Justice Department Still Applying DOMA Despite Court Ruling

[Carolyn Marie]

What the Justice Department is telling the Federal bureauocracy may be legal, but is still sucks.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/for-uncle-sam-issues-of-same-sex-bias-transgender-equality/2012/05/03/gIQAjUe9zT_story.html

Carolyn Marie

[Guest Elizabeth K]

SUX you are right.

I have been berated on Facebook for being disappointed in Obama REFUSING to sign an executive order protecting LGBT from being discriminated against by Federal contractors. The spin is this, this is an election year. The spin is, it can be done through congress.

I am a big supporter of Obama (please don't start in on a political debate this is just me). BUT I am STILL very disappointed.

(!) Read if carefully it is ONLY LGB not LGBT. Same with DADT repeal.

(2) So if Obama is NOT reelected there will be NO period where this protection was in force, which would perhaps set a useful precedent! So duh!

(3) Last time I looked we had a Republican dominated Congress so Obama saying he will go that way is just not an honest appraisal.

Politicians are politicians. I am so angry that Obama is so wishy washy but I have known that since he came into office. To be honest his hands are often tied, but it's really disappointing anyway.

I am not sure I can vote for ANYONE this election year. I am so unhappy we transpeople are persona non grata ... AGAIN!"

Lizzy

[Guest winterangel]

I am not sure I can vote for ANYONE this election year. I am so unhappy we transpeople are persona non grata ... AGAIN!"

I do not find it wise to refrain from voting; and because I am a social democrat, I just certainly hope that you don't vote for Mitt Romney in the presidential election, but that is your decision to make.

[Guest Jo-88]

I voted for Ron Paul in the FL republican primary but he has no chance of getting the nomination at this point so I also probably wont vote in the general election. I don't see the problem with refusing to support either candidate... neither one deserves my vote so they aren't going to get it. If Obama would actually keep his word once in awhile he would definitely get my vote over Romney, I can't stand Romney (he's George Bush all over again, and before you say it there is a big difference between a conservative and a neo-con... Romney is a neo-con).

P.S. Yes I know Ron Paul's social stances don't exactly benefit the LGBT community, I only voted for him for his fiscal policies which I think can go a long way to repairing our economy (#1 concern for me considering my $160k in student loans and no job opportunities)... so please don't hate on me for my choice My only point in writing this was to defend Liz's choice not to vote, I think it is the right thing to do if she doesn't support any of the candidates... I don't see a problem with that.

[Guest winterangel]

I voted for Ron Paul in the FL republican primary but he has no chance of getting the nomination at this point so I also probably wont vote in the general election. I don't see the problem with refusing to support either candidate... neither one deserves my vote so they aren't going to get it. If Obama would actually keep his word once in awhile he would definitely get my vote over Romney, I can't stand Romney (he's George Bush all over again, and before you say it there is a big difference between a conservative and a neo-con... Romney is a neo-con).

P.S. Yes I know Ron Paul's social stances don't exactly benefit the LGBT community, I only voted for him for his fiscal policies which I think can go a long way to repairing our economy (#1 concern for me considering my $160k in student loans and no job opportunities)... so please don't hate on me for my choice My only point in writing this was to defend Liz's choice not to vote, I think it is the right thing to do if she doesn't support any of the candidates... I don't see a problem with that.

My reason for not finding it wise to avoid voting is that, either way, one of them will win, and if it's Romney, I'd like a plane ticket the hell outta here, please. So, that is more subjective than it is objective. I'm unsure as to whether it is okay for politics to be discussed here, so I'll simply say: if either Romney or Paul wins—the latter, mind you, being extremely unlikely—I just want out of here. While I don't like Ron Paul's social stances, I dislike his fiscal policies even more strongly; the same goes for Romney. Therefore, with both Romney and Paul eliminated as reasonable choices to me, the default is Obama; but I am unable to vote.

[Guest Elizabeth K]

I never said I won't vote. I said I cannot vote for any of the candidates I am sure some scrawny, desperate non-main-party person will make the Louisiana ballot. I will probably vote for him or her. What is so wrong with the Save Your Kitty Litter Movement? I mean at least you know right up front they are gonna screw up everything because they tell you - not urinate in a cup and tell you it is lemonade, like the current candidates want to do

In the last few years, the very idea of telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth is dredged up only as a final resort when the alternative options of deception, threat and bribery have all been exhausted.

Michael Musto

Don't worry - I will throw away my vote just like everyone else.

Lizzy

[Guest Jo-88]

I never said I won't vote. I said I cannot vote for any of the candidates I am sure some scrawny, desperate non-main-party person will make the Louisiana ballot. I will probably vote for him or her. What is so wrong with the Save Your Kitty Litter Movement? I mean at least you know right up front they are gonna screw up everything because they tell you - not urinate in a cup and tell you it is lemonade, like the current candidates want to do

In the last few years, the very idea of telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth is dredged up only as a final resort when the alternative options of deception, threat and bribery have all been exhausted.

Michael Musto

Don't worry - I will throw away my vote just like everyone else.

Lizzy

+1 lol

[Guest winterangel]

I voted for Ron Paul in the FL republican primary but he has no chance of getting the nomination at this point so I also probably wont vote in the general election. I don't see the problem with refusing to support either candidate... neither one deserves my vote so they aren't going to get it. If Obama would actually keep his word once in awhile he would definitely get my vote over Romney, I can't stand Romney (he's George Bush all over again, and before you say it there is a big difference between a conservative and a neo-con... Romney is a neo-con).

P.S. Yes I know Ron Paul's social stances don't exactly benefit the LGBT community, I only voted for him for his fiscal policies which I think can go a long way to repairing our economy (#1 concern for me considering my $160k in student loans and no job opportunities)... so please don't hate on me for my choice My only point in writing this was to defend Liz's choice not to vote, I think it is the right thing to do if she doesn't support any of the candidates... I don't see a problem with that.

My reason for not finding it wise to avoid voting is that, either way, one of them will win, and if it's Romney, I'd like a plane ticket the hell outta here, please. So, that is more subjective than it is objective. I'm unsure as to whether it is okay for politics to be discussed here, so I'll simply say: if either Romney or Paul wins—the latter, mind you, being extremely unlikely—I just want out of here. While I don't like Ron Paul's social stances, I dislike his fiscal policies even more strongly; the same goes for Romney. Therefore, with both Romney and Paul eliminated as reasonable choices to me, the default is Obama; but I am unable to vote.

I never said I won't vote. I said I cannot vote for any of the candidates I am sure some scrawny, desperate non-main-party person will make the Louisiana ballot. I will probably vote for him or her. What is so wrong with the Save Your Kitty Litter Movement? I mean at least you know right up front they are gonna screw up everything because they tell you - not urinate in a cup and tell you it is lemonade, like the current candidates want to do

In the last few years, the very idea of telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth is dredged up only as a final resort when the alternative options of deception, threat and bribery have all been exhausted.

Michael Musto

Don't worry - I will throw away my vote just like everyone else.

Lizzy

Well, I guess I incorrectly interpreted your post, then.

I'm hoping for a major social democratic party to spawn, but sadly I think such a thing is only a dream, for at least a few decades. :c