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Guest Evan_J

Which is not at all about what the title makes ya think :)

Just saw it even though its like 15 yrs old. Hadda admit, Al Pacino made me wonder if I was "a little too prickly" LOL but I don't think I'm as bad a he is (I'll leave that for the peanut gallery to heckle me on) . Still, a good "guy" movie I think; a buddy movie about an old guy and a young guy.

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Just watched that about two months ago. I thought it was decent like. Also, you're not near Al Pacino...yet :lol:

Didn't much like Chris O'Donnell's acting in this film though. Wasn't rubbish, but wasn't brilliant either.

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That movie made me so angry when I saw it. I didn't get the dilemma. These awful kids put a somewhat decent kid on the spot. He has a chance to do the right thing (turn them in for their bad behavior) and be rewarded for it and, for some unknown reason, he thinks it would be dishonorable to tell the truth. Worse yet, this bitter old soldier doesn't smack his head and tell him that he owes nothing to these awful kids who spit on him from their chairlifts as Staad and he should serve the school that has given him an opportunity to have a good education. That, and Pacino chewing up scenery like a tourist at a Vegas buffet...well, not my favorite movie. I also thought Pacino should have got the Oscar for Glengarry Glen Ross (A "guy" flick of the highest order) rather than this one.

Sorry...I feel like Belushi just after he smashed the guitar in Animal House :blush:

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Gin

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That movie made me so angry when I saw it. I didn't get the dilemma. These awful kids put a somewhat decent kid on the spot. He has a chance to do the right thing (turn them in for their bad behavior) and be rewarded for it and, for some unknown reason, he thinks it would be dishonorable to tell the truth. Worse yet, this bitter old soldier doesn't smack his head and tell him that he owes nothing to these awful kids who spit on him from their chairlifts as Staad and he should serve the school that has given him an opportunity to have a good education. That, and Pacino chewing up scenery like a tourist at a Vegas buffet...well, not my favorite movie. I also thought Pacino should have got the Oscar for Glengarry Glen Ross (A "guy" flick of the highest order) rather than this one.

Sorry...I feel like Belushi just after he smashed the guitar in Animal House :blush:

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Gin

LOL

(just to show you the viewpoint?) Loyalty and "being a standup guy" is a HUUUUUGE issue. Especially when you're young. Especially when you are or hope to be "one of the fellas" . Maybe I "knew" that cuz of the kind of fellas I used to be around when I was a kid; "street code" and "neighborhood code" and all that b.s. Pacino is a MAN though, not a boy, and knows that in the end none of that b.s. is "real" or fulfilled amongst grown men. As a man, its your own keister that you always better be looking out for. All that other stuff is the "fantasy" of childhood; thats what he tells Charles (in so many words). Pacino is "hard to take" in the film but only because of his own pains at his own life. He covers it by being "the grouch". With Charles though what you actually see is that he develops a sincere and deep affection; like you would have for a son; he just isn't the kind to sit around plucking daisies and kissing him on the cheeks to show it.

I "get" his character. And at the end of that movie I felt good :)

lol maybe you didn't get it cuz you're a girl ;) -just a good confirmation of girlhood?

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I actually enjoy the relationship portion of the film between Pacino and Charlie. I also look fondly on Gabrielle Anwar before she changed herself to what she now looks like on Burn Notice. Maybe this whole idea of being a stand-up guy is beyond me. I just thought it made Charlie look like a sucker as opposed to someone with honor (or maybe showed how someone with honor is an easy target for others to take advantage of).

For now, I will agree with your assessment and accept that, as a girl, I may not have been the right audience for this (even though I know women who love the film...ah, well). :lol:

love ya!

Gin

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Guest Evan_J

(or maybe showed how someone with honor is an easy target for others to take advantage of)

Theeere ya go.

And actually that is the "truth" of being what we call an adult. Its what Pacino was telling Charlie when he said "cheat on your wife but make sure you call your mother for mothers day". He wasn't telling him to do it. He was saying that thats how grownups (men) behave as opposed to people for whom "being honorable" really is behaving honorably (which gets left in childhood usually so you can "survive" among the other grown people) and he was WARNING him about it.

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