Jump to content
  • Welcome to the TransPulse Forums!

    We offer a safe, inclusive community for transgender and gender non-conforming folks, as well as their loved ones, to find support and information.  Join today!

Doctor Sabotage


Guest Chrysee

Recommended Posts

Guest Chrysee

Okay, I am an androgyne, but wanted the entire community to read this.Ii have mentioned before my upcoming hearing, but as i feel this is important, allow me to recap:

My Primary Care Physician referred me to a doctor acquaintance of his know very well for work in administering H.R.T. My insurance turned me down. Now my insurance is from the state, and they grant you the right to appeal, which I've done. I have a hearing coming up. Not as dramatic as something on Law & Order, it will be conducted over the phone but will include a judge as well as representatives from the state who do not (obviously) want me to win this.

I am allowed to provide 'exhibits' (documents, for instance, that support my case.) As well, for reasons that I wasn't clear on, a phone number and name was provided if I wanted to have an 'informal conference' regarding my case before the hearing. I did this and found myself talking to someone from the 'other side'. Interestingly enough, she seemed intent on finding a way that I could win! She even sent me a packet that includes the 'exhibits' that her side has to use against me!

Now one of my great hopes was to have some substantial evidence from my doctor to support me. Imagine my surprise when I found included in the 'enemies packet' a collection of Chart Notes from my doctor written after recent appointments. Even more surprising was the fact that he has been taking my case to a social worker employed in the clinic who has taken it upon herself to 'diagnose' me and include her findings in the notes!

Now I'd never heard of this woman, let alone met or even spoken with her on the phone.

One thing that has been going on since I came out is a certain amount of anxiety. (Am I the only one ever?) It has effected my sleep and caused me some breathing difficulties at night.

Now this is not copywritten, and I'm mentioning no names, but here is something that she wrote:

"If he becomes more stable with his mental health, is able to stop smoking, there may be resources for HRT in the future he can access on a sliding scale basis. Currently he would not be a candidate."

I cried. I called my doctor's advice nurse who happens to be the first person that I came out to, and we have been in constant touch. She is horrified and furious! I will be hearing back from her on Monday, after she's confronted the doctor.

Yes, I smoke. I also stated to my doctor that the moment a means of my receiving HRT is made available, I shall call about getting the patches. This she actually mentioned later in the Notes.

There's more, but the thing is I would have attended (on the phone) the hearing and walked smack into this hideous (and erroneous) testimony. The nurse That I mentioned knows of my recent anxiety, but assured me that I am not mentally unstable!

I am so angry!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for reading,

Chrysalis

Link to comment
  • Admin

This is horrible, Chrysee. You owe that insurance staff person a huge thank you for providing all that material up front, giving you the

chance to refute it.

I think you need to make a major issues of the fact that this social worker who has "diagnosed" you has done so based on nothing more than hearsay from the doctor, and has never met you, and is therefore not qualified to render an opinion. They should disregard everything she had to say. If they do accept her notes and opinions, you should ask for a list of her qualifications and experience dealing with TG issues.

I wish you all the best at your hearing. I hope you get treated better than your doctor and this social worker have treated you. I would also consider changing doctors.

Carolyn Marie

Link to comment
Guest JustShelly

If he becomes more stable with his mental health, is able to stop smoking, there may be resources for HRT in the future he can access on a sliding scale basis. Currently he would not be a candidate."

I am not sure if this is the social worker or the Dr. that said this. If this is the social worker, she has absolutely no medical expertise to say both of these statements.

As far as your mental health,there isn't too many Dr's or therapists that will prescribe hrt until your mental health is in check.

My therapist was more concerned with my depression then my gid, sure I wanted to focus on my gid but I knew as well that I had to get control over my depression first. Even though I knew alot of it was due to my gid.

As far as smoking. I have read so many posts on here stating the risks of hrt and smoking. I am always amazed at how many on here have just been able to quit "like that" prior to hrt. Even with all the issues they may be facing.

I am either not that strong or I am the only truthful one.

I will not advocate smoking, it is disgusting, unhealthy, expensive, ages one and highly addictive. I have preached this to my children constantly. In saying that I would like to point out that there is no proof that any mtf that is on hrt and continues to smoke is at more a risk then a genetic female. Its actually quit the contrary.

I am amazed at the number of trans women on here that have been denied hrt by there endocrinologist or Dr. If this was the case there would be many genetic woman that would be denied they're hrt or even birth control. I will admit that if your Dr. did not inform you of the risks involved with smoking and hrt, I would consider them a quack.

Everyone that is currently on hrt (trans and gg) has a higher risk for blood clot, stroke and dvt among other things including death. If you do continue to smoke your risk is higher. The risk is highest in genetic woman that smoke. All genitic women (even if they don't smoke) have a higher risk for these to happen if they are on hrt. It is in there genetic make up. If you were born male, such as I. No matter how much hormones you take your genetic make up will stay male.

I am not writing this to say I condone smoking and people should'nt quit. I am writing this because it seems people get facts mixed up with opinions. There are safer alternatives to hrt if you continue to smoke. Yes the safest is quiting smoking, even if your not on hrt. For many, including myself, this is not easy to do. Yes I hate smoking as much as I love it, but with so much going on in my life, it is my drug of choice.

I will someday be a non smoker (hopefully soon) until then I will have to risk my health like many, genetic woman that are.

Shelly

Link to comment
  • Forum Moderator

My question in all of this is medical ethics. At what point did this Dr. become empowered to discuss the case with someone outside the medical community? I would think the Dr. should obtain your permission to discuss your case even wit anoter Dr-but a Social Worker?! And obtaining a diagnosis without sharing it with you?

Then there is the issue of the competence of the social worker in making a diagnosis through a 3rd party as well as discussing a case with a Dr. which had not been authorized by the client. And putting it in writing in a medical file.

There are some serious breaches of ethics here that do not speak well of your medical provider!!.

I am so sorry this happened Chrysee It's just plain wrong. But I am glad you found out about it.

Good Luck on your hearing.

Hugs

JohnJ

Link to comment
Guest Chrysee

Thanks to all. Your support is deeply appreciated.

If the social worker was truly concerned about my mental state, then she never should have done this!

Luv to all,

Chrysalis

Link to comment
Guest Billijo49504

I'm new to the forum, so I'm not familiar to you. But if you have had counsiling, a letter from your therapist would be very good evidence. I wish you all the best and hope you win...Hugs Billijo

Link to comment
Guest Chrysee

I'm new to the forum, so I'm not familiar to you. But if you have had counsiling, a letter from your therapist would be very good evidence. I wish you all the best and hope you win...Hugs Billijo

I don't have a therapist, however. The social worker that I mentioned is a stowaway in my life.

Link to comment
  • 4 weeks later...
Guest Chrysee

I don't have a therapist, however. The social worker that I mentioned is a stowaway in my life.

Okay, it's me again. I had my hearing and have been rather isolated ever since, lost in my poetry and art work.

The procedure was not as brutal as I had feared. It took place over the phone, as I believe I mentioned before, and I must say that I felt silly sitting there at the computer (my usual place) with my left hand pressing the phone to my ear and my right hand in the air, per request, while I was sworn in.

The judge seemed decent enough. On the one hand, he wondered if my recent difficulties with anxiety attacks in the night that make me stop breathing and the rather substantial weight loss (nearly 20 lbs. and I'm a wraith to begin with!) wouldn't justify my receiving the treatment. On the other, he asked me why, if the doctor I wish to see volunteers time at a clinic on a sliding scale basis, I didn't just go there. Well. firstly, I didn't know that she (the doc, that is) did that when this began. Secondly, though she does that because she cares and. being transsexual herself, wishes to help. On the other hand, she has bills to pay and needs to eat and should, if possible, be paid for her services.

Best of all was the lady from the insurance company (the enemy, in the case of this hearing.) I mentioned earlier in this thread how helpful she's been. When the judge called on her to cross exam, she would not ask a single question!

Excuse me, but her job, her reason for being there was to tear me to shreds and leave the winner, and she never took a single swing at me!

I am still awaiting the verdict.

Afterwards, I took a cigarette break and then promptly called the insurance lady. Seemed funny, as I'd just heard her voice a moment before under such different circumstances. She was delighted to hear from me. When I asked if she'd passed on asking me questions to give me a break, she laughed, hummed and hawed a bit, but wouldn't cop to it.

Well, I know what I believe.'

God, I haven't posted or even dropped by in, what? over a week? Feels so good to be here!

Luv,

Chrysalis

Link to comment
Guest chngnwnd

Sounds promising Chrysee. It sound like the insurance rep. chose to act in accordance with her conscience rather tha the mandates of her company. Very nice.

hugs

Bobbi

Link to comment
Guest NatalieRene

This is horrible, Chrysee. You owe that insurance staff person a huge thank you for providing all that material up front, giving you the

chance to refute it.

Actually prosecution is required to share everything with the defense or else the defense could argue a mistrial.

Link to comment
Guest Chrysee

Actually prosecution is required to share everything with the defense or else the defense could argue a mistrial.

I rather wondered about that. After all, those years of watching Law & Order had to serve some purpose!

Thanks,

Chrysalis

Link to comment

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Who's Online   3 Members, 0 Anonymous, 93 Guests (See full list)

    • Timi
    • KayC
    • MomTGDaughter
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      80.7k
    • Total Posts
      768.4k
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      12,024
    • Most Online
      8,356

    JamesyGreen
    Newest Member
    JamesyGreen
    Joined
  • Today's Birthdays

    1. Alscully
      Alscully
      (35 years old)
    2. floruisse
      floruisse
      (40 years old)
    3. Jasmine25
      Jasmine25
      (22 years old)
    4. Trev0rK
      Trev0rK
      (26 years old)
  • Posts

    • KymmieL
      Well first day is over and now getting ready for bed soon. Work was OK.   Don't know why but I am feeling down. I am heading to bed. Good Night.   Kymmie
    • Adrianna Danielle
      Boyfriend and I our time at my place.Both admit our sex life is good,got intimate for the 2nd time and he is good at it
    • Abigail Genevieve
      Thanks.  I will look those up in the document, hopefully tomorrow.   I always look at the source on stuff like this, not what someone, particularly those adversarial, have to say. 
    • MaeBe
      LGBTQ rights Project 2025 takes extreme positions against LGBTQ rights, seeking to eliminate federal protections for queer people and pursue research into conversion therapies in order to encourage gender and sexuality conformity. The policy book also lays out plans to criminalize being transgender and prohibit federal programs from supporting queer people through various policies. The project partnered with anti-LGBTQ groups the Family Policy Alliance, the Center for Family and Human Rights, and the Family Research Council. Project 2025 calls for the next secretary of Health and Human Services to “immediately put an end to the department’s foray into woke transgender activism,” which includes removing terms related to gender and sexual identity from “every federal rule, agency regulation, contract, grant, regulation, and piece of legislation that exists.” The Trump administration proposed a similar idea in 2018 that would have resulted in trans people losing protections under anti-discrimination laws. [Project 2025, Mandate for Leadership, 2023; The New Republic, 2/8/24] Similarly, the policy book calls for HHS to stop all research related to gender identity unless the purpose is conformity to one's sex assigned at birth. The New Republic explains: “That is, research on gender-nonconforming children and teenagers should be funded by the government, but only for the purpose of studying what will make them conform, such as denying them gender-affirming care and instead trying to change their identities through ‘counseling,’ which is a form of conversion therapy.” [The New Republic, 2/8/24] The policy book’s foreword by Kevin Roberts describes “the omnipresent propagation of transgender ideology and sexualization of children” as “pornography” that “should be outlawed,” adding, “The people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned.” Roberts also says that “educators and public librarians who purvey it should be classed as registered sex offenders. And telecommunications and technology firms that facilitate its spread should be shuttered.” [Project 2025, Mandate for Leadership, 2023] Roberts’ foreword states that “allowing parents or physicians to ‘reassign’ the sex of a minor is child abuse and must end.” Echoing ongoing right-wing attacks on trans athletes, Roberts also claims, “Bureaucrats at the Department of Justice force school districts to undermine girls’ sports and parents’ rights to satisfy transgender extremists.” [Project 2025, Mandate for Leadership, 2023; TIME magazine, 5/16/22] Dame Magazine reports that Project 2025 plans to use the Department of Justice to crack down on states that “do not charge LGBTQ people and their allies with crimes under the pretense that they are breaking federal and state laws against exposing minors to pornography.” [Dame Magazine, 8/14/23] Project 2025 also calls for the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services to repeat “its 2016 decision that CMS could not issue a National Coverage Determination (NCD) regarding ‘gender reassignment surgery’ for Medicare beneficiaries.” The policy book’s HHS chapter continues: “In doing so, CMS should acknowledge the growing body of evidence that such interventions are dangerous and acknowledge that there is insufficient scientific evidence to support such coverage in state plans.” [Project 2025, Mandate for Leadership, 2023] Going further, Project 2025 also demands that the next GOP administration “reverse policies that allow transgender individuals to serve in the military.” The policy book’s chapter on the Defense Department claims: “Gender dysphoria is incompatible with the demands of military service, and the use of public monies for transgender surgeries … for servicemembers should be ended.” [Project 2025, Mandate for Leadership, 2023]   …summaries of what’s within the rest of the document re: LGBTQ+ concerns. A person can believe their gender is fixed but incongruent with their physiology, but the authors and Trump (by his own words) just see the incongruity of an “expressed gender” that conflicts with what was/is in a person’s pants.
    • Mmindy
      Good catch… I took care of it.
    • Sally Stone
      I'm tired of the two-party system.  It has degraded to a system where there are only two diametrically opposed views, neither of which supports me.  I have conservative views regarding big government and government spending but I have very liberal views when it comes to protecting the rights of individuals.  And just elections of the past, I am stuck with two choices, neither of which I support. With only two parties, each with agendas that are off the left and right scales, I am not adequately represented.    Finally, I'm okay with party affiliated politicians running for office using their party views, but once elected to office, they are obligated to support the entire electorate not just the electorate members that voted for them.  Plain and simple, our government system is broken and dysfunctional.  I'll step down from my soapbox now.     
    • Sally Stone
      Thanks Mae.  She was an amazing friend and I grew to love her like a sister.
    • Sally Stone
      I did Ashley.  Non-rev travel was one of the major factors for taking the job.  At the time, US Airways had the best non-rev policy in the industry.  It cost $10 to fly coach and $25 to fly first class.  We flew first class whenever there were seats available.  
    • Abigail Genevieve
      You should have a moderator fix what you meant to write as "birth certificate".  Ooops.   I've gone over that verse and am wholly and completely dissatisfied with the SBC exegesis of it, so much so that it was one of the things that helped me break out of a mindset of guit.  Sometime I may strut by stuff as a Hebraist and show what it really means.
    • Abigail Genevieve
      I found this   — 450 — Mandate for Leadership: The Conservative Promise Goal #1: Protecting Life, Conscience, and Bodily Integrity. The Secretary should pursue a robust agenda to protect the fundamental right to life, protect con- science rights, and uphold bodily integrity rooted in biological realities, not ideology. From the moment of conception, every human being possesses inherent dignity and worth, and our humanity does not depend on our age, stage of development, race, or abilities. The Secretary must ensure that all HHS programs and activities are rooted in a deep respect for innocent human life from day one until natural death: Abortion and euthanasia are not health care. A robust respect for the sacred rights of conscience, both at HHS and among gov- ernments and institutions funded by it, increases choices for patients and program beneficiaries and furthers pluralism and tolerance. The Secretary must protect Americans’ civil rights by ensuring that HHS programs and activities follow the letter and spirit of religious freedom and conscience-protection laws. Radical actors inside and outside government are promoting harmful identity politics that replaces biological sex with subjective notions of “gender identity” and bases a person’s worth on his or her race, sex, or other identities. This destructive dogma, under the guise of “equity,” threatens American’s fundamental liberties as well as the health and well-being of children and adults alike. The next Secretary must ensure that HHS programs protect children’s minds and bodies and that HHS programs respect parents’ basic right to direct the upbringing, education, and care of their children.   https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_CHAPTER-14.pdf   First, that is not much, if that is all that is of concern.  Secondly, I have seen all sorts of anti-Trump slander, including the Steele dossier and the lawfare he is now undergoing, to be cynical of any criticism against him, and indirectly this document.    He deserves some of what he is getting, but not all.  Thirdly, I bolded one statement of concern.   I don't think gender identity is subjective.  "Radical actors" is name calling, and there is a lot of that going around.  Maybe I am not seeing everything of concern or reading this right, but i would discuss with the author of this document concerning this.
    • Willow
      Good evening   well I finally finished reading my textbook.  Yeah.  But I still have a lot more to go for the class.     My endocrinologist always asks me about lactation.  And yes I have had some very small amounts of leakage but not on any regular basis.  I figure I blocked the discharge Duce when I pierced my nipples with scare tissue.  But who knows.  I also get asked about mammograms.  I e had my first or baseline and this fall I will need to schedule my second.   As someone in the midst of studying the Old Testament, I can say that I haven’t found any mention of pending damnation for being transgender or intersex.  The closest it comes is a verse that says men should not wear women’s clothing.  Now I don’t know each and everyone’s particulars, but I know I meet the medical definition of female gender, and even in Ohio, a State that until recently refused to allow birth certificates to be changed, I meet the criteria.  Therefore I can only conclude I am not a man wearing women’s clothing.  But there is a somewhat different scholarly explanation of that law that it should not be taken as literally as the haters want.  Mostly men should not pretend to be women to ex ape from their enemies. Or tried to hide from God.     willow
    • Abigail Genevieve
      Well, the left wing has been doing that.    I read a few things while trying to find out what the problem is and liked what I read.  But I am a conservative.    Is there something specific in there that is of concern?  Does it promise somewhere to erase trans folk? That would be problematic.
    • Ivy
      It's a plan to basically completely take over the government by the right wing.
    • Ivy
      I'm actually in Asheville tonight.  Some of the people in the support group invited me for dinner after the meeting.  We're going to get together again tomorrow again. It's been nice, 4 trans women and 1 trans man, together ar a restaurant.
    • Abigail Genevieve
      I found https://www.project2025.org/policy/   I will have to read it.  I have not.  What is of concern?   The link provided earlier goes back to this forum.
  • Upcoming Events

Contact TransPulse

TransPulse can be contacted in the following ways:

Email: Click Here.

To report an error on this page.

Legal

Your use of this site is subject to the following rules and policies, whether you have read them or not.

Terms of Use
Privacy Policy
DMCA Policy
Community Rules

Hosting

Upstream hosting for TransPulse provided by QnEZ.

Sponsorship

Special consideration for TransPulse is kindly provided by The Breast Form Store.
×
×
  • Create New...