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Carolyn Marie

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This makes me feel sick. I can only imagine the harm this political ploy will cause for young trans folks.  Parents , their doctors and the young people themselves should be left alone to make their own decision.  Keeping government out of peoples lives is simply good conservative politics.

 

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Did I mention here how it felt driving into Pennsylvania and seeing several billboards with anti-trans messages welcoming me back 'home'?

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Dear Lord. Sick doesn't begin to cover it. This is just plain wrong. Any time that children are being exploited or targeted for political gain is something that SHOULD NOT BE TOLERATED!!! For any reason.  Or coming from any point of view. As @Charlizepoints out, this is something between parents, their children and their doctors.  No one else--teachers, politicians, pastors, et al--should just back off.

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24 minutes ago, Marcie Jensen said:

As @Charlizepoints out, this is something between parents, their children and their doctors.  No one else--teachers, politicians, pastors, et al--should just back off.

I mean, yeah.   Why is this even a political thing to start with?

 

3 hours ago, RhondaS said:

Did I mention here how it felt driving into Pennsylvania and seeing several billboards with anti-trans messages welcoming me back 'home'?

It is very discouraging.  And depressing.  

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3 minutes ago, Katie23 said:

I do not believe we are transitioning, but rather being emancipated from our male or female form to one that is conducive to who we are.

I agree.  It didn't take long to realize my "cross-dressing" experiment was really my liberation.  There was no "crossing" involved.

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This IS sickening 😠 and watching Stephen Miller lead the charge is reminiscent of Joseph Goebbels propaganda campaign against the Jews (and you know who HIS boss was!).  

 

I can only hope and pray this is a losing cause for him, those like him, and their Party.

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My new family 18 year old who has been out as Trans for three years has already voted in this election.  She is not the only Trans younger adult to be tipping things their way and soon.  That is my hope for the future.  My grandchild knows about human health issues and had been taught about the wonderful diversity of human beings, since her mother was mixed ethnic heritage as well.  That is totally the antidote to this poison happening, and the befuddled politicians need to get their heads together.

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8 hours ago, Katie23 said:

I do not believe we are transitioning, but rather being emancipated from our male or female form to one that is conducive to who we are.

 

I feel the same way. I now use the term "transgender" for myself only because others can more easily relate to it. I'm gender dysphoric - always have been, always will be. How I choose to deal with that fact is where "transgender" may come into play. But there have been times when I needed to live in the male role, and I would suggest that I wasn't being transgender then.

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10 hours ago, VickySGV said:

My new family 18 year old who has been out as Trans for three years has already voted in this election.  She is not the only Trans younger adult to be tipping things their way and soon.  

  It's hard to take a macro view or even an optimistic view, but it's a point that's been raised that in the long term, these political forces will eventually be their own ruin. Kids today are more socially sophisticated than we ever were. Even my friends who are "Millenials". Like the term "microagression": here was a term that finally labeled a form of covert violence that we had all just came to accept was people were just a$#holes, but at least in "Socialist" circles, also was a sigifier of a larger systemic problem....that these behaviors could be unlearned once exposed. At my age, I trust my years of experience but also respect the younger generations acuity. 

They are not easily fooled. 

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