Jump to content
  • Welcome to the TransPulse Forums!

    We offer a safe, inclusive community for transgender and gender non-conforming folks, as well as their loved ones, to find support and information.  Join today!

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Carolyn Marie

Personal Review: "The Danish Girl"

Recommended Posts

Carolyn Marie

I saw this wonderful movie today, along with my wife and son. There won't be any spoilers here, although the true story of Lily is pretty well known.

The performances of Redmayne as Lili and Vikander as Gerda were Oscar worthy, in my view. They were sensitive, moving, honest and tasteful. Redmayne really did his homework, and the advice and counsel he received from several in the community, including one friend of mine, really seem to have been taken to heart.

From a technical standpoint, the costumes, hair, settings and cinematography were all first rate. I won't be surprised if they get a nomination for best costumes.

Emotionally, I certainly saw elements of my own life, especially how the relationship between Lili and Gerda progressed. The pain, sorrow, fear and anger were all very palpable. At times, it was wrenching for me, and i was emotionally wrung out by the movie's end. Me and my wife and son discussed our feelings afterward, and it helped. But there were feelings and thoughts that had to remain private, even from them.

A worthy work of cinema. Please go see it.

Carolyn Marie

Share this post


Link to post
Jani

I saw this movie last night with my wife. We both cried at the end. Overall it was a little to close to home for me. I agree at times it was like an emotional roller coaster. A couple times I felt like leaving the theater. I knew a little about Lili's story so I understood this was an adaptation with plenty of liberty taken in telling the story. Yes, the acting was good and costumes and sets seemed realistic for the times presented.

Jani

Share this post


Link to post
VickySGV

I have not seen the movie yet, but in listening to my friends who have, there is one striking element on their reactions to it that follows on their progress into transition. Those who are full time and have completed transition almost find the reality to be too intense and unsettling, and they have had to really hold on to themselves to stay for the end of it. Their SO's and family members are not nearly as shaken up by it as they are, and people who are in the non-transitioning categories such as occasional CD clubber, and those who are non-Trans* see it as good entertainment, but do not especially bond with the characters and story line. For them, it is academic, but not a gut twister.

Share this post


Link to post
Charlize

I'm hoping to see it but often find my wife is not as interested as i am in movies about transition. They always hit us hard.

Thank you for the review.

Hugs,

Charlize

Share this post


Link to post
Cyndee

Thanks for your impressions Carolyn, I do want to see this movie.

I will comment how we can be affected by cinema sometimes. Before coming out I've long since struggled with seeing movies or images of cross gender themes, the emotional involvement becomes quite intense, I feared others seeing my true self. Case in point, it's early 1983 I went to see a movie then "Tootsie". Watching this movie with friends really triggered something in me. I ended up leaving the movie in the middle, quite shook up over essentially nothing. I proposed to my wife to be latter that night, I realize now, in a way I ran from myself that night.

Share this post


Link to post
JJ

Thank you for the review. I had told my daughter that we are going to see it in the theater. For economic reasons we usually wait till we can watch movies at home but we make exceptions like the Hobbit movies, the new Star Wars and this one. I want to see it in all the intensity that a theater affords.

Maybe. Because no theater is showing it here now. Nor can I find it on a schedule. I will have to go to Little Rock if I want to see it apparently. Sometimes this part of the country can be so depressing. There are some horror movies showing and some horrific movies but apparently this one is just not acceptable here.

Johnny

Share this post


Link to post
Guest

Thanks for your impressions Carolyn, I do want to see this movie.

I will comment how we can be affected by cinema sometimes. Before coming out I've long since struggled with seeing movies or images of cross gender themes, the emotional involvement becomes quite intense, I feared others seeing my true self. Case in point, it's early 1983 I went to see a movie then "Tootsie". Watching this movie with friends really triggered something in me. I ended up leaving the movie in the middle, quite shook up over essentially nothing. I proposed to my wife to be latter that night, I realize now, in a way I ran from myself that night.

I understand the running away from ourselves. That is why when I hear "you are so courageous" I usually reply I'm scared witless. I don't explain all the times I ran, all the crazy overcompensating things I did to prove to myself that's not me.

The first order of business was to have sex with a woman. Would that be like a lesbian having sex with a woman? Would it prove she wasn't hetero? Giggle. The great mysteries of life. Hug. JodyAnn

Share this post


Link to post
Guest Mickey

I saw this the other day. I watch everything online. This movie really hit me right smack in the feels. I had to pause it several times when it got to be a bit too much for me. As Vicky said, being full time, it go to be really intense at times and extremely unsettling. Over all a very good movie.

Share this post


Link to post
Guest saoirse

I'm hoping to see it but often find my wife is not as interested as i am in movies about transition. They always hit us hard.

Thank you for the review.

Hugs,

Charlize

I was going to watch it with my wife but a friend suggested I watch it myself first. this was a good idea for me as the story might have scared my wife a little . I had only a brief idea of lilly's story so I did not know what to expect . like others here there were moments I just wanted to stop watching it , there was a lot of moments where I thought "omg thats just like me " and a lot I could empathise with . it was tough watching at times but I am glad I did. I have found myself thinking about the film a lot since .

Tara

Share this post


Link to post
TrueSelf

Oh my! Only the trailer already touched me close to tears. Will have to keep my tissues ready when the movie starts from 7th january on over here.

Share this post


Link to post
LeighAllison
The movie depicted well the ignorance of transexualism by the medical community and the gruesome things they did to "cure" trans women. It's so sad to imagine what trans women went through back then.


The movie showed the pain and upheaval that transition causes to everyone around. Gerta's life was turned upside down completely outside of her control. Watching that was the most difficult part of the movie for me.


Mostly the movie was a wonderful love story where Gerta, knowing that she would lose her husband (and ultimately even Lilly) supported and comforted her anyway and never stopped loving her. That's what made the movie fulfilling. She knew that she had to let Lilly fly even though she loved her (hence the last scarf scene).


What I think the movie missed on was that it didn't show the emotional consequences that led up to Lilly's transition. Most trans women before transition live their lives imitating men and doing what men are "supposed" to do. But leading an inauthentic life comes at a cost - they give up their emotions - their real selves. And when they finally do allow themselves to be their true selves they find that they have real emotions, are real people with real lives. It's difficult to ever go back to being empty. So when Gerta ask Lilly to be her husband again Lilly said that she didn't think she could do it. I understand that but I didn't think the movie gave us the basis for that understanding.


Allison

Share this post


Link to post
Guest Astrosmurf

Oh God, I went to see this yesterday with my partner. It hit home to our situation, and it was harrowing for both of us, but kind of cathartic. We both cried, my partner sobbed and had to run to the toilet after the movie. I went to the loo as well, went in a cubicle and was overwhelmed, just sobbed as quiet as I could. My partner has green eyes and the whites were red, her eyes puffy, people were staring -- full on experience. I'll never forget this film.

I agree, not sure cis people will be as enthused but the performances etc. were great. Hope they get an oscar.

I did laugh right at the beginning, the shot opens on Gurda's beautiful eyes and you can see a big mascara clump in the outward corner of her right eye :rolleyes:

I hate clumps, but apparently they had mascara back then so it's maybe still authentic lol.

Share this post


Link to post
Guest Raya

The cinematography was great, (Had to be, film about artists?) and I thought the use of close ups in hi def really worked, but I dont get out to see many movies lately. The small bit of male nudity seemed appropriate.

The story line made me feel for Gerta- I mean what more could she do, and to be rewarded with ?!! Oh well.

As a gay friend pointed out, there was the lovely Hans waiting in the wings...

Share this post


Link to post
Charlize

We went to see it and i'm glad we did. The acting was superb as was the visual feeling of the film. I loved it and the tears that followed. It gave me a visceral feeling for those who had gender issues well before HRT or successful surgery was an option. It was certainly a powerful movie and i don't think it bothered my wife nearly as much as i thought it might. She has grown in understanding to an extent i'm finding miraculous.

I highly recommend the film.

Hugs,

Charlize

Share this post


Link to post
Guest

Finally gave in and watched The Danish Girl.

 

OMG.  What an incredibly bad movie.  The cast is beyond comprehension.

The dialect/accent is incredibly bad for a Danish setting.  The pronunciation of names is equally poor.

This is little more than a Hollywood sensationalising of a Trans* individual.

The only good point of this movie; it hits you in the feels.

 

Huggs, :wub:

 

Joann

Share this post


Link to post
Guest cerise

I saw the movie in the first week of its release and recently in the last 2 months. I would say it's quite accurate in its depiction of a couple dealing with such a revelation but having read the biographies that are available online the telling is somewhat skewed or packaged. 

I have talked about it with few people but the ones I have, I expressed my misgivings at Lily referring to herself in the third person in many of the circustances. That is probably due to the fact that it was taken from her diary.

The story in my mind focused on Girda , and life unfolding after her acceptance. Alicia Vikkanders role had far more substance to it and her acting deserved all the praise it was given.

It was very triggering for me but reading the truth as to the circumstances of Lily Elbe death make me feel the movie is misleading. 

Share this post


Link to post
Tejana

Very interesting thread.  I could never bring myself to watch the movie in question.  Being all too familiar with the true story on which it was based, I could never be comfortable seeing a cinematic dramatization of the real-life person's tragic demise.

Share this post


Link to post

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Who's Online   2 Members, 0 Anonymous, 173 Guests (See full list)

    • SamanthaC
    • MaryMary
  • Topics With Zero Replies

  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      68,736
    • Total Posts
      620,415
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      5,540
    • Most Online
      8,356

    MadMax
    Newest Member
    MadMax
    Joined
  • Today's Birthdays

    1. Arcis27
      Arcis27
      (32 years old)
    2. MSKT1998
      MSKT1998
  • Posts

    • Jani
      Ha Ha!     Good news.  I'l glad to read you're doing fine.    Cheers, Jani 
    • Jani
      You and your husband are so sweet Debra!  I'm sure you'll all be happy and reap many benefits.   Good morning Kymmie!!  
    • Charlize
      Debra it is lovely that you are doing this.  You are getting an ally as well as a daughter. A blessing!   Hugs,   Charlize
    • Maid In Bedlam
      I have been reading a few threads regarding trans Homicide. It got me thinking.     We are even allocated a special day. Transgender day of rememberance to remind us of and to recall and in our own way grieve for our fallen brothers and sisters who have been murdered for there right to express themselves in the manner they feel is right for them. I also have found articles online expressing that Trans homicides are  now at an  and I quote "Epidemic Levels". Are they faking it and Scaring people into hiding? Not revealing ourselves for fear of mortal demise. Or are we trying for some kind of hysteria? Should we be scared? Should we all fear the reaper when we leave what we regard as a safe place? particully whenever this day of remeberance comes personally it reminds me that my life could be in danger. Regardless of how well you fit into the social norms and with no regard of how well you pass if thats the word you like to use. So I decided to actually look at the figures to see how this panned out. The figures do tell quite an interesting story . Let me take the UK for instance. The total number of Trans persons murdered in the UK Between October 2017 to September 2018 was 1 The total number of homicides for this time period was 726 murders. population  66.04 Million So just one person was murdered. because of there trans status out of Seven hundred and Twenty Six persons. I personally do not consider this an epidemic of murders against the Trans comunity.  To put this into perpective. Just Deaths from road accidents were 1,710 for this time period.   So I decided to look a little deeper. Remember our figures will be lower in my opnion because firearms offences are very rare for us. Lets now take the United States same Time frame. Murders assiociated with being trans 28. Total number of murders in the United states for the same time period. 17,284  So considering the amount of recorded homicides it again is hardly an epidemic. Population 327.2 million Now lets look into the highest recorded number of trans related homicides in the world. Brazil. Which I consider a much more violent country in general if you go by population to homicide rate. With a total of 167 out of a total number of recorded homicides of 63,880. Population 209.3 Million I have taken the step of leaving out any statistics on if these people were in the Sex industry or not and just rounded it up. who would by default have a higher chance of being a victim of homicide. as a murder is still a murder regardless.   The population of the world is estimated at 7.53 Billion and the total global trans related murders 369 for the time period   Even Turkey Who by definition dislike anything Trans related theres only 7     So in reality being murdered because of your trans status is still very rare considering the total of Homicides in general. In saying that One murder is One to many. Not only is the person had there life taken from them The ripples from that effect so many others in a life changing way.  Murder is a Horible crime. Taking another life in this way is wrong on every level regardles of the reasons behind  For me Trangender day of remembrance should still be the day when we recall the fallen. But do not let it make you in fear of your life. As in reality it is still not an epidemic. This day. When it comes to pass again I will still spend time thinking of those who have had there lives taking from them for what they stand for in the same way I remember The fallen from conflicts on rememberance Sunday but will now understand that I am not in mortal danger as soon as i walk out of my door. I hope this has also made any of you who have been scared to reveal yourselfs to the world in the belief your in peril.   We are all in danger going by the statistics but not for being trans and most certainly not for being anything other than ourselves Link to figures here   Transrespect Versus Transphobia Worldwide. This is the source of figures often cited by trans campaigners.   Please bare in mind there is not yet an official, standardised method for recording the deaths of trans people across the UK or indeed world wide. But these are the figures widely used and accepted   Do you agree? Should we still be scared? have i missed something fundamental in my conclusion? Please do correct me if im wrong. Forums are for disscussion.     Please note I could do another thread on hate crime but I am considering Homicide for the purpose of this post as this is what the day in question is about and for the fallen. It does make me thinkthe public in general  are being deliberatly misled.   So to sumerise. Dont panic whenever you open the newspaper  In reality you are more likely to get hit by a bus crossing the street than you are being a victim of homicide. So be safe. Be careful and dont put yourself in danger. Pre emptive common sense is always the best safety net.   On another note if God forbid anything ever happened to me I would personally like to be remembered as a fallen woman and not as a trans related statistic. This is what I strive to be
    • Arya
      Here's an update: I think I have started my period some months ago. Every month, I get brown discharge from my genital area and the scars occur at the same time. I haven't told my parents about it. It seems so weird to tell them! I have also noticed another weird thing. During my mid cycle(ovulation time, probably) I always get a nosebleed. I checked the net and found that women with pcos have such nosebleeds whenever they ovulate. 
    • Charlize
      What i see in this story is alcohol.  Too often drink is involved problems aren't far behind. As an active alcoholic i got myself into trouble on several occasions.  Sobriety makes that much less likely today even though i have fully transitioned.   Hugs,   Charlize
    • Timber Wolf
      Good morning everyone,   Happy Birthday MSKT1998!🎂 Happy Birthday Arcis27!🎂 Hope you have a great day!   Lots of love, Timber Wolf 🐾
    • KymmieL
      I agree that you did the right thing. However if it escalates make sure you document every word this creep is saying. Then let law enforcement handle it. But be prepared to defend yourself if the need arises.   Kymmie
    • KymmieL
      50 pages of no drama, Yeah. Let's keep this thread going as we have just us being us and sharing our little corner of the world.   Kymmbrell Lorain
    • KymmieL
      I agree about being safe. Even though I am a Harley Davidson riding biker witch. I am not a drinker, the last drink I can remember was in 2006. I choose not to drink. I try not to frequent places where my safety would be at risk. But in this day and age, that could be anywhere from the local gas station to Wally world.   Be safe all.   Kymmie
    • Maid In Bedlam
      Be aware If your in the UK there is a shortage of estrogen products Mainly patches. But this will filter down to Pills etc very soon I believe as they precribe alternative products.   want to know more?   and from the beeb   I had my Patches restocked about 2 weeks ago. However this was a stuggle  I have been been given a few boxes of a diffrent brand and am still waiting from a phone call from the chemist to complete my order. So If you havent got them yet then be prepared for troubled waters for a while.   Not that im a pesamist but if the Goverment have got involved then i wouldnt hold your breath that we are going to see anything changing very soon.
    • Maid In Bedlam
      Ok I can update on this now. After all the tests.   Which were. Many Blood tests. Mainly blood work etc. Iron Studies Ultrasound of my upper abdomin. Checks Liver, Stomach, Gall Bladder, Kidneys, Etc etc   In a nutshell.   Yes HRT Can potentially raise ferritin levels Thats from my gender therapist not i just pulled it out of google. Mine are raised. However Not by much. At least nothing to be concerned about. Being honest depending on where you go Mine could read normal. But in the NHS scale im about 100 higher than i should be. Which in reality is very little considering you would only have a problem if you was over the 1500's   My iron is normal just the ferritin is raised which as stated above could be hrt However it could also be i did exercise after toast with a big dollop of marmite.   Yes I love marmite.   So it would appear im out of the woods. So your stuck with me for a little longer.
    • Sharon Aml
      Hi  I hope as your journey begins you find that peace that we on the same journey have found. As I started my HRT it confirmed everything for me. It was like driving a car that you drove all your life it’s all you knew. All of a sudden someone puts the gasoline in instead of diesel fuel the car runs better than before               If it’s truly your path you will know just take things one day at a time                       Best of luck to you                              Sharon Aml
    • Maid In Bedlam
      I ask this question. I assume in the picture is the transsexual woman in question. In my opnion there is nothing there to openly give away that she was anything else other than a woman. Therefore how did this attacker know she was a Transsexual?  Attacks physically or verbally on anyone is very wrong regardless but why was she singled out? I also note the article is very poorly written. Im no Grammer expert. Far from it But theres a big diffrence between Cheese cakes and Pea cakes. I would assume this is a translation error. However It would have been nice to have been proof read before publication (Thats something the daily mail wouldnt do) I noticed also it doesnt give her name. Which to me seems strange as shes happy to share her picture.  Btw its nice to see someone other than me still use the word Transsexual in there describrition. I was under the impression that this word was only used to describe Dinosaurs and people like me. So yay if its making a comeback     So Malta gay Rights movement Ask these questions. Why is the alledged perpertrator got his face pixelated. Name and shame.  If he did whats alledged. This is a way to catch him i would have been inclined to think. So he could be punnished for this alledged  crime. If a crime has happened. Your not gonna catch him if you cannot identify him. Msida only has a population of 8,545  or there abouts he wont be to hard to find.   It doesnt sway from the fact. LETS ALL BE CAREFULL OUT THERE.  Dont put yourself in a postion where you dont feel you can not remove yourself from with haste. Stay safe
    • Maid In Bedlam
      One sided story. Its a Media thing. It makes news to portray the trans person as the one that was the victim. I would really like to know what happened before they was chucked out. Was it justified?  They never told you the reasons and what was said. All you see is people being thrown out. Wheres the interview with the straight hetro couple. My god why so many labels? It wouldnt have made the news if they wasnt trans. If they had not had such a heavy drinking session as Vicky highlighted then perhaps this wouldnt have happened. It was noted the amount of booze was flowing. I know women that butter wouldnt melt in there mouths. if they are sober but get a drink in them and they are like wild banshees. Me personally if i have had one to many ill just giggle a lot and smile like a chesire cat   I will grant you they was a little heavy handed.  Surely thats assault. Maybe the trans group should seek legal advise instead of protesting?
  • Upcoming Events

×
×
  • Create New...