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SCOTUS Lets Stand Appeals Court Ruling Favoring Trans Student Privacy Rights


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If the Supreme Court isn't taking on this case or many others, I would guess that it isn't as "conservative" as many folks fear. 

 

However, I wonder if the reality is worse.  I'd prefer a ruling either way, just to settle this stuff so we know where we stand.  By leaving things relatively undecided, they're prolonging social upheaval....we're being used as a distraction.

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Just now, awkward-yet-sweet said:

 I'd prefer a ruling either way, just to settle this stuff so we know where we stand.  By leaving things relatively undecided, they're prolonging social upheaval....we're being used as a distraction.

 

I agree.

 

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This also isn't necessarily trans-positive in itself. They're just saying the case doesn't have strong enough ground to sue because the plaintiff didn't bring enough evidence to court. Basically, that could mean that, rather than not wanting to do the case, they feel that there is insufficient information given to do so. By leaving the suit be, it also leaves no precedent for future cases to be built off of. This just leaves holes for court to get messier in the future. Precedent is essential in all types of cases. Giving a ruling, one way or another, would be pretty essential to building cases of the same nature in the future. By letting this go, they aren't really supporting trans people -- they're just dismissing the issue all together, which, in reality, doesn't help either side of it. 

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Perhaps a bit of light might exist if i look at this as a further verification that simply disliking the existence of a school's policy is not a reason to sue.  The rights of these parents or their children are not harmed.  They simply cannot dictate policy because of dubious beliefs.

 

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I for one am actually pleased with how this one played out.  Local issues need to remain local and I am not on the States Rights bandwagon for all cases.  The facts of the matter did not constitute a case or controversy since the plaintiffs did not show actual or immediately impending harm to their children.  Now if the parents can show that the child had developed some type of sleep and eating disorder because they were in a bathroom with a Trans child or are involved in self harm over the idea (which is probably the parent's doing and not the school) then there might be something of a case or controversy for the court to take up.   I have six text books on U.S. Constitutional Law grinning down evilly at me that all say the SCOTUS should avoid this type of case, and shows where they have done it consistently for a couple of centuries. 

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