"I know Donald Trump’s type"

[Davie]

 “Vice President Kamala Harris: She said in her long career as a prosecutor, she’s taken on perpetrators of all kinds: "Predators who abused women, fraudsters who ripped off consumers, cheaters who broke the rules for their own gain," she said. "So hear me when I say, I know Donald Trump’s type." 

[awkward-yet-sweet]

And I know Kamala Harris' type.  How many ways can you say "New World Order?"  I'd rather have a relatively benign, corrupt ignoramus.  Neither of them would stand a chance if we had a candidate who would actually tell the whole truth.  But then, all those folks are busy working. 

 

I'd love to have a simple rule about federal office: "Whoever wants the job is automatically disqualified." 

[Mirrabooka]

Just now, awkward-yet-sweet said:

And I know Kamala Harris' type.  How many ways can you say "New World Order?" 

I took that literally simply because I don't know anything about her, but when I googled kamala harris new world order I got zero hits. Is it just a feeling, a vibe, or is there something tangible there that I'm not aware of?

[MirandaB]

Have been hearing about the 'new' world order for decades now. It's really not coming together quickly enough to be called new at this point?

 

Always thought it was supposed to be some sort of totalitarian takeover. If you had to look at the two candidates in the Presidential race, maybe the one who says he wants to be a dictator is the one pushing for a new world order, especially since it seems his favorite foreign leaders are dictators too?

[Davie]

"16 women have accused Donald Trump of various forms of sexual assault, including two accusations for rape." 

[Ivy]

"New World Order" is kind of a blanket term that doesn't seem to mean any particular thing.  Maybe like the "Beast" in the Bible?

I might be wrong, but didn't one of the Busch guys use it in regard to one of the gulf wars?   I'm also thinking a certain German political party that can't be named here may have used it as well.  

I suppose the Roman Empire was the "New World Order" of its day.

 

I have noticed that the misogynistic attacks on Harris have already begone.  I guess they skipped the NWO stuff and went to the -friendly person- sh*+.  The double standard always applies.

[Ivy]

That was odd.  I didn't realize the "M" word referring to dislike of women was on the banned list.

[Charlize]

   As a New Jersey resident trump has long been visible, long before his tv "stardom".  After his father left him a fortune, from being a slumlord, trump has managed to spend his life's a playboy with teams of lawyers just managing to keep him out of jail.          

   Living close to a flock of sheep i can see which ones might try to pull the wool over my eyes and which ones are loaded with parasites.  

His "type" need a strong dose of the livestock wormer he told dying people would cure covid.  Snake oil salesman still exist.

 

Hugs,

 

Charlize

 

[awkward-yet-sweet]

New World Order refers to globalism. Big government takeover of everything. And yes, leading to the "Beast" tyranny described in Revelation.  Some leaders, like Bush Sr and Obama have openly used the term in speeches.

Everything Harris stands for supports the globalist agenda rather than national sovereignty and personal liberty.  The only thing to save us will be gridlock in Congress.

 

Trump is no prize, but at least I don't have to worry about him provoking Russia into WW3, making us subservient to UN, causing massive inflation, supporting forced vaccination during a future pLandemic, or generally desiring to turn the USA into a cashless/meatless/fuel-less/gunless/freedomless hellscape. 

[KayC]

A Con-Man named Trump -- in case you haven't seen it

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1D2ynASqe4

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Mirrabooka]

18 hours ago, awkward-yet-sweet said:

New World Order refers to globalism.

Thank you for that.

 

I had heard of it but never bothered to find out what it meant. I imagined that it might have been some sort of Orwellian thing, or something dreamed up by a star chamber of world leaders with sinister intent. I never actually knew that it just refers to the natural progress of economies!

[Ivy]

Just now, Mirrabooka said:

natural progress of economies

As much as we may not like it, this is kinda unavoidable now.

We can't really go back to some kind of Jeffersonian agritopia.

[awkward-yet-sweet]

Just now, Mirrabooka said:

I never actually knew that it just refers to the natural progress of economies!

Well, if natural progress means a slow slide to an inescapable global dystopian nightmare, then I suppose so.

 

I disagree with the idea that it has to be this way, or that the outcome of the last 200 years is the only way things can possibly turn out. I also disagree with the idea that it is irrversible. Many people think it is, because a different way of life is beyond living memory at this point. 

 

For this reason, I feel that having a revolution and creating a new Republic is really important. Someplace has to be a test case to show the rest of the world that it can be done, finally silence the naysayers. At the beginning, America was the greatest experiment in world history. It is sad that we lost it.

[MaeBe]

My recent conversation with my father pivoted, after (I think) I got him to see the modern GOP is peddling a contrary form of religion than he espouses, to his thought that didn’t trust Biden as much to face Russia or China than the GOP candidate. I fail to see anything that he did in his last term that shows he would deal with them in an effective way. Unless you think that giving deference to Putin or going into a tariff war with Xi are viable strategies.

 

I do like how BP Harris has come out swinging. She’s putting steel into the fight in a way that seems to be taking the edge off some people’s concern over Biden’s decision.

 

One thing though: we have to be vigilant to call out blatant, and dog whistles of, sexism and racism when we hear and see them—and not just for Ms. Harris—everywhere. Her candidacy will be plagued by it, but we can’t only look at what’s affecting her as a privileged public figure. We have to show up for everyone. 

[MaeBe]

BP Harris. Thanks, iPhone...

[Ivy]

Just now, awkward-yet-sweet said:

a revolution and… a new Republic

I think there will be a whole lot of "collateral damage" in this case.  But I suppose that is acceptable to some folks.

Personally, I'm a little reluctant to eradicate the people I don't agree with.  But that's just me.  I'm getting a bit soft in my old age.

[MaeBe]

Just now, awkward-yet-sweet said:

It is sad that we lost it.

The romanticism for a form of society that can only be viewed through the beer goggles of history is kind of odd IMO. "We did it right, back then" is a bit reductive. There was so much we did so wrong for so long. We continue to do right and wrong things, but to say "let's oil our guns and set it all on fire" is far flung and would destroy society for a very, very, long time. Maybe forever. And not in a "it's better now" kind of way. In a "we're all dead" kind of way.

[MirandaB]

Not to mention our economy for our first 80 or 90 years as a nation relied on slave labor. 

[Sally Stone]

I kept telling myself not to get dragged into this conversation.  I quickly looked away each time I saw the blog pop up in the "Posts" column.  Well rats.  I let you all pull me in anyway.   Shame on me.

 

But since I'm here I will give you my two-cents, for what it's worth.

 

• Presidents are impotent, always have been, so I wonder why we put so much energy into electing an individual that's supposed to be a figurehead anyway.  A president's one true purpose is to represent the US in a positive way.  They need to look good, not say stupid things, and stay out of the day to day running of the country as much as possible. That's a good president IMHO. 
• The two-party system has always been flawed but now that the parties are representing the fringes, it's truly broken.  We need other choices if our voting power is ever going to mean anything.
• Congress and the Senate need term limits. Professional politicians are too busy holding onto power to concern themselves with actually governing. 
• Finally, I have lived overseas in several different countries because of my military service, and no matter how screwed up our country was or is, I was always happy to come back home.  At least here, I can voice my displeasure without disappearing, I don't go to jail because I have an alternative lifestyle, and I'm not persecuted for the books I choose to read.  

[Ivy]

I agree that our system is a mess.  But I think the president is more than a figurehead.  And if you combine project 2025, and some recent SCOTUS rulings they would pretty much be in charge of everything and immune for anything they did.

[EasyE]

Never thought I'd be the conspiracy theorist, but there is something dark about what has gone on the past few weeks and months. It all seems too scripted and too orchestrated. 

 

From the well-organized pro-Hamas protests (why are folks just allowing them to overrun college campuses and government property?), to the blind opening of our borders to hundreds of thousands (millions?) of illegals without vetting them (why doesn't this bother anyone!!!), to the early debate which served to expose Biden (debates never happen in a presidential race before the conventions), to the assassination attempt with totally obvious blunders by the secret service, to Kamala's amazing rollout 48 hours after the party pushed Biden aside, to all the media parroting the exact same lines ("he's sharp as a tack"), etc.

 

I just see a dark machine in the background of all of this and it is scary. I don't have an answer but think we all need to be on our toes, be vigilant and demand to see what is behind the curtain. Don't just gulp down the narratives behind pushed by "our" party and their media hacks. Question everything. Don't rest until answers are given.

 

And most of all, let us be good to ourselves and one another. Love your neighbor. Love covers a multitude of sins. Love conquers all. Love will win in the end. 

 

[awkward-yet-sweet]

7 hours ago, Ivy said:

I think there will be a whole lot of "collateral damage" in this case.  But I suppose that is acceptable to some folks.

 

Yeah, that's my biggest concern.  We saw in 1861 the answer to this question, "Can a region of the USA secede and form its own nation."  The answer was no.  They won't let regions like mine do something new, something apart from their system.  Funny thing, keeping folks in a nation they don't want to be part of anymore seems a lot like keeping people in a job (or on a plantation) where they don't want to be anymore.  One wrong thing did not really correct another.  Life's messed up like that.

 

I think it was JFK who said, "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable."  Would the Feds let us go our own way?  A peaceful "American divorce" could solve a number of issues, if handled in an orderly way.  But the love of power will probably prevent that. 

 

5 hours ago, MaeBe said:

but to say "let's oil our guns and set it all on fire" is far flung and would destroy society for a very, very, long time. Maybe forever.

 

Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think history agrees.  A revolution itself doesn't ruin society, and like a prairie fire it often renews things.  The American Revolution made something great, and inspired a lot of imitation around the world (some good, some bad.)  But we've pretty well done away with the "divine right of kings" and at least given lip service to the idea of the "consent of the governed."  The transition to that wasn't peaceful or calm, in many cases. And then we also have to ask, is what we have now something worth keeping?  Has "society" helped us more than it has hurt us? 

 

Just now, EasyE said:

Never thought I'd be the conspiracy theorist, but there is something dark about what has gone on the past few weeks and months. It all seems too scripted and too orchestrated.

 

^^^ THIS.  I can't really understand it yet, but it has been very weird.  And so far, Harris has been the beneficiary of it,  which ought to creep everybody out. 

 

Yeah, we know Trump's type.  I knew exactly the weaknesses he would have even before he was elected in 2016.  A rich guy from New York, historically a Democrat, who maybe halfways believes in American nationalism....at least for his own advantage. He's no savior.  But the alternatives?  I'd elect Trump any day and twice on Sunday just to avoid what I fear is coming. 

[Mirrabooka]

Just now, EasyE said:

Question everything. Don't rest until answers are given.

Problem is, I see too many people take that as meaning "Question everything. Don't rest until the answers that fit your narrative are given." Personally, I would rather take stuff on face value until proven otherwise.

[Birdie]

1 hour ago, EasyE said:

I just see a dark machine in the background of all of this and it is scary. I don't have an answer but think we all need to be on our toes

I get my groceries delivered twice a week, and most of the delivery drivers are the "new immigrant arrivals". 

 

I also speak Spanish, so I ask them questions. 

 

I always get, "we love this country, everything is free!"

 

Apparently when walking/swimming across the border they are instructed by charities to turn themselves in to immigration for processing. They receive a paper that shows their arrival into the United States and are released. That paper is then used to obtain a work permit, free cell phone, cash payments, housing, etc...(all free and provided without a repayment plan). 

 

They only have to claim asylum, and they are promised citizenship someday. 

 

I don't blame a single one of these people for coming here, who wouldn't take such a sweet deal considering where they are coming from. 

 

I just think someone or some people behind the scenes are trying to radically change the demographics of the United States by implementing mass immigration.

 

A new voter base.

 

Another four years of mass immigration and then getting the vast majority of them vetted as citizens would essentially turn the US into a "single party" system and virtually eliminate our current checks and balances.     

[awkward-yet-sweet]

@Birdie As a child of immigrant parents (and partner of a girl who came here as a refugee) I've got no problem with people coming here. 

 

But I think we are missing opportunities to educate people about why the USA is different. Seems like if they see lots of "free" stuff, they or their kids will want to support only the people they think are giving it to them.  They don't understand that it comes with a price.

 

For people who come from totalitarian places, I believe that showing them the protections and rights we are supposed to have might be more convincing.  Its no wonder that immigrants and their immediate descendants who live in my area are abandoning the Democrat Party in large numbers.  For me, I might have been more inclined to vote for Democrat candidates when I was younger, due to my immigrant heritage.  That changed when my partners started to show me what's really going on.