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Guest kirsty

As some of you know I am a transitioning MTF transsexual, although I prefer the term transgendered :D But I wanted to share some things and also find out if others are the same as me.

Basically, from an early age I new I was suffering with gender dysphoria (probably spelled wrong sorry) and as I got older into teen life I noticed that things were physically different with my than with others that were my age. This was especially noticeable during puberty. One of the main things I noticed was the lack of any hair growth anywhere other than in the genital region. I never developed any hair under my arms or on my legs or even on my face. And to this day things are still the same. I still have completely smooth hairless legs, under arm and no facial hair either.

No don't get me wrong I am more than happy with this, it means I will not have the problems that others have, especially where the facial hair is concerned. By the way I am 26, so I am definitely did Finnish puberty, at least i think i did. I just wondered if this is something others have encountered or whether I am an exception? I also have breasts, not so much in the way that born females have, but they have always been there.. I am a little chubby so that explains it a little, but even when I was younger and not chubby I still had these very prominent breasts that caused me a lot of bullying during school.

I just wondered if anyone can relate to any of this?

Kirsty :rolleyes:

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for me is was the opposite

and it had been suggested i have a natural high level of T

you on the other hand may have a natural high level of E

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Well Kristy,

That isn't exactly common but a lot of us do have less hair, I wonder if you have very much Asian or Native American blood in your family history, both groups (probably related due to the land bridge that used to exist between Asia and North America - one scientific model) have a noticeable reduction in body and facial hair.

A lot of young men begin to develop female like breasts before the Testosterone finally kicks in.

Seems like you are lucky.

Love ya,

Sally

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Guest April63

Good news: you spelled gender dysphoria correctly!

Not so good news: There's not so much I can add.

American Indians and Asians do tend to have less body hair. I know a lot of the Indians have none at all. But I don't know if that applies to you at all. If it doesn't or even if it does, perhaps you have higher estrogen levels, or maybe you just willed it to happen.

April

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Guest kirsty

I don't think I have any American Indian or Asian in me. As far back as I know all my family came from the North of England. I guess I should just think myself lucky really. I just thought maybe this was common though :unsure:

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Guest ~Brenda~

Hey Kirsty,

I think it is so wonderful that you don't have to worry about shaving!!! What a pain shaving can be (especially when you are in a hurry). I have had similar experiences where only the particulars differ. I am small and very thin (always have been since childhood). I was called "femme" in elementary school (by both the guys and the girls). I think, sometimes bio-girls can be more harsh to MTFs than any other group (just my rambling thoughts). Boobs? yeah got those too.

LOL

bernii

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Guest Lisa marie

Yup can relate alot , 28 now and just got some slight hair growth on my upper lip gah, was hoping i had dodged a bullet there but nope.

The rest took forever to, always wondered about it really. i lean a bit more to the androgyne side than mtf tho.

Lisa

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Guest Donna Jean

For an MTF having facial hair can be a HUGE problem and embarrassment! Some can shave really close and have 5 o'clock shadow at noon, just awful...

In these cases electrolysis is the best answer (or Laser hair remover)....

That's what I'm doing..

Although I'm part Amerind (Cherokee) I still need to shave every two days and I could probably get by with that...but I won't..

I want it all GONE..

But if facial hair begins to be thicker or less thick.....it most likely is a result of some sort of hormonal change...

It would be wonderful if HRT would stop facial hair, but it won't...we must handle that ourselves!

So, Sophie....you're a very lucky girl, not to have developed any real body or facial hair...good for you!

HUGGS

Donna Jean

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Guest Elizabeth K

Yes - me exactly - I am age 61 - it SLOWLY caught up with me - but I STILL bave almost no beard and very little body hair - donno - like Donna Jean, I am 1/16t or 1/8th depending on the story. but other than the high cheek bones I don't think I carry that much Amerind.

We may be slightly intersexed. My therapist says that - see how quickly you respond to HRT. I won't need FFS.

Hope this helps

Lizzy

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Guest Paula :)

Honey I would say you are more than likely XXY.

You can have a chromosome test to determine if you are. Here, in Australia, the test is expensive (around $500 from memory) and isn't covered by the Government Medicare health system.

I had the test around 9 months ago now, and discovered I was XXY. It answered so many questions for me, and helped me immensely come to terms with my femininity.

Don't take my word for it as I'm in no way a medical professional, however your 'symptoms' for want of a better term do sound like what I have read about the condition. :)

Take care,

Paula.

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Guest Joanna Phipps
I don't think I have any American Indian or Asian in me. As far back as I know all my family came from the North of England. I guess I should just think myself lucky really. I just thought maybe this was common though :unsure:

There is almost nobody from Europe who doesnt have Hunnic blood in them, courtesy of Atilla and co. I am originally from Wilts and noticed it with one of my kids who was born looking like a lil Indian.

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Guest BriannaM

My grandmother was full blood indian, so i have been blessed by the lack of much body hair, the face almost. In fact has irritated my wife for yrs, that she had to shave more often than i did, and now that im on blockers, she probably shaves twice to my once.

Best part about the lack of body, dont have to go thru all the pain and expense of electro, when get done with my face, will only have to shave as often as GG, or less.

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Guest gentleman1

It is possible that you have partial or complete(?) Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome, (AIS). You should inquire about this to your doctor. If this is so, you may actually be intersexed as well and this may account for alot for you. Since you are MTF, you are very lucky and blessed! I'm happy for you. Take care!

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Guest gwenthlian

Ive got many of the things you describe, lack of body hair etc, no breasts but there we go ^^. Partial androgen insensitivity syndrome would be displayed more dramatically, what you may have though is kleinfelters (XXY). Im currently trying to get a karyotype test to work out whether I have this paticular syndrome, perhaps you should to?

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Just tossin my 2 cents in the pool....

I am 1/4 Native American (Lenape) and was as blond as blond gets when I was little. I'm mostly grey now, but my legs, arms and face have always stayed very fine blond. The rest of my body is as bare as the day I was hatched. I only need to do my legs about once every 2 weeks, just to get the fuzz off. My face I can get away with about once a week. I have not had any testing done yet, so I don't know if there are any issues contributing to this. I think you are very lucky and wouldn't really worry about it. Consider it a plus and roll with it!!

Love

Kacee

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As some of you know I am a transitioning MTF transsexual, although I prefer the term transgendered :D But I wanted to share some things and also find out if others are the same as me.

Basically, from an early age I new I was suffering with gender dysphoria (probably spelled wrong sorry) and as I got older into teen life I noticed that things were physically different with my than with others that were my age. This was especially noticeable during puberty. One of the main things I noticed was the lack of any hair growth anywhere other than in the genital region. I never developed any hair under my arms or on my legs or even on my face. And to this day things are still the same. I still have completely smooth hairless legs, under arm and no facial hair either.

No don't get me wrong I am more than happy with this, it means I will not have the problems that others have, especially where the facial hair is concerned. By the way I am 26, so I am definitely did Finnish puberty, at least i think i did. I just wondered if this is something others have encountered or whether I am an exception? I also have breasts, not so much in the way that born females have, but they have always been there.. I am a little chubby so that explains it a little, but even when I was younger and not chubby I still had these very prominent breasts that caused me a lot of bullying during school.

I just wondered if anyone can relate to any of this?

Kirsty :rolleyes:

Rings a bell here. I did some body examination last week, and (might sound odd) but I never payed attention too, I thought every guy was the same as me. WRONG. I learn more each day that I have female bodily traits.

My list so far:

- also had breast formation, almost AA without being overweight

- breast areola is 3.5mm diameter (0.5 mm larger than average girls) if breast grow further (which it will on hormones) I will get bigger still.

- angle in my arms, unable to close them when handing.

- I always had hips.

- Adams apple not visible

- Do have a body to train, but never gained any serious muscle.

- I suffer from lipoma's (most common in girls)

- Always had sleek arms, sleek hands (piano hands :)

- Long eye lashes

- nice natural cheek/blush

- big eyes

- etc.

Well what can I say, reading this back I think no-one ever took a good look at me and said that I might have a female body LOL. WOW were people blind around me? ^_^

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Sorry I meant:

3.5 CM diameter (0.5 CM larger than average girls)

instead of:

- breast areola is 3.5mm diameter (0.5 mm larger than average girls) if breast grow further (which it will on hormones) I will get bigger still.

...would be very small lol :P

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Guest Joanna Phipps
I don't think I have any American Indian or Asian in me. As far back as I know all my family came from the North of England. I guess I should just think myself lucky really. I just thought maybe this was common though :unsure:

I, too, am and Expat Brit, it is quite likely you have asian blood thanks to Ghengis Khan and the Moguls who stomped all over Europe.

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Well we are all assembled just a bit differently in terms of secondary gender-related characteristics. How I got body hair (which I have to manage with a riding lawn-mower!!) and natural c-cup female breasts is a mystery to me. In my high school senior photo I totally looked like a girl with a boy's haircut.

ricka

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My partner isn't female, but is genderqueer. They have a lot of traits that only females in their family have, they aren't tall, they don't have much facial or body hair, etc. They're a bit overweight so their breasts might just be the "man boobs" that overweight men get, but they seem to be actual breast tissue and dont' shrink nomatter how much weight they lose. They're also so androgynous that all they have to do is let their hair down to look like a girl, or tie it into a pony tail to look like a boy. While that'd probably be awful for a cisguy, they've actually got a much easier to deal with body than they could've. So it does happen, definitely. I, however, am too dang female for my own good.

Since some people think that gender/orientation is at least partially caused by the hormones you're exposed to in the womb, so a person who has higher estrogen levels (male-born) or testosterone levels (female born) might be more likely to be transgendered. Obviously not all transpeople are like that, so it's not the only factor. But I agree that it's a bit of luck given the situation, so even if there is a cause it's not like it's a bad thing.

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Since some people think that gender/orientation is at least partially caused by the hormones you're exposed to in the womb, so a person who has higher estrogen levels (male-born) or testosterone levels (female born) might be more likely to be transgendered. Obviously not all transpeople are like that, so it's not the only factor. But I agree that it's a bit of luck given the situation, so even if there is a cause it's not like it's a bad thing.

I just kinda suspect hormone level balance between oestrogen/testestorone......as a male in a female body, i have hairy legs and arms, and muscled like legs with broad sholders , it didnt help that i played soccer, so i got laughed at by girls at my girls high school a lot, which i suspect is thankfully T's work, at the same time O decided to curse me with large ummm bags and other stuff,so you can imagine looking a little bit she/he ...so yeah i definately think that if u are hairless it might just be you O in u saying something here... :D

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