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Heather Shay

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I know it is Friday but I just read that the original drummer for the Left Banke quit the band early on and transitioned from Warren to Lisa. Brave soul back in the sixties and I applaud you.

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Today is Geddy Lee's birthday. He is 73. He was born Gary Lee Weinrib and is a baseball fanatic. He also appeared on the television series Murdoch Mysteries playing, who, else, Tom Sawyer. I remeber seeing Rush play in Cleveland about 1984. They put out more music for 3 musicians ONLY than any other band I ever saw. WMMS in Cleveland also was the radio station who broke the band in the United States as they played their first album all the time, especially "Working Man". My other favorite thing about the band was the joke... how many drummers does it take to change a light bulb. ANSWER - doesn't matter how many do it, Neil Peart will do it better. RIP "the Professor." Lastly, besides baseball Geddy collects bottles and has over 5000 in his collection.

 

Geddy is the son of Polish parents who were survivors of the unhealthy politics concentration camps. In addition to his composing, arranging, and performing duties for Rush, Geddy has produced albums for various other bands, including Rocket Science.

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OMG - it's amazing how many bands buffalo Springfield begot:

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You probably know Randy Newman and his songs for Toy Story and maybe his - sort of - hit - Short People, but did you know his family and relatives are a dynasty in film scores:

The Newman family is a Hollywood dynasty of film composers who have been nominated for over 90 Oscars. Some of their most famous scores include:
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    Alfred Newman
    Known for his work on All About Eve (1950), Anastasia (1956), Wuthering Heights (1939), The Hunchback of Notre Dame (1939), and How Green Was My Valley (1941), Newman also composed the fanfare for 20th Century Fox's studio logo. His final score, Airport (1970), was nominated for an Academy Award and released a month after his death.
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    Lionel Newman
    Scored Love Me Tender and oversaw the music for the original Star Wars trilogy.
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    Thomas Newman
    Scored Reckless (1984), Finding Nemo, Finding Dory, and Fried Green Tomatoes.
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    David Newman
    Scored Frankenweenie (1984), The War of the Roses (1989), Bowfinger (1999), Girls Trip (2017), and re-orchestrated Leonard Bernstein's music for the 2021 West Side Story remake.
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    Randy Newman
    Has been nominated for 22 Academy Awards for Best Original Score and Best Original Song, winning twice in the latter category. His scores include Toy Story, Toy Story 2, Toy Story 3, Toy Story 4, and Ragtime, which earned him his first Oscar nomination. 
     
     
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And Thomas did two of the Daniel Craig James Bond movies, one of three composers the Bond folks had do more than one 

 

 

 

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How about Randy's long lost cousin who changed the spelling of the family name, Alfred E. Neuman?

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Yes, Randy Newman--a great songwriter. Also, he wrote one of the best songs about racism and bigotry (and lying with advertising) ever:
Sail Away.

 

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THE JAMES GANG

I remember the first time I saw The James Gang. It was in 1967 in Cleveland at Cathedral Latin High School during the summer. They were a copy band at the time, a 5 piece with Glenn Swartz (Pacific Gas & Electric band fame - "Are You Ready? was their hit and my band Silverhorse did a copy of that song to open our WMMS Coffeebreak Concert at the Cleveland Agora in 1979). 

 

I picked up their second album, "Rides Again" after they had whittled down to a 3 piece band, changed bass players from Tom Criss to Dale Peters and of course, had Joe Walsh at the helm. I loved everything they did with Walsh and after he left to form Barnstorm and go on to a solo career and play with The Eagles and below Ringo's brother-in-law, marrying Ringo's sister-in-law, I kept up with the band.

 

After Joe left, Jim Fox (the only member I saw in 1967 who was still with thwe band), and Dale Peters enlisted Dominic Triano from Canada, a talented jazz oriented guitarist, and Roy Kenner, a good vocalist, but audiences wanted Walsh. Dominic left and was replaced by Tommy Bolin, an amazing guitarist, who'd played with Candy Givens (great girl vocalist) and the band Zephi, out of Colorado. Tommy left Jang Gang to join Deep Purple. The band picked up Buuba Keith (vocals) and Richard Shack and recorded one album with a Piccasso painting for the cover of Newborn. Their final attempt to resurrect themselves was to add former JG keyboardist (the one I saw in 1967) Phil Giallombardo and guitarist Bob Webb and released Jesse Come Home. I loved a song Phil wrote and attached below. They disbanded, Dale to work at Beachwood (suburb of Cleveland) Recording that produced some Eric Carmen work and Jimmy Fox went back to collecting license plates. Side note: my producer Rod Seagram was friends with Jim Fox and told me about the JG jamming one evening at Suma Recording in Cleveland with Little Richards, There is one song on the intenet from that jam if you are interested.

 

 

 

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he married Ringo's SIL
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Good read this morning Heather that band produced some epic records over the years. I saw the reunion concert in Columbus (live stream) November of 2022 with Fox, Peters, Walsh, they sounded great !

 

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When I think of songs with Monday, the only titles that come to mind are:

Stormy Monday

Manic Monday

I Don't Like Mondays

 

Do any come to mind for you?

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Set up perfectly, @Heather Shay😉

 

Monday Monday (Mamas and Papas)

Blue Monday (New Order)

Rainy Days and Mondays (Carpenters)

Come Monday (Jimmy Buffet)

I'll Be Home on a Monday (Little River Band). You might not have heard this one. Here 'tis:

 

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Thank you @Mirrabooka. WOW good songs. eclectic. You are right. Hasven't heard LRB song before. They actually played in our small town last year.

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Jimi Hendrix - quite the legend. He played broom as a child and because his dad wouldn't buy him a guitar, he found a 1 stringed ukelele in a trash can and learned on that. When he finally got a guitar, he was given a right handed one because it was extremely difficult to get left handed guitars and so he played them upside down. After serving as a paratrooped in the mllitary he performed in bands and eventually made it to Nashville and played with his own band on the chittin'circuit and additionally backed with soul musicians like Wilson Picket, Slim Harpo, Ike & Tina Turner, Sam Cooke and Jackie Wilson. Next came a stint with the Isley Brothers and Little Richard. He moved on to Curtis Knight & The Square and recorded with them and then recorded with a band he formed called Jimmy James and the Blue Flames with Randy California, who went on to form Spirit. THe Stones Keith Richard saw him and was blown away. He talked to Andrew Loog Oldham about him, who recommended Chas Chandler (formerly of the Animals). From there it is history.  You might have thought his path to fame was a quick one but things didn't happen until the Chas. Chandler connection. 

Hendrix was an amazing guitarist whose music never goes out of style and he influenced like every guitar player worth their salt. He was born in Seattle and there is a statue of Jimi playing his famed Strat in Seattle. The last thing I want to mention is that a guitarist friend of mine visited a guitar museum in the South (can't remember where) and he handled a guitar specially made for Hendrix, a strat that my friend said was extremely heavy and Hendrix never got to see it because he died the week he was to be presented the guitar.

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I was aware Jimi was in the military and had played with a number of influential musicians but this post added quite a bit, filling in the blank spaces so to say.  Thanks @Heather Shay!!

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I cut my rock and roll teeth on Jimi Hendrix. Two of my favorites: Little Wing and The Wind Cries Mary

 

 

 

 

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Al Kooper - what a musical history this man has. Keyboard player on "Like a Rolling Stone" ...by accident, reason for Super Sessions with Mike Bloomfield, Stephen Stills and Carlos Santana, Elvin Bishop, founder of Blood, Sweat and Tears, member of The Blues Project, discoverer and reason we know of Lynyrd Skynyrd. Any one these is is reason for Rock Fame and even his writing of "This Diamond Ring" added to legacy. 

What a legacy. When a younger man, he sneaked into Bob Dylan session hoping to play guitar on Like a Rolling Stone and noticed Mike Bloomfield - Plan B - noticed Hammond B3 not occupied and sat there (thankful B3 was not because he didn't know how to start one up - believe me, it's not as simple as pressing an on button). He came up with a riff that the producer didn't want and realized he was play "uninvited" and wanted to throw him out. Dylan loved it, asked for it higher in the mix and viola.

He played with Dylan off and on. 

He wanted to start a horns meets rock band, put together Blood, Sweat and Tears and left after one album after hearing the band Chicago, saying it was what he envisioned and they did it better.

After becoming a producer, he stumbled across a band called Lynyrd Skynyrd (named after band's high school coach) and what a first album they had.

He has an well written memoir called Backstage Passes and Backstabbing Bastards: Memoirs of a Rock 'n' Roll Survivor  and it is a a great read.

 

 

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TULSA is a city that has furished an eclectic variety of musicians including"

Elvin Biship

Garth Brooks

JJ Cale

Roy Clark

Joe Diffie

Ronnie Dunn

David Gates (he was in Captain Beffheart's band before BREAD - that's weird)

Jim Keltner

Jamie Oldaker (drummer with Clapton0

Carl Radle (Derek & The Dominos)

Leon Russell

St. Vincent

Phil Seymour

David Teegarden (Teegarden and VanWinkle - God Love and Rock and Rool, also played with Bob Seger)

Dwight Twilley

Bill Wills

 

Wow - so many musicians, especially in my age group and some of my favorite all time musicians. 

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