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Camila, I know all of the feelings that you are having, I had them all - but I didn't have a wife who put my happiness ahead of anything. She didn't even put hers first - it was whatever her family said to do - she told them and they said to leave, so she did and she hasn't spoken to me since - only her sisters and brother in law. Now it iss in the hands of the attorneys.

Be aware of how special she is and a note to Black Rose, be aware of how special Camila is, bring so concerned about your happiness as well.

I think that the two of you stand a great chance of making things work and staying together - I hope so, you both seem so nice and I would really like to hear about a happy couple for a change!

Love and hugs for both of you,

Sally

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Guest Black_Rose

Oh Sally I am so sorry. I hate it when family comes between people, I really do. I don't understand how people can wake up and say "let me see who I can mess up a life"

It is not fair. Your wife must of felt scared, I sure as hell did, but Gosh darned it I think it's natural, and in hopes of having support and love from those who are closest to one is really important and they go and stomp on people and it is so wrong.

They way my foster family is, no way in hell they will be understanding but then again I really don't give a crap if they do or not. I never ask for anything from then and if they ever need something from me I am therein a heart beat but it's not like they are more than involved with us.

Camila's family, oh no, they would not understand, trust me, but also they are in my I don't give a crap if they do.

You go through life trying to please those around you, take my biological father, I soooooo wanted him to love me and to show me he cared and the only time we spoke from the heart was on his death bed and he said "out of all my children you came out the best and I am so proud of you and I think it had to do with how I was not there to screw you up" then when he died I said "it's over, I wanted this person's love and for what? his absence and his indifference made me a better person and now he's gone I no longer have to have this struggle."

You fight and fight to have approval, to have love to have things you think you want but why want something or someone who will not care? it's not worth the Gosh darned effort and it's not fair to you, trust me because as you sit there wanting the other people are there thinking of something else.

Sally I am so sorry you had this happen and I am sorry you are going through a hard time, no one deserves to be put down, made to feel bad or guilty for who they are and if they do, and excuse my language, love them! Surround yourself by those who love you back and Gosh darned it I may not know you but I love you (hugs)

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Guest Donna Jean

Yo, Rose..sweetie...where you been our whole life?

Ah...You are SO awesome ..how did that happen???

You make my smile a mile wide..I just want to say how hard it is on the "Other" in the relationship..(that be you, Rose)...You are the one who has something "sprung" upon them and throws their life into a tailspin. But, you know, your reasoning, compassion and care is beyond all that anyone could ask or pray for! You know how many people here of whatever gender would KILL to have you as a partner? But, you are the stabilizing component in all this...the voice of reason...

Some around here have a hard time believing that someone like you exists..too good to be true..but..there you are..beautiful.

Thank you ...you've honestly given some people hope that some how or another they can achieve their goals and not lose the love of their life....

Thank you for the hope

And thank you for being a wonderful person.

Ok.I'm done now...

Donna Jean

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Guest Black_Rose

Donna you rock my socks!! ok so I don';t have any on but still if I did you would ROCK them!

You made me cry! in a good way though in and awesomely good way!

Thanks.

I am in no way shape of form perfect, I mean I have man, many imperfections but I found someone who likes them lol

On other news today Camila and I went shopping, and we are doing our feet, she wasn't sure a hair piece I picked would look good and she just came over "what do you think?" and she looks breathtaking! she said "I love it" seriously look fantastic!!!

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Guest CamilaRose
Camila, I know all of the feelings that you are having, I had them all - but I didn't have a wife who put my happiness ahead of anything. She didn't even put hers first - it was whatever her family said to do - she told them and they said to leave, so she did and she hasn't spoken to me since - only her sisters and brother in law. Now it iss in the hands of the attorneys.

Be aware of how special she is and a note to Black Rose, be aware of how special Camila is, bring so concerned about your happiness as well.

I think that the two of you stand a great chance of making things work and staying together - I hope so, you both seem so nice and I would really like to hear about a happy couple for a change!

Love and hugs for both of you,

Sally

Sally,

I'm so sorry your wife couldn't even try to be more understanding :(. (hugs) That truly sucks.

Yeah, I already knew she was special, and have always said that one of the qualities I love most about her is how loving, caring and understanding she is. She's the one great love of my life, and I cherish her more every day. :wub: Far from tearing us apart, at least as far as I can tell this seems to be bringing us closer together. We'll just take it one day at a time and try to have fun with it. Life's too short to do anything else. :D

Love and hugs to you Sally, I hope things get better for you.

Camila

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Guest CamilaRose
On other news today Camila and I went shopping, and we are doing our feet, she wasn't sure a hair piece I picked would look good and she just came over "what do you think?" and she looks breathtaking! she said "I love it" seriously look fantastic!!!

:blush: Thanks.

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Camila and Black Rose,

I am doing just fine, but how else would I be doing when I know that there are so many people who care? With all of the problems that face each and every human on the planet, we find ourselves with a whole extra set and yet we take the time to show compassion and concern for others! I think if more of the self proclaimed 'normal' people in the world would take the time to get to know us - they would be amazed. Camila, your wife is one who has taken the time and sees the beautiful person that you are and Black Rose, your husband truely appreciates your efforts in trying to understand a very difficult subject.

Congratulations to you both! I would be proud to call you my friends.

I love you both, you are an awsome couple!

More than just a little bit 'misty',

Sally

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Hi Rose and Camila, thank you for telling me about this place I hope to get to spend some time here this weekend and get to know everyone better as well as posting my own introduction thread.

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Guest Black_Rose

Are you my Ms Tea?

Cause if you are, welcome!!!

Everyone this is a friend of mine from another board, see I have been part of this board for years and went under another name to get advice or well to ask questions about what was happening to Camila and I. I did not want to go under my reg name for privacy and anyway I got told about this place. Long story short, I ended up going in again under the name and giving an update, but my original thread I had asked to be taken down cause I got what I had needed and yeah.

When I gave the update Ms Tea, who had missed my original thread saw this one and sent me a PM and we have more in common that we knew!!

So look at that all this time I did have someone to talk to and did not even know it!

Can't wait for you to meet everyone, they are all nice, supportive and just wonderful!!!!

Can't wait to read your intro thread :D

Welcome love!!!!!!

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Guest DeniseNM

Black Rose welcome to the community, I am new here too. I am also new to coming out to people about being transgendered. I have told my wife and a couple of other people, and they have been accepting of me (which is a great thing and means alot to me), so I can understand what your accepting of Camile (lovely name by the way and love how she got it :D ) means to her. This is a great community and they do make you feel welcome here.

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Guest DeniseNM

Camila welcome to the community (sorry about accidently misspelling your name in my other post it won't happen again....LOL). I understand about the feelings you have but you definately have a wonderful wife there girl and don't forget it :) (I am sure you won't)

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I am your Ms Tea, I figured the name was close enough that you would know right off.

I am so happy to have found someone that I know that is in some what of the same situation, I was so happy when she posted an update. I am suppose to be working now but I will be back with a full introduction later.

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Guest Donna Jean
I am your Ms Tea, I figured the name was close enough that you would know right off.

I am so happy to have found someone that I know that is in some what of the same situation, I was so happy when she posted an update. I am suppose to be working now but I will be back with a full introduction later.

Hello, MS TEA...how nice to meet you! Kick your shoes off and grab a fist full of cookies..coco's over there...>

Oh, I really like that (MISTY) nice..it made me smile...

So, you know Rosie? Thats great because she is the most AWSOME person...well loved around here, I can tell you!

Thanks for joining us...

see ya later...

Donna Jean

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Donna Jean! What are you thinking? Offering Cocoa to a lady named MS TEA! I got the MISTY as well. And just to let you know MS TEA, welcome to the playground - we may be a little crazy at times, but we do get serious when we have to.

But just chatting with friends is so much more fun than just dealing with problems, so have a seat and enjoy the gang!

Love ya,

Sally

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Thanks for the welcome ladies! I actually prefer coffee but Chai tea is one of my favorites.

I used to have a dog named Mistea (she was a chocolate lab, that kind of goes with the choco) but Ms Tea is actually short for my regular screen name, since this is a searchable forum I did not want other people to find me here via google and I figured it would take Rose about two seconds to figure out it was me.

She is pretty awesome and I am so glad to follow her here, she linked me here anon at first but I knew it was her when she started to talk about shoes, I am a shoe girl myself so it just clicked.

Well I still have not done any work but I am going to start my into post anyway. Off to post!

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Guest jessw76
My name, well it is not even important so lets stick to Black Rose, um I am not really sure how to start but I guess I'll start from the beginning.

First seems like you all have a great little community here, I belong to a few forums and as much as they all have the same feel this one is much different.

Second I am a woman, married, got kids and about 2 months ago, while doing what I always do with my husband have fun, talk have a few drinks to relax after a long day he says "I have a secret" now he wanted to wait for us to be done with the day and all that jazz but I said "no, tell me now, come on :) " and he did he told me "when I was younger I used to dress in woman's clothing and I like it and I would like to do it again."

backing up to how this actually came up, it was going to be Halloween and my brother said "hey lets all dressed up" I picked one of my heroes to be who is a male and my bro said "I will go as your girl and so can your hubby" well hubby was all in to it but I noticed nothing strange since we knew we had to dress up for that day I figured it was all research.

Long story short he tells me, what are the first things that come out of my mouth? "I love you no matter who you are, I love you for you and that is all that matters" well it's true I do love him, he is my world, my life, he is my prince, my hero. He rescued me from an abusive relationship, made me see that I was worth something and believes I am the most beautiful woman that walks on this earth (I think he may be insane but that is another issue lol) anyway the event happened and she looked great! ( I used she, see I read the thing where it said well you know)

We had a great time, she got compliments from strangers! "honey you are gorgeous! absolutely stunning!" I had to say thank you cause her voice isn't well she has a very deep voice. All well, life pretty much the same and then it sank in, my husband likes being a woman.

Now I didn't' know who's happiness is more important, his or mine, hers or mine. For a while I said nothing, but I did cry a lot, in the shower mostly, when he asked me what was wrong I would lie and say "oh shampoo got in my eye" and stuff like that. After not knowing what to do I decided to go anonymous to my regular support board and people were very kind and this is how I found this place, a member there said "here go here"

I have read but did not register and well here I am. Backing up a min, after not speaking to anyone and trying to be the brave one, I finally had to speak to someone, and I did, I spoke to my biological mother who is also a very important part of my life and you know what she said?" of course not you don't know her, anyway she said " that's it? this is why you have been acting strange? honey that is nothing! you love him, he loves you and that is the important part. It can be worst!" I looked at her and said "yes, yes it can!" then she went on about "so what's her name?" I said "we, she hasn't picked one" then she said "Uhhh can I pick it?" I was still shocked I was talking to my mother about this and her reaction and just love coming out of her soul that I felt better! anyway she ended up picking her name lol

I told my husband and he was happy and sad, but it gets sad again cause I spoke to a friend of mine, and she was also very accepting and wants the best for us and as long as I am happy then she's happy, and here is the deal, he did not want anyone to know, I know I was wrong to speak about it but Gosh darned it is it fair? here I am a person who has had a hell of a life, thought "finally I am getting a normal life" and bam! out of no place my husband comes and tells me this and I have to keep it inside?

Some may not understand, some may say "shame on you!' but you have to understand we have been together for a long time and not once has he ever even hinted this and I love him, I respect him and I want him to be happy as a he and a she but this is new to me and at times I felt like I was in a bad dream. He's upset with me because I told, he says he understands why I did it but upset.

I don't know what to do, I'm kind of in limbo right now. I love my husband, I want him to be happy, I have only been exposed to this recently and Gosh darned did I just write a Gosh darned novel? I'm sorry.

anyway can I stay? can I join this community and learn, have advice and so on?

Sincerely,

Black Rose

hi black rose I totally understand how you feel. I just found out about my husband and I am still adjusting or trying to. This is all very new to me lol. I am glad i have found this site. I think we will both find alot of support, understanding and friendship here.

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Guest Elizabeth K

Ooops

Rosie - Liz here, sweety:

Two things actually -

I welcomed you again in a post like you were a newbie and you have been here a while - sorry - senior moment? Awwwww blame it on the hormones - grin - everyone here blames everything on hormones anyway. :D

And - you are not my wife? - hummmmm.... just asking. She say just about the same things... but she is spicey Sicilian Italian - second generation American- yikes, can she spit fire at me sometimes... and I usually deserve it. :P

Loves ya - keep on keeping on - you have wonderful posts!

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