an Italian airline....you might be a redneck." 

[Marcie Jensen]

12 hours ago, awkward-yet-sweet said:

I've always loved the Blue Collar comedy bunch.  One that cracks me up every time is "If you think Genitalia is an Italian airline....you might be a redneck." 

What it isn't?  ROFL!!

[Russ Fenrisson]

@VickySGVThat's the first I've heard of that. I have seen furries who identify as trans before, but I never thought they would be considered as part of the umbrella of the trans-community. Interesting.

[Ivy]

33 minutes ago, Russ Fenrisson said:

I have seen furries who identify as trans before, but I never thought they would be considered as part of the umbrella of the trans-community.

It's a straw man thing.  Transphobes jump on the most outlandish thing they can find, and paint us all with it.  

I doubt that cis folks can understand what being trans is like.  So since we're not like them, they assume we're insane, and likely dangerous.

 

"Much Madness is divinest Sense -

To a discerning Eye -

Much Sense - the starkest Madness -

’Tis the Majority

In this, as all, prevail -

Assent - and you are sane -

Demur - you’re straightway dangerous -

And handled with a Chain -"

 

Emily Dickinson

[Russ Fenrisson]

@IvyWhat a poignant poem; it perfectly describes society at its core. Emily Dickinson was always good at uncovering philosophical truths. She's one of my favorite poets.

 

It pains me to think that, regardless. If people would sit down and talk with a person unlike them and hear them out, maybe things would be different. Yet, people refuse to listen unless said person conforms. It's a scary thought process.

[Heather Nicole]

On 10/6/2022 at 8:43 AM, Marcie Jensen said:

I love this! It reminds me of a joke I saw years ago on the old Jeff Foxworthy show. They were doing Redneck definitions, and the word "European" came up. The scene switched to two good ol' boys standing behind some bushes and the sound of water running. The one looks over at the other and says, "Hey Bubba, quit that! Yer a-peein' on mah shoes!" 

 

That is good, it actually kind of takes me back a bit, too...

 

According to family lore, when I was about 4 or so, my grandfather asked me if I was European. My response? Upset: "I'm not peeing!!" 🤣

 

Can't say I remember the incident, but I do remember the "european" pun being a bit of a running joke in the family when I was younger. 😁

[Charlize]

There is nothing like scatology to bring out the best jokes!  Thanks for the flow of running jokes.   Now to change my panties.

 

Hugs,

 

Charlize

[Marcie Jensen]

18 hours ago, Ivy said:

I doubt that cis folks can understand what being trans is like.  So since we're not like them, they assume we're insane, and likely dangerous.

Truer words were never spoken.

[Aggie1]

18 hours ago, Ivy said:

Much Madness is divinest Sense -

To a discerning Eye -

Much Sense - the starkest Madness -

’Tis the Majority

In this, as all, prevail -

Assent - and you are sane -

Demur - you’re straightway dangerous -

And handled with a Chain -"

 

Emily Dickinson

Truer words…

[Aggie1]

14 hours ago, Heather Nicole said:

 

That is good, it actually kind of takes me back a bit, too...

 

According to family lore, when I was about 4 or so, my grandfather asked me if I was European. My response? Upset: "I'm not peeing!!" 🤣

 

Can't say I remember the incident, but I do remember the "european" pun being a bit of a running joke in the family when I was younger. 😁

That’s hilarious! Kids say the darnedest things!

[VickySGV]

Reuters does a fact check here,  they are a reliable news agency

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-furries-school/fact-check-no-evidence-that-u-s-schoolchildren-are-self-identifying-as-animals-and-disrupting-classrooms-idUSL1N2YN1O2