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Guest Zenda

Kia Ora,

I know that for some, the thought of seeing ‘god’ in a different light or going against their churches’ doctrine[or for a more truthful word ‘doctoring’] could lose them a place in their god’s heaven…[umm...Buying into a belief..is like buy a 'stairway to heaven'].

I’m well aware that as human beings we ‘all’ need something to believe in, something to free us from our mundane lives…However one can choose to suffer through ignorance/being kept in the dark-[Religious leaders throughout history have been good at keeping their followers in the dark]…Or open ones eyes and see the light…a new kind of truth-freedom…

Now bearing in mind the Judeo-Christian and the Islamic god is… so their holy books tell us ‘omnipotent’ the creator of all things the almighty-the maker or breaker etc, etc…nothing escapes god....

Where you’re at this present moment in life, eg, confused or in a living hell-nothing seems to be going right or you could be in an heavenly blissful state or perhaps in a state of limbo…is according to your ‘predetermining’ holy book of life… ‘ALL’ your god’s handy work…well that's what I'm lead to believe...

You believe it’s god’s 'will' you are who you are and suffer or enjoy life accordingly, whilst other believers[who also believe in god - the same one btw] believe god is punishing you for sinning against him/her…[umm which ‘believer’ holds the ‘truth]….Have you ever tried to redefine who or what god ‘really’ is - your concept of god?

If this god is truly a ‘just’ forgiving and loving god-why does he/she make you suffer for being you…Or could it be you have created your own mental hell-through having a false or misguided belief ?

I just want to make you think about the ‘beliefs’ system that has been ‘forced’ upon you from a very young age…[you might not agree-but I see it that way]

I’m not against the belief in a god-each to their own… I’m just against the ‘ignorance’ and the damage to ones wellbeing that can stem from blind faith….

Again I ask …What as god done for you lately??? Or are you at a lost for an answer!!!

Metta Jendar

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Guest RainBird

I believe in my feelings that the exsistance of a supreme 'life-source' is out there somewhere which I call God, though not on religious grounds..

I'm not a religious person. Religion is a product of humans, humans make mistakes!

I believe we are gifted with the freedom of choice, which can be our life saviour when we listen to our own hearts and true feelings, rather than the thoughts, beliefs or expectations of others.

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Guest Jennifer1

There are many more religions out there then the Abrahamic ones. Some of those put us in a higher light then most normal people. Some forms of Druidism for one sees us as higher beings being that we are both of the god and the goddess. Native american culters and beliefs called us two-souls and we were not only allowed to decide our role male or female but in many cases we were also the religous leaders of the culture. Then theres In the Hindu belief the God Vishnu has a female goddess form he uses.

Just because one set of religions hates us doesnt mean they all do. Its sad that the more out spoken believers in the abrahamic religions are against us, that does not mean that the whole religion in itself is. Ive been told the mormon churches official stance on TG/TS is that we were sent by the devil to destroy man kind. To be honest my best friend for many years and still a very good friend now is mormon. She does not like what i am but she supports me. My current best friend honestly had a hard time accepting it. Both because of her religion and because of her knowing me as a man. She now refers to me as a girl and supports me in all ways she can. This was a girl who was currupted by the image of us set forth by the movie Red dragon/Silence of the lambs. She believed that i would be the one to kill her to make a woman suit. But as odd as she can be she never doubted me as a good person. In fact when she told me that she thought i was going to be the death of her ( i was playing around with a rope and she truely looked horrified) I asked her why she was still my friend and she told me it was because i was a good person. My old supervisor Devout Christian and Ex homophobe, was my biggest supporter in transitioning on the job. Its these people who have taught me that just because someone may believe something doesnt mean that they will automatically hate you. Its sad that there are some of those types out there but in the end every person has to be given a chance as an individual, not as a group.

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Guest Alice4016

Ah, well I am one of the few white Rastafarian's (for actual religious practices/belief...not to simply enjoy Kaya, I hope my brother and sisters can learn there is much more to this religion), but I have learned so much, and have improved my life soo much since adopting this religion. I was always feeling very conflicted with most conventional religions for what seems like the same reason as you...why would God put me in such a position, cause so much pain, if he truly loves me. But, I believe that Jah as a plan for me, that I am going through this to gain some knowledge, some experience, to help me at some later point. I know that we are created to love one another, to make the world a peaceful place so that we may all live out our lives. I also believe that as long as we are nice, do not harm others, and live our lives in a way that brings happiness to not only ourselves but to others and the world then we have lived as we should.

I guess my religious views are actually a mix of quite a few, and too complicated for my tired mind to work out at the momemnt. I do identify as as Ras, but I also partake in mediation, I have a very Zen like mindset, and I have a quirk where I believe in a separate mental plane where we all interact through vibrations (ever here "good vibes"? thats when everyone is in sync, no anger/hate/etc. throwing the vibes out of whack)...so take what you want from my religious views..I'll post more when I wake up..I didn't get out of the studio until 6 am...so I really need a few hours of sleep....

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Guest Martin

I do not worship the Judeo-Christian and the Islamic god, but I will answer the question. My deity has given me air to breath, food to eat, my wonderful dog, my hormones, water to drink, trees, flowers, sunsets, and on and on.

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Guest mwade1981

Well I was raised Jewish, and I still mostly idetify with that religion, though I'm not practicing at the moment. I have to say the thing that I got the most out of that religion is it's constant reliance on tradition. Say what you want about it's teachings, there is something comforting in being abloe to go to any temple and instantly know what's going on, and feal a part of the comunitity because of the shared tradition. And beyond that when I was studying for my barmitzfa my Rabi taught me to question everything. Not to take god at face value, but to question why I would belive in a god. And to be honest I'm still questioning, and I haven't come up with a good answer. Another thing I like about the Jewish religion is it's incompleat idea of heven or hell, the best discription of the jewish consept of heven and hell is it's what you make of this world. So I gessif you do bad in this world you will be punished in this world. I do like the budist idea of reincarnation, I find the thught of being able to start fresh very comforting. So I gess after all my rambling I'm of the mindset that even if there is a god out there he/she/it/any other pro-none you want to use has better things to do that deal with my issues, I mean there's all of creation to deal with and I'm such a small peace of it that I'm probably not even noticed. But I'm fine with that, at least that way I still have controle over myself, and my futer.

Morgan

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Castiana

i think that there are many gifts we have received from God. while there may be bad things in life I don't think they are always here to punish us or that we've done something wrong to deserve them. We have trials to make ourselves better.

Jennifer1, I have many good Mormon friends and I don't think that's true about the church. I'll go ask and find out. I highly doubt that's true.

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Guest Evan_J

I think that in the multitudes of members to god knows how many "religions" you can always find at least one person who is "good" and honestly tries to understand that all people are people.

Just like you can find people who actually join or follow a religion because it justifies or embraces prejudices, stigmas, hatreds, judgements....... I think the majority of these folks actually intended to subscribe to and adhere to those things before or without the [insert name] religion. They just wanted a "label" to do it under so that the label could get scapegoated. ie. "It's not that I'm a hateful, prejudiced, poor excuse of a human being, its that I'm christian".

And that in and of itself should make the people who honestly are looking fulfill the commandment of loving each other more peed than anything else.

Of course thats an opinion.... :)

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Guest Zenda
Ah, well I am one of the few white Rastafarian's (for actual religious practices/belief...not to simply enjoy Kaya, I hope my brother and sisters can learn there is much more to this religion), but I have learned so much, and have improved my life soo much since adopting this religion. I was always feeling very conflicted with most conventional religions for what seems like the same reason as you...why would God put me in such a position, cause so much pain, if he truly loves me. But, I believe that Jah as a plan for me, that I am going through this to gain some knowledge, some experience, to help me at some later point. I know that we are created to love one another, to make the world a peaceful place so that we may all live out our lives. I also believe that as long as we are nice, do not harm others, and live our lives in a way that brings happiness to not only ourselves but to others and the world then we have lived as we should.

I guess my religious views are actually a mix of quite a few, and too complicated for my tired mind to work out at the momemnt. I do identify as as Ras, but I also partake in mediation, I have a very Zen like mindset, and I have a quirk where I believe in a separate mental plane where we all interact through vibrations (ever here "good vibes"? thats when everyone is in sync, no anger/hate/etc. throwing the vibes out of whack)...so take what you want from my religious views..I'll post more when I wake up..I didn't get out of the studio until 6 am...so I really need a few hours of sleep....

Kia Ora Alice,

Jah Rastafari! and respect!

I'm of Jamaican descent[Father Jamaican/Mother English]. for quite a number of years I followed Rastafarism,[starting in my early twenties]... 10 years ago-just before I began to affirm my gender-I was fortunate enough to spend some time in Jamaica visiting my relatives during which time I visited the Rastafarian commune that Bob Marley set up..I found the 'true' Rasta to be the most friendliest, trustworthy people... It was there that I decided to be true to myself...

I had found Buddhism and Rastafarism go together well they both tend to focus on the 'mind'. one through 'herbal' meditation the other more natural...however all roads lead to Rome...

I went to one of Bob's concerts in Sydney [in the late seventies] and this really started to open up my mind>

[ But it took a number of years for me to 'stand up for my rights']

"Most people think,

Great God will come from the skies,

Take away everything

And make everybody feel high.

But if you 'know' what life is worth,

You 'will' look for yours on earth:

And now you see the light,

You stand up for your rights. jah!" B)

Don't you just love the wisdom of Bob's words...

Glad to hear you've found [your] the light...

Metta Jendar :)

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Well I was raised Jewish, and I still mostly idetify with that religion, though I'm not practicing at the moment. I have to say the thing that I got the most out of that religion is it's constant reliance on tradition. Say what you want about it's teachings, there is something comforting in being abloe to go to any temple and instantly know what's going on, and feal a part of the comunitity because of the shared tradition. And beyond that when I was studying for my barmitzfa my Rabi taught me to question everything. Not to take god at face value, but to question why I would belive in a god. And to be honest I'm still questioning, and I haven't come up with a good answer. Another thing I like about the Jewish religion is it's incompleat idea of heven or hell, the best discription of the jewish consept of heven and hell is it's what you make of this world. So I gessif you do bad in this world you will be punished in this world. I do like the budist idea of reincarnation, I find the thught of being able to start fresh very comforting. So I gess after all my rambling I'm of the mindset that even if there is a god out there he/she/it/any other pro-none you want to use has better things to do that deal with my issues, I mean there's all of creation to deal with and I'm such a small peace of it that I'm probably not even noticed. But I'm fine with that, at least that way I still have controle over myself, and my futer.

Morgan

Kia Ora and Shalom Morgan,

:rolleyes: I guess it would all depend as to what Jewish community group you belonged to, as to whether you would be accepted into the fold with open arms after you transition…I’ve hear that the more progressive, liberal groups do welcome trans and gay people with open arms and there was talk recently[in the last year or two] of some Rabbis even performing same sex weddings…

The Jewish concept of heaven and hell also makes senses…It’s true some people do make their own heaven or hell right here on earth-in the here and now…

:rolleyes: Buddhists believe in ‘rebirth’ but unlike ‘reincarnation’ one does not come back as the same soul/entity[ the soul or ‘permanent entity’ has no place in Buddhist belief or teachings]…In other words the concept is, when we are reborn we are not exactly the same person nor are we entirely a totally different person-the constant flow of consciousness [which is the mind] including our past karmic actions [wholesome and unwholesome] of our old life flows over to the new life …[Very young children are meant to have some awareness of their past life...However the older one gets the more new karma one produces and the more one loses touch 'memory wise' with ones past life]

It’s the invisible karmic energy, generated from the past birth, that produces the new mental and physical being,[Warts and all-so to speak]…

Life from a Buddhist perspective is ‘karmic’… We’re born in human form because of positive wholesome karma–It’s not a divine gift from a god…Life is the constant cycle of Samsara-craving and suffering - each rebirth is a lesson to be learnt and if we continue to crave for and do unwholesome things in this life we will suffer and be reborn again and again[sometimes not in human form] till we get it right and when one does…they have reached ‘Nirvana’…

“Karma and Rebirth in a nutshell!” Umm well my take on it anyway….

Metta Jendar :)

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