Jump to content
  • Welcome to the TransPulse Forums!

    We offer a safe, inclusive community for transgender and gender non-conforming folks, as well as their loved ones, to find support and information.  Join today!

Dying To Self


Guest Ephilei

Recommended Posts

Guest Ephilei

A question for transgender Christians: Have you had an experience or process of dying to self in relation to your gender? If so, how did it come about? What was it that died and what was resurrected? If not, why not?

I did go through two distinct experiences of dying to self in relation my gender.

Once was during my questioning period when I knew I was not typically gendered but couldn't identify as trans either. I performed a significant prayer where I asked God to remove all of my gender identity entirely and fill me with whatever identity God desires. Consequently, I lost my inhibitions from leaving a cisgender identity that were gripping me unknowingly and willingness to accept myself truly as I was.

The second experience was a year later thinking, "hm, maybe possibly, I've mistaken God, I'll open myself up again just to be safe." Same results.

Link to comment

When I discovered that I was transgender I prayed to God about it. He let me know that he loves as His child. I have been a born-again Chirstian for nearly 36 years. He sees our hearts and desires the best for us.

Gennee

Link to comment

I....ok.....I will confess, I'm one of those people who probably is afraid to die to myself. I'm not perfect, in fact I'm a looooooong way away from perfect. The thing is, most of the things I think are probably listed as imperfections by god I kinda dig having as personality traits? And that being the case, I don't know if I can honest and say I "died" to myself knowing that. And I don't lie to God.

Back when I was working through the whole sexual attraction to women thing (as a teenager) I prayed for it to Go away. Actually I begged for it feeling like I'd be suicidal in this lifetime if I thought I had to be "that". And it didn't go away, it never went away. And I had to realize god loved me regardless of what my sexual issues were. I never did that with the transgender thing but I didn't because I was feeling like (to an extent) there was a connection between identity and orientation. That my identity encompassed so much of my sexuality that to do so would in effect "doubt" what God revealed in the first go around between me and him. I think I've been prayerful about it. And certainly I've gone through a huge period where I tried to "be something else" because I though it would be better for how I was feeling regarding God but when it was all said and done I found myself more depressed and suicidal and hating myself for the attempt. In the end I felt tlike what was revealed for me was that God would rather have me "changing" the body, than "hating" the body. To me that's where the sin is, "hating" something he created. If I say "I want to destroy it, damage it, hurt myself with intent" then I hate it and myself. If I say "I have to change something so that the spirit can live and be happy" thats alteration and no sin. The body was made for the spirit to live in not the spirit made to be twisted to fit the body.

Link to comment
Guest ChrissyK
God would rather have me "changing" the body, than "hating" the body

The body was made for the spirit to live in not the spirit made to be twisted to fit the body.

These words are so true :) I went to church since I was 5 but stopped going when I was 13. It felt as though I "lost contact" with God in that 4 years but recalling back, I realised that God was always with me. I witnessed many events happen, that perhaps can be labelled as miracles. I start going to a local church again last month and that made me start on my journey of faith and self-acceptance. This was the foundation that made me accept me as who I am. For the past 4 years when I was , supposedly "lost contact" with God, I was in denial, trying to be someone I am not.

Anyway, recently, I asked a hardcore christian friend of mine about transgenders. (Not telling her that I am one, just made an excuse that I was doing an assignment on whether sex change should be legal in our country) Her answer was surprising! She said that God created you for a purpose (implying that God gave you the body, so you should stick with it) and said that being homosexual or transsexual is just a "stronghold", a belief that one holds very strongly. She further add that by accepting Christ, you will find salvation, that your "uncomfort" will just go away and you will become a straight person or cisgender. She even said that many homosexuals that accepted Christ became straight after that.

It was really surprising! It sounds totally opposite of what you said

The body was made for the spirit to live in not the spirit made to be twisted to fit the body.

I was and still am very disturbed by her views. What is more ironic is that she is a psychology student, and psychologists should have a more open mind about stuff like these?

Hopefully I am not going out of topic. It just came to my mind.

Link to comment
Guest Ephilei
I....ok.....I will confess, I'm one of those people who probably is afraid to die to myself. I'm not perfect, in fact I'm a looooooong way away from perfect. The thing is, most of the things I think are probably listed as imperfections by god I kinda dig having as personality traits? And that being the case, I don't know if I can honest and say I "died" to myself knowing that. And I don't lie to God.

Back when I was working through the whole sexual attraction to women thing (as a teenager) I prayed for it to Go away. Actually I begged for it feeling like I'd be suicidal in this lifetime if I thought I had to be "that". And it didn't go away, it never went away. And I had to realize god loved me regardless of what my sexual issues were. I never did that with the transgender thing but I didn't because I was feeling like (to an extent) there was a connection between identity and orientation. That my identity encompassed so much of my sexuality that to do so would in effect "doubt" what God revealed in the first go around between me and him. I think I've been prayerful about it. And certainly I've gone through a huge period where I tried to "be something else" because I though it would be better for how I was feeling regarding God but when it was all said and done I found myself more depressed and suicidal and hating myself for the attempt. In the end I felt tlike what was revealed for me was that God would rather have me "changing" the body, than "hating" the body. To me that's where the sin is, "hating" something he created. If I say "I want to destroy it, damage it, hurt myself with intent" then I hate it and myself. If I say "I have to change something so that the spirit can live and be happy" thats alteration and no sin. The body was made for the spirit to live in not the spirit made to be twisted to fit the body.

That's so interesting. Given your strong connection between orientation and gender, I would say that counts. But that's between you and God.

Link to comment

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Who's Online   1 Member, 0 Anonymous, 99 Guests (See full list)

    • Petra Jane
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      80.7k
    • Total Posts
      768.3k
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      12,023
    • Most Online
      8,356

    Delaney
    Newest Member
    Delaney
    Joined
  • Today's Birthdays

    1. Dillon
      Dillon
    2. Kaylee888
      Kaylee888
    3. lily100
      lily100
      (39 years old)
    4. Luce
      Luce
      (44 years old)
    5. Luke.S
      Luke.S
  • Posts

    • Heather Shay
    • Heather Shay
      What do you do when you feel triggered?
    • Heather Shay
      kind of in a null state
    • Heather Shay
      WEARINESS When stress from adverse or challenging events in life occur continually, you can find yourself in a state of feeling emotionally worn out and drained. This is called emotional exhaustion. For most people, emotional exhaustion tends to build up slowly over time.
    • Heather Shay
    • Heather Shay
    • Heather Shay
    • Willow
    • April Marie
      Stunning, as always, Maddee!! I love those boots.
    • VickySGV
      I am glad your schools are flush with excess spending money, but that is not the situation here in CA.  Back in 1978 an Initiative and Referendum law was passed that limited property taxes severely and basically cut funding from Property Taxes to pennies of the amounts needed to even minimally fund school districts.  Even the U.S. Supreme Court which upheld the law on Federal and Constitutional grounds nevertheless wryly commented in its decision that the state electorate had lost its collective mind in enacting the law.  Our schools are funded through the State's General Fund which receives other tax sources for creating the entire state budget. The General Fund and the legislature try to give  adequate funding  to the primary and secondary school districts as well as college districts and other obligations all from the same limited funds. There are also strict limits on assessing property taxes that actually prevent them from paying for other services directly affecting property ownership which is their proper place, and so even property related services come from our General Fund. Your property tax money seems to be ear-marked for schools which is wonderful and I hope they use it according to your thoughts, but as said we have a different problem out here in CA.  I love my state but do recognize its short comings.  Point of information, the tax law that is creating problems came from the same small area of the state as the proposed referendum on Trans Youth. 
    • VickySGV
      The numbers of those negatively affected are significant and discouraging, but the good news is that "over half" of Trans youth live in safe states, and such states do exist.
    • Maddee
    • awkward-yet-sweet
      Seems like a reasonable agreement.  Seattle stays out of Texas, Texas stays out of Seattle.  Weird that the Seattle hospital had a business license in Texas... 
    • awkward-yet-sweet
      Seems to me the time and cost is already being spent....on lawsuits.  And schools are absolutely flush with cash, at least around here.  They get enough property taxes, they need to learn appropriate use of funds.  Buy a few less computers and a few more bathrooms, and spend less time on athletics and I'd bet you a hamburger that the issue would be solved in a year.   To me, it seems like the whole bathroom thing is like lancing a boil or a cyst.  A sharp initial pain, and done. People are just resistant to doing it.      I think I could solve most of it...but politicians get too much press off of this to want it solved.   1.  Universal use of individual, gender-neutral, private bathrooms 2.  Universal use of individual, gender-neutral, private spaces for changing athletic clothes 3.  Emphasize co-ed rather than gendered sports.  Focus on physical activity, good sportsmanship, and having FUN.  Lifelong enjoyment, not just competition. 4.  Ban for-profit athletic programs at highschool and college levels, and ban betting/gambling related to athletic programs at educational institutions. 5.  Affirm parental rights consistently, rather than treating it like a salad bar.  That means permitting gender-affirming healthcare with parental consent, AND prohibiting schools keeping secrets from parents.  Adopt the "paperwork principle."  If it is on paper, parents 100% have a right to know about it and be informed on paper, including names/pronouns if such are documented.  If it is verbal only, it is informal enough to be overlooked or discussed verbally if needed.
    • Carolyn Marie
      https://www.texastribune.org/2024/04/22/texas-trans-health-care-investigation-seattle/     Carolyn Marie
  • Upcoming Events

Contact TransPulse

TransPulse can be contacted in the following ways:

Email: Click Here.

To report an error on this page.

Legal

Your use of this site is subject to the following rules and policies, whether you have read them or not.

Terms of Use
Privacy Policy
DMCA Policy
Community Rules

Hosting

Upstream hosting for TransPulse provided by QnEZ.

Sponsorship

Special consideration for TransPulse is kindly provided by The Breast Form Store.
×
×
  • Create New...