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Guest Kayla Grace

A few Q's regarding facial hair, makeup, and electrolysis/laser

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Guest Kayla Grace

Hi all,

I've been pondering this for a while now, but Moom (and possibly my own mind's hormones) has reduced my hair growth rate to where I can't rip it out every week. If I have to suck up the razor, I'll do so, but I was wondering if there was any makeup out there that can hide facial hair?

Another closely related question is, is there a certain length that facial (or any other) hair has to be before it can be treated with electrolysis or laser?

God Bless

Kayla <3

(to the moderator approving this: I apologize if this is in the wrong forum. It's facial hair so I don't think it's wrong. delete these two lines regardless)

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Guest Kaylee

Hi Kayla,

To start, there was a post just a few days ago regarding some make-up tips.

feminizationsecrets.com/top-5-beard-concealing-tips/

And

www.buzzfeed.com/augustafalletta/27-charts-that-will-help-you-make-sense-of-makeup?&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=BuzzFeed+222&utm_content=BuzzFeed+222+CID_f6331812db76ae195a6d452577403838&utm_source=Campaign%20Monitor&utm_term=These%20charts%20will%20help%20you%20make%20sense%20of%20it%20all#.exJ5KeeyG

I admit, getting it right is tricky, and what workes for me, may not for you. I have dark hair, and I find that a base, then concealer are too thick for daytime use (look cakey, and quite expensive) I also find even high quality Concealers can be too heavy if you try to cover the bluish hue with multiple coats. There is the red lipstick trick, but it still looks too thick to me.

Cancealer is made to cover red blemishes though, so I use a red lip pencil over the areas of heavy hair. The pencil will blend into the skin better (like a sun burn) , counteracting the blue hue thus requiring far less concealer. I was also able to use a less expensive one.

By no means am I an expert. I just got this resolved for myself a few days ago after doing it like 6 times back to back.

Laser removal... Works only for dark hair on fair skin. Tomorrow is episode 7 for me. It's spotty, but only remains in a few places. Shave before. It technically burns the hair, and more hair, more burning hair to smell.

I have not had electrolosis, but I understand that it only need be long enough for them to grab with the zappers? (I assume someone with experience will correct that if I'm wrong).

Anyhooo.. Practice practice practice :)

Kay

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Guest Lizzie McTrucker

Laser, it's advised you be as clean shaven as possible right before your treatment. Even still, your laser tech will most likely double check your face and have a razor on hand just in case you missed a spot.

Electrolysis, you should have some growth, like 1/8th-1/4th of an inch. The person doing the electrolysis has to be able to actually see the actual hair so it can be zapped with electricity. After being on HRT for almost 2 years now, I usually stop shaving a week before my appointment to give my hair enough time to grow out.

I don't know how light or dark your facial hair is so a qualified laser tech will be able to tell you if you're a good candidate for laser.

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Guest Kayla Grace

Thank you Kay. I'll definitely have a look, and sorry about the post a few days ago. I must not have seen it :s

After being on HRT for almost 2 years now, I usually stop shaving a week before my appointment to give my hair enough time to grow out.

I'll bet that drives you up the wall not shaving for a week. I know it certainly does me!

I remember my doctor telling me I was a good candidate for laser, because most of the hair I have is dark, but not overly. Call it a brown or something of the like.

I know that a common misconception is that HRT won't do anything for your facial hair .. are we sure? Has it done any impact on your facial hair growth? Legit curiousity because I'm trying to gather as much information and studies as possible. If there's anything transition has taught me so far, it's that the mind alone is capable of insane things. I know that one can't bank on the mind completely getting rid of ones facial hair; but hey, the more we know, right?

Kay, you are of course allowed and encouraged to answer what I asked Lizzie, as well :)

God Bless

Kayla <3

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Guest Lizzie McTrucker

It's certainly annoying and slightly embarrassing. HRT has slowed the growth of facial hair and body hair. It still grows, it just takes a little longer. But I'm far enough along that what does grow are the remaining white hairs and the occasional dark hair in random spots. I think they're probably more noticeable to me because I'm overly critical of my appearance than the person casually looking at me.

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