CPAC Speaker Calls for "Transgenderism" To Be Eradicated

[Carolyn Marie]

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/cpac-speaker-transgender-people-eradicated-1234690924/

 

 

More of the same B.S.  All the speakers were competing to see who could be the biggest H8er of trans people.

 

Carolyn Marie

[VickySGV]

I read that on another site a bit ago.  I won't say here what my first impulse was, but the 2 x 4 is still out in the garage.

 

 

[awkward-yet-sweet]

CPAC is all lights and show, with no substance.  An echo chamber.  It stopped mattering when many, many people wanted Ron Paul but got Romney on the ballot instead.  And hopefully fewer people will listen or approve after this.  

 

Not sure who this Michael Knowles character is, but it sounds like he's a real prize.  I haven't totally accepted the concept of "trans genocide," but when people start using words like "eradication" it definitely begins to sound believably genocide-y to me. 😧  

 

 

[Marcie Jensen]

5 hours ago, awkward-yet-sweet said:

Not sure who this Michael Knowles character is, but it sounds like he's a real prize.  

He's an actor whose biggest claim to fame is a role in the movie Hollyweird. He's also a commentator on The Daily Wire. He also "wrote" a book called "Reasons to Vote For Democrats: A Comprehensive Guide." It consisted of 256 blank pages and a bibliography. Sarcasm Alert-- I think his book content may very well speak for itself regarding his intellectual prowess and critical thinking ability... 

[Ivy]

I saw clips of his talk.

I don't see how "transgenderism must be eradicated" can be interpreted other than as calling for "genocide".   Saying "there can’t be a genocide” of trans people because, [as] he claimed, “Transgender people is not a real ontological category” is absurd.

It's okay to kill us off since we're not real people.

This stuff is getting scary.

[Vidanjali]

1 hour ago, Ivy said:

I saw clips of his talk.

I don't see how "transgenderism must be eradicated" can be interpreted other than as calling for "genocide".   Saying "there can’t be a genocide” of trans people because, [as] he claimed, “Transgender people is not a real ontological category” is absurd.

It's okay to kill us off since we're not real people.

This stuff is getting scary.

 

They manufacture the belief that transgender people are not real by referring to us as an "ism" rather than a people. 

[Davie]

2 minutes ago, Vidanjali said:

 

They manufacture the belief that transgender people are not real by referring to us as an "ism" rather than a people. 

 

3 minutes ago, Vidanjali said:

They manufacture the belief that transgender people are not real by referring to us as an "ism" rather than a people. 

Exactly. These Republicans are openly anti-American and anti-Christian. Our country is based on; "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all people are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights," So believed our founders and Jesus Christ. They are traitors to say that. 

[awkward-yet-sweet]

@Ivy  "Ontological" category.  I actually had to look that word up, and I wonder what percentage of this guy's audience even knows.   But I think you're right - he's meaning that somehow we aren't real people.  Like, did I wake up this morning and pass through the walls because I don't really exist?  🙄 

 

On the bright side, I suppose that if I don't really exist then I don't have to pay my taxes.... 

[Davie]

New Florida Bills Would Ban Lying and Bigotry Among  English-Speaking Stupid People, and Severely Limit The Ability Of These Vicious MAGA People To Reproduce.

[Ivy]

38 minutes ago, Katie23 said:

Even after the US entered World War II, the government did not make the rescue of Jews a major war aim."

I recently watched a documentary on this.  FDR and Co. were afraid they would lose support for the war if they made it about helping Jewish people.  They downplayed the holocaust until they just couldn't anymore.  Hate is a remarkable thing.

 

I read some comments on a stream about the film clip.  Most of them agreed with Michael Knowles.  They seemed to think that we would all just see reason, get cured, and go back to being cis-het.  I guess because being transgender isn't real anyway and we will accept that.

[Charlize]

That sounds like a great bill Davie.  All this right wing hate provocation is most likely seen by the majority for what it is.

Unfortunately the majority doesn't control the outcome of the elections.  

 

Hugs,

 

Charlize

[KathyLauren]

5 hours ago, Ivy said:

I don't see how "transgenderism must be eradicated" can be interpreted other than as calling for "genocide". 

 

In his mind, he doesn't see being transgender as biological.  He specifically stated that.  (And misguided trans activists, particularly in the UK, share the blame for promoting that view.)  So he isn't calling for killing us, just for brainwashing us.  Not extermination camps, but massive conversion therapy or re-education camps.  Like that makes it any better.

[Ivy]

So…  How do you "eradicate" "transgenderism" without eradicating transgender people?

[VickySGV]

My extended vocabulary, which I hope I use wisely here, puts me in mind of his being PSEUDO-INTELLECTUAL and so full of himself that a Caterpillar 20 ton skip bucket cannot move him. Stuck up <bleep bleep>

[awkward-yet-sweet]

@VickySGV  "Pseudo-intellectual" is a good description.  I mean, unless one is a philosophy professor, I can't imagine average folks using "ontological" in a sentence in day to day life.  Yet, he can't seem to figure out how "eradicate" and "genocide" can be related....something average middle school kids would know.  Big words don't make a person smart. 

[Marcie Jensen]

12 hours ago, VickySGV said:

My extended vocabulary, which I hope I use wisely here, puts me in mind of his being PSEUDO-INTELLECTUAL and so full of himself that a Caterpillar 20 ton skip bucket cannot move him. Stuck up <bleep bleep>

I grew up in a household of pseudo-intellectuals; both of my parents were and my brothers became the same way. Mr. Knowles certainly appears to cast in the same mold. While many professions have specialized vocabularies, truly intelligent people realize that their professional vocabulary has little to no place in everyday speech. 

 

Vicky, you are spot on for calling this person out on it!

[Susan R]

On 3/4/2023 at 9:26 PM, Carolyn Marie said:

More of the same B.S.  All the speakers were competing to see who could be the biggest H8er of trans people.

I agree, Carolyn Marie. Their smug faces when spewing such idiocy says it all. I sometimes wonder how atrocities like what happened during WWII could have ever happened. What mindset could lead to such a thing? Well, I think we finally have our answer.

[awkward-yet-sweet]

3 hours ago, Susan R said:

I agree, Carolyn Marie. Their smug faces when spewing such idiocy says it all. I sometimes wonder how atrocities like what happened during WWII could have ever happened. What mindset could lead to such a thing? Well, I think we finally have our answer.

I see a parallel between what happened during WW II and what is happening now. The vast majority of Germans were not members of the unhealthy politics party, and did not actively share the beliefs of their leadership.  But they stood around and let it happen.  Apathy, I guess.  

 

In the same way, I know that the vast majority of people living around me in my red state don't share the anti-trans views of those seeking political power in their name.  But most don't care enough to say anything against it.   

[KathyLauren]

5 minutes ago, awkward-yet-sweet said:

But most don't care enough to say anything against it.

 

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

—Martin Niemöller

[Ivy]

29 minutes ago, awkward-yet-sweet said:

But most don't care enough to say anything against it.   

They want to believe they have no skin in the game.

[Robin]

If being transgender is not a real thing, and we are all just deluded or pretending, what problem does that actually cause?  Is a man dressing as a woman any worse than a man dressing as a comic book character or Mickey Mouse?  

 

I may be missing the point, but I can't see what the massive threat to society is.

 

Robin.

[Robin]

I didn't mean that these people are not a threat to us.  I meant that I can't understand why they think that we are a threat to them.

 

Robin.

[KathyLauren]

2 minutes ago, Katie23 said:

These CPAC Republicans just do not have the mental, emotional, or psychological capacity to understand what we go through. They have no empathy.

 

The problem isn't that they believe that crap.  The problem is that good people do not speak up.  Where are the doctors, the psychologists, the researchers, all of whom know better? 

 

Ordinary people will listen to both sides of an issue and make a choice about who is right.  On average, they will assess reality as being somewhere between the two positions.  But when they only hear the nutjobs, they will assess reality as being halfway between the idiocy and ... nothing.  So they might not believe everything the nuts say, but they will believe "idiocy lite".

 

The media are complicit in this.  The cover the squeaky wheel, which is them.  Even when they cover both sides of a story, they treat both sides as though they had equal merit, which is not the case here.  Giving equal coverage to both sides of an issue is inherently biased in favour of the side with less merit.  We need to light a fire under our allies so they stand up and present a stronger case than the haters.

[awkward-yet-sweet]

1 hour ago, Katie23 said:

Very good points Kathy! I do not know what the pain point will be for others to speak out about the manner and style we are being treated.

 

This is the thing.  Here in flyover country, people have talked about revolution and secession for most of my life.  But it hasn't happened yet.  My county and a couple others came close to declaring an independent economic zone in 2020, and we significantly developed our own infrastructure toward that goal...but that was because food supplies, employment, local autonomy, etc. were being severely threatened by both the state government and the feds.  Not to mention the civil unrest and other disruption.  

 

By bringing up that example, I mean to illustrate that the pain point is pretty severe for people to get out and do anything.  It would take hunger, even higher prices than what we see now, large scale unemployment, or laws so onerous that everybody is a target.  Since trans people are a very small minority, I'm not sure that there will be enough disruption to the average person's life for them to overcome inertia/apathy.  

[MiraF]

First - This is undeniably a genocide, and it has been for a while. If you want to see my reasoning, I made a long post on the topic here.

 

Second - The use of "transgenderism" mirrors a lot of unhealthy politics propaganda back in pre-WWII Germany, where the propaganda would usually say "Judaism" rather than "the Jews". At this point, it is not an exaggeration to say that the republican party is the modern unhealthy politics party.

 

Anyone who wants to say, "it's just a small portion of uninfluential pundits, the party itself is not as aggressive", a response I got a lot while discussing the issue, is willfully ignorant. This is CPAC, the largest and most influential gathering of conservatives in the world. Trans genocide is no longer a radicalization fear tactic used by the most radical conservative pundits, it's the party line, the bedrock of modern conservative ideology.