A petition drive in Canada… to "extend the right of asylum" to transgender people…

[Ivy]

https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-4268

 

 

Of course I hope it won't come to this, but lately I'm wondering.

As an American (US-type) I'm kinda ashamed that this is even a thing.

 

[KathyLauren]

Thank you for posting that, @Ivy.  I just signed.  The situation in the US is becoming dire. so this has been on my mind for a while.  We have unofficially welcomed asylum seekers from "western democracies that have historically been considered safe" in the past, so there is no reason not to make it official for transgender people now.

[Davie]

9 hours ago, Ivy said:

https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-4268

 

 

Of course I hope it won't come to this, but lately I'm wondering.

As an American (US-type) I'm kinda ashamed that this is even a thing.

 

The USA should be ashamed—we're evil. Go, Canadians!

[Carolyn Marie]

Oh, Canada!  Very nice, and thank you.  👍, eh.

[awkward-yet-sweet]

Interesting.  Didn't know asylum was a "right" up there.  Those who would like to should take advantage of the opportunity.  

 

Various places in the US are becoming refuges from different types of official persecution. I'm hoping to see that kind of freedom extended to LGBTQ+ folks who just want to live quietly away from the crazy politics. 

[KathyLauren]

32 minutes ago, awkward-yet-sweet said:

Didn't know asylum was a "right" up there. 

 

It isn't until it is granted, especially for people coming from democratic countries generally regarded as safe.  What the petition is asking for is recognition that, for some people, the US should no longer be regarded as safe.  It's a tough sell, and will likely never be enacted as legislation.  But we have to try.

[KymmieL]

There are some states that give us, LGBTQ protection. I don't know if something federal would change that. It hasn't with the green laws that have popped up lately.

 

Kymmie

[Ivy]

2 hours ago, KymmieL said:

There are some states that give us, LGBTQ protection. I don't know if something federal would change that.

My understanding is that federal law trumps state law.

[awkward-yet-sweet]

3 hours ago, Ivy said:

My understanding is that federal law trumps state law.

Depends on how willing each party is to engage in enforcement if there is a disagreement. I suspect that a lot of it will be dealt with at the local level, rather than state or federal.  

[KymmieL]

10 hours ago, Ivy said:

My understanding is that federal law trumps state law.

I thought that too but what about the federal law against marijuana, yet all these states where it is legal?

 

Kymmie

[Ivy]

1 hour ago, KymmieL said:

I thought that too but what about the federal law against marijuana, yet all these states where it is legal?

My understanding is that it is occasionally enforced, but mostly not.  I guess just as a reminder that it exists.   Considering how widespread weed is, it's a bit like prohibition was.

[Mx.Drago]

Thanks Canada, I think... not sure cuz it's a petition. Hope it works out, but not holding my breath. If Canada went "yes" without the petition, then I'd might be a bit more hopeful.

Feels like it's another trap, cuz there's no solid evidence my situation will improve moving there. Still have to get there and hope the people will be civil. Feels it's just going to be another marketing ploy, cuz the money must flow, like the Great American Dream...limited with no guarantees and no refunds.

I have 0 rainbows, just Jupiter levels of storm clouds. Deleted so much cuz I'm trying not to go further off topic and there's too much... it's all too much.

Federal and state laws are just guidelines subject to change and aren't stone, all are enforced case by case and only if there's money. 🤷🤦So depressed.