Jump to content
  • Welcome to the TransPulse Forums!

    We offer a safe, inclusive community for transgender and gender non-conforming folks, as well as their loved ones, to find support and information.  Join today!

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

*~Milo~*

Surgery and Transitioning

Recommended Posts

*~Milo~*

Hello, I am nonbinary transmasculine, I prefer the pronouns they/them but also use he/him. I am okay with presenting masculine or adrogynous. I have a lot of dysphoria issues - I have never taken hormones or puberty blockers. The only thing I take is a birth control pill to stop my periods which a doctor prescribed to me because before I would stop my periods by not eating. Anyway my breasts are much smaller now however they are still there and, biologically speaking, my body is still 100% female, so eating causes me to have panic attacks sometimes. Furthermore, I am very self-conscious about how high my voice is and the fact that it is a dead giveaway that makes it hard to pass, so I kind of haven't been talking for a while. This is a little problematic and my family is getting sort of fed up with my habits so here's what I'm trying to figure out:

1. What are the steps involved in getting top surgery? If I were to begin now, about how long would it take until I can have surgery?

2. How much would surgery cost/ what would be the smartest way to begin saving up for surgery?

3. What would taking testosterone supplements do for my voice? I am apprehensive of doing full testosterone therapy because I am aware of how erratic its effects can be and I feel reluctant to start growing facial hair. I also am unable to do blood work regularly, and I've been told that taking T requires consistent blood draws. 

Any help and information would be very much appreciated, thank you

Share this post


Link to post
Jani

Hello Milo and welcome to TransPulse.   There are a number of guys here that will hopefully stop by soon to discuss numbers 1 and 2 since I really cannot address them.  

Testosterone will cause your voice to eventually drop.  It won't be immediate but it will happen.  I don't know how erratic T is on a AFAB body, never hearing of issues, but it is a very strong hormone.  The effects seem to be stronger than those that us on estrogen experience.  This is just my experience from interacting and talking with my trans guy friends.  Hair growth is also something that will also be based on your genetics.  For example, I was AMAB and males in my family are average concerning hair, yet I have no body hair and (had) a light beard.  Somewhere in my family was someone like me.    

I won't say blood tests are constant but when you start HRT there is the need to establish your baseline levels and to see where the dose you are prescribed ends up.  A low dose may provide what you need mentally/emotionally but not provide much physical change.  You only know by trying.  Eventually the testing will even out.  

Good luck and I'm glad you're here.

Jani

Share this post


Link to post
Dev

Welcome, Milo!

As Jani did, I'll defer to the guys in the forum on points one and two, except to say that generally surgeons will require a letter from a therapist giving the okay for surgery before they'll operate.  I'm also in Idaho, and I haven't heard of anyone in the state who does things by informed consent.

Testosterone will probably give you the changes to your voice you're looking for, but it's a mixed bag - HRT either way has all the effects of puberty; it looks like you're aware there's no picking and choosing.  Just as with those born AMAB, introduction of testosterone could affect your voice slightly or significantly or somewhere in between.  All part of the vagaries of the human condition.

You're welcome to come into our chat room and ask these questions to the gentlemen who hang out in there as well.  Right this minute I see three who I know have at least started the process, and we have several others at different times of day.

Again, welcome!

Share this post


Link to post
*~Milo~*

 

56 minutes ago, Jani423 said:

Hello Milo and welcome to TransPulse.   There are a number of guys here that will hopefully stop by soon to discuss numbers 1 and 2 since I really cannot address them.  

Testosterone will cause your voice to eventually drop.  It won't be immediate but it will happen.  I don't know how erratic T is on a AFAB body, never hearing of issues, but it is a very strong hormone.  The effects seem to be stronger than those that us on estrogen experience.  This is just my experience from interacting and talking with my trans guy friends.  Hair growth is also something that will also be based on your genetics.  For example, I was AMAB and males in my family are average concerning hair, yet I have no body hair and (had) a light beard.  Somewhere in my family was someone like me.    

I won't say blood tests are constant but when you start HRT there is the need to establish your baseline levels and to see where the dose you are prescribed ends up.  A low dose may provide what you need mentally/emotionally but not provide much physical change.  You only know by trying.  Eventually the testing will even out.  

Good luck and I'm glad you're here.

Jani

Thank you very much Jani for your reply, this was helpful. I didn't consider projecting how changes may work out based on genetics - these changes are pretty consistent for the males in my family in that they involve moderate amounts of facial hair. This is good to keep in mind and I think it's a good idea to try a low dose. I really appreciate your help~*

41 minutes ago, Dev said:

Welcome, Milo!

As Jani did, I'll defer to the guys in the forum on points one and two, except to say that generally surgeons will require a letter from a therapist giving the okay for surgery before they'll operate.  I'm also in Idaho, and I haven't heard of anyone in the state who does things by informed consent.

Testosterone will probably give you the changes to your voice you're looking for, but it's a mixed bag - HRT either way has all the effects of puberty; it looks like you're aware there's no picking and choosing.  Just as with those born AMAB, introduction of testosterone could affect your voice slightly or significantly or somewhere in between.  All part of the vagaries of the human condition.

You're welcome to come into our chat room and ask these questions to the gentlemen who hang out in there as well.  Right this minute I see three who I know have at least started the process, and we have several others at different times of day.

Again, welcome!

Thank you, Dev. I appreciate your help, any information about T is very much appreciated. Also, I am from Idaho as well and am aware that there are no surgeons who can help me out here, so I've been looking in other nearby states just to gather more information about how these operations work. Thank you also for directing me to the chat room, I had not considered asking for help there yet c: I'm sure I can find more useful advice there too, so thank you for your help~*

Share this post


Link to post
Dev

One other thing to consider, Milo.  Have you thought about getting a binder?  You can generally find a good one for under $40 and with proper care they last long enough to be worth the expense.  With a binder on, you'd still know your breasts were there, but your outward appearance would be more in line with what you'd like to present.

Share this post


Link to post
*~Milo~*
On 7/26/2017 at 5:52 PM, Dev said:

One other thing to consider, Milo.  Have you thought about getting a binder?  You can generally find a good one for under $40 and with proper care they last long enough to be worth the expense.  With a binder on, you'd still know your breasts were there, but your outward appearance would be more in line with what you'd like to present.

Thank you for this, I actually do wear a binder. The one I use now is the cheaper kind though I'm working on getting a proper one. The binder does help immensely, as in I can only eat when I have it on, but it only helps so much and sometimes I'll still panic even when I'm wearing it, but I'm still very grateful for it. Thank you for the advice~

Share this post


Link to post

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Who's Online   3 Members, 0 Anonymous, 59 Guests (See full list)

    • Amberlea
    • Cheyenne skye
    • Ellora
  • Who Was Online

    108 Users were Online in the Last 48 Hours
    • Amberlea
    • Cheyenne skye
    • Carolyn Marie
    • Ellora
    • Janeshannon
    • Alex C
    • Blair
    • Leo
    • Sandra6sandy9sand
    • NoNamePlease
    • KymmieL
    • ToniTone
    • Dev
    • Willa
    • MaryMary
    • michelle_kitten
    • Josie Beth
    • VickySGV
    • Astrid
    • Alixander
    • SaraAW
    • CharlotteVictoria
    • Topher
    • Kelva
    • MaryEllen
    • Amber Marie
    • Stevi
    • Jani
    • Laura Beth
    • Alaa
    • Kirsten
    • nitehwk
    • Susan R
    • EvanC
    • DeeDee
    • Amy LeBlanc
    • SugarMagnolia
    • reyindium
    • emoblitz00
    • DevilDog
    • Jocelyn
    • Kris-Boston
    • FrankyForNow
    • anna's mom
    • jo_g
    • sara albert
    • Petra Jane
    • MsLindaV
    • sophiegg
    • JuanMenendez813
    • Zoey
    • Carly Hughes
    • Bobbyd
    • Susan
    • Snow Princess Sophie
    • Maid In Bedlam
    • Alastair
    • Taja
    • Candymine
    • tapeleg42
    • Jackson Max
    • gaypricot
    • Clara84
    • Sadly Samuel
    • xDJx
    • Kate king
    • Cyndee
    • jae bear
    • AsTheCrow
    • Robin
    • Charlize
    • Timber Wolf
    • Tessa
    • Katy Ann
    • Rachael
    • CynthiaJames
    • CaraMC
    • Ronin82
    • tracy_j
    • Janae
    • Mackenzie Holiday
    • Arya
    • Anslee_24
    • Fish(i just want answers)
    • Cindy Truheart
    • figuringitout
    • Willow
    • galayogeda
    • Nichole Spencer
    • LotsOQs026
    • Ted
    • Lorry
    • paige_40s
    • Lexa83
    • Michelle F
    • Sandra's journey
    • gracey01
    • Wrightful
    • Mybuttlost
    • Dani1
    • Ashlee
    • killjoyaiden
    • Kole Rickard
    • Jennaroxie
    • Elyssia
    • Spyke01
    • lauraincolumbia
    • Yamel
  • Topics With Zero Replies

  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      68,129
    • Total Posts
      616,462
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      5,240
    • Most Online
      8,356

    Alixander
    Newest Member
    Alixander
    Joined
  • Today's Birthdays

    1. Chrystopher
      Chrystopher
      (23 years old)
    2. Elias
      Elias
    3. SighDraws
      SighDraws
      (26 years old)
    4. Taja
      Taja
      (42 years old)
  • Posts

    • Carolyn Marie
      If this policy is not blocked by the courts, the result will be more trans women murdered and assaulted.  If homeless trans folk cannot find shelter in an appropriate place, they will either live on the street, or seek housing in men's shelters, where they will be preyed upon.  But hey, trans folk are unimportant to this administration, so if more of us die, its no sweat off their backs.     Carolyn Marie  
    • Ellora
      TOns of nostalgia for sure! It’s funny how I can remember back to those days and what I was doing back then, who I was hanging with while I was playing. I started out PvP, but that’s cause the girl I was seeing at the time, played wow, and she is the one that got me to start. I don’t like pvp that much, cause I don’t enjoy getting ganked while I’m questing. It was kinda fun at Wintergrasp, and some battlegrounds. But it sucks questing alone. As for PvE, I don’t mind questing alone, but I do miss the Raids. My guild doesn’t have as many people as we used to, and I haven’t Raided with my old group forever. The new Characters are fun tho. Allied Races are a bit op at times, but I love it. Tell me if you ever start up again! We could quest together, and I could run you though some dungeons. 😊 
    • Alex C
      Hugs K 
    • Alex C
      thanks girls...very interesting observation 
    • Blair
      Hahah indeed ^ . ^ Cool though! Glad to have started when it came out as I really liked BC...though that could just be nostalgia talking 😄 Had a pretty cool soundtrack though that is for sure.
    • Josie Beth
      What really irritated me in a companion article was that he endorsed people with very slanderous views about lgbtq people. Including the one who compared the community to isis! Really? I’m sorry but I don’t see any lgbtq people driving around in US supplied tanks and armored vehicles going town to town and beheading people for disagreeing with them, or just for kicks. I don’t see any of us strapping bombs to ourselves and blowing up outdoor markets. I don’t see any of us demanding shariah law (well maybe a few odd cases but those are individuals) so it’s not a community platform. Maybe we can be seen as subversive to some who really think that we are a threat to how they choose to live but it’s really a delusion. The only thing I’ve seen at the core of the issue is the desire to be free and those who choose to impede that freedom. I really don’t think isis shares that point of view. To them freedom is one sided. Perhaps these idiots should look in the mirror and see how close they are in ideology to the middle eastern boogie man?
    • VickySGV
      The problem with impeachment is that the Senate is the jury that needs to convict him of the offenses, and we know that with McConnell in there, that will not happen, in fact McConnell can even refuse to have the matter heard there so impeachment will be hollow and ineffective.  Presenting the evidence during the campaign next year will hopefully make even Trumps devotees wake up and at least not vote for him. 
    • Astrid
      As Kirsten mentioned, a name of She will create attention toward you...for a variety of reasons.  Even non-judgmental folks may react with a bit of confusion.  And most folks, I suspect, would require an explanation first that you're using She as a proper name and not just a pronoun, before adjusting thereafter.  In other words, if you have a desire to "stop all the questions," an unusual name like that will not stop them.   Best of luck!   Astrid
    • Jani
      Great news Kirsten!  Did you think you'd be here one year ago???   Jani
    • CharlotteVictoria
      Weights? Like Dumbells and such :o? If so, what size (i have access to i think..they're 10lbs at the moment. Will those suffice?)?? I've done forward lunges before, but i tend to lose my balance and feel a strain in my feet, so i was never sure if i was doing them right, do you have any tips ;^_^? Don't want to get half way down and then go ALL the way down flat on my ass, you know xD? Resistance bands i do have. I have the "Spri" ones that are kinda like...wide and rectangular, do those work? 2 tbsp, got it! Thank you!!!! Ah, i did forget that. I heard about and witnessed the risk of mental instability when it came to hrt...which scares me....a lot...it wouldn't be an over-exaggeration to say i'm petrified of the idea...anything that can be done in that department? Classic saying, that. Which you're very right about xD! ? Off topic: Any idea how to edit posts? wanted to change something in my original one ;^_^...
    • Ellora
      I started around BC too. it isssss really addicting 😝
    • Carolyn Marie
      Welcome to Trans Pulse, hon, and thank you for sharing how you feel and what's going on in your life.  Keeping things inside is never a good thing, and you recognize that, which helps.  Opening up to us here, even if we're all relatively anonymous, is a step in the right direction.  I hope you continue to let us into your life, if even just a little, so we can offer whatever help that we can.  That's what we do around here; offer support, information, and a place to vent.  Anything you need from us, any time of day or night, someone will be here for you.   It gets better, hon.  It does.   HUGS   Carolyn Marie
    • Josie Beth
      It’s just another example of politicians bait and switch. And yes there’s too much petty “change things back” politics that have absolutely no bearing on the real issues he ran on. What about balancing the budget? Creating more jobs? Improving the quality of life for all Americans? For someone so persuasive about that it sure seems like he wants to exclude a growing segment of the population from those benefits. Isn’t personal bias supposed to have no place in executive decision? Shouldn’t it be impeachable to lie during campaign speeches or when bringing personal bias into the office of president?
    • Kirsten
      Add weights to your squats, and add in lunges. Forward and backwards. Also adding weights to those will help. Or resistance bands.  Be careful with peanut butter. It may be high in protein, but it’s also very high in fats. It’ll make you chunky before it makes you thick. I go by the rule of 2 tbsp of pb a day max.    I didnt notice anything mentioned about hrt either. That will do a good job of shaping yourself as well but it is all limited due to your genes too. Like the old adage goes.... You get what you get and don’t get upset. Cause it’s better than what you had rite?! 😜
    • Kirsten
      Like your actual first name will be She? That’s very interesting I guess. But it’ll create a lot of questions I’m sure.  I have a friend who changed her name to Mädchen when she transitioned. It means girl in German. We call her Maddie though. Maybe something like that could be an option as well. 
  • Upcoming Events

×
×
  • Create New...