Jump to content
  • Welcome to the TransPulse Forums!

    We offer a safe, inclusive community for transgender and gender non-conforming folks, as well as their loved ones, to find support and information.  Join today!

Nero Linguistic Programming, and general hypnosis questions


SandraG

Recommended Posts

So, I found a therapist, and went to my first appointment on Friday. I had a wonderful time, and really felt like she understood what I was going through and has helped many others through this as well.

She did mention one thing, though, that she emphasized was something that she did with some patients as needed and was available - but that she wouldn't push - that I'm completely unfamiliar with: Neuro Linguistic Programming. I'm a hypnosis skeptic, despite a fair bit of clinical evidence to the contrary, because I understand how the practitioner has far more influence in how these sorts of techniques work than most other techniques. I get the strong impression that she's strongly supportive of my transition, and sees zero issue with my wanting to remain with my wife through and after the transition (relationship drama with women has always been far easier to deal with when I'm in a relationship with a woman rather than a man... insert standard "the best thing about guys is their d*cks, the worst thing about guys is they're d*cks" joke), but... I'm still leery of someone rooting around in my subconscious.

I guess my big question is: does hypnosis actually work? Is it something that's helpful? Is Neuro Linguistic Programming something that is worth talking to my therapist about? What are the risks, and how can I make sure that I address them? How can I tell whether to do this or not?
 

Thanks all!

Sandra

Link to comment
  • Admin

If it is a form of hypnosis, it would never work with me, and I have been in environments where it was tried on me.  My ADD kicks up a fuss when it tries to give the attention span and concentration that is required for it to be of any benefit.  I cannot speak for others, but if you are skeptical of it, you would most likely be a poor candidate.

 

It is likely that you do have issues that need care along with your Gender Dysphoria and some of them may be painful to deal with, but will help you later in your program if they are dealt with.  As you can see, I had GCS 5 years ago and the GD was generally made livable in the process, but I had submerged other issues that had been there alongside of GD, and in the excitement of early transition was able to pretend they were not there.  After things settled down and Transition was no longer the push, the other items came back and really slugged me hard.  I ended up with a therapist for several months to catch up on old work,  

Link to comment
Just now, VickySGV said:

After things settled down and Transition was no longer the push, the other items came back and really slugged me hard.  I ended up with a therapist for several months to catch up on old work,  

 

I'm really trying to address my other issues (bipolar and AS) at the same time, so this doesn't come up as strongly after. I think my therapist was surprised that I didn't consider my GD my most immediate issue, but I think she understands a bit more after our meeting. I don't want to stall out on my transition (neither does my wife or my therapist), but I consider these issues to be getting in the way of my transition, not things to put on the back burner.

Thanks for the feedback on NLP. I'm skeptical, but am willing to try. My main concern isn't that it WON'T work, it's that I don't know how to ensure that the hypnosis (of whatever technique) is properly constructed and applied. I spent 9 months in a monastery, and enjoyed it, so the patient focus is something that I am OK with... I'm just trying to make sure I protect myself.

Link to comment

I did a quick search on google scholar on NLP, as I'd never heard of it before. At a cursory glance, I couldn't find anything listed in any reputable medical or psychological journals that I know of. I did find one systematic review of several articles from databases I'm familiar with. They basically concluded that there was not enough evidence that NLP  improves health outcomes in any way. They note that there isn't much research out there on NLP, and what's out there is not always set up well enough for the data to be useful, so more good research would shed light on the subject. Very important to take into consideration that "risk of bias across all studies was high or uncertain"

 

http://bjgp.org/content/62/604/e757.short

 

My two cents: I think it's a bunch of woo with no real evidence to back it up. It may help those who really believe in it, but probably more because they want it to work than because it's actually *doing* anything. My therapist is super into all those woo things, and I've found that just saying "thanks, but I'm not interested in exploring that" has worked for me. If it's something you decide to try, I'm not sure if it's possible that somebody could do it "wrong" and cause harm, but my gut instinct is to say no? I just keep imagining trying to keep from laughing if my therapist tried to hypnotize me! 

 

All in all, I wish you the best of luck in navigating everything. I think you're right that GD isn't necessarily the most immediate issue if your bipolar and AS are making it hard to address the GD. I hope you and your therapist find something that works well for you! <3 

Link to comment

Thanks! That's basically what I was seeing as well, and it sounds like it's something that she does only if it sounds like the person is receptive to it. Definitely not something that she was necessarily even suggesting was a good fit for me, just laying out the options that she's familiar with. It's not that I don't believe hypnosis works, or that I don't want it to work, but... looking at all the crazy stuff that came out in the 90s with mis-applied hypnosis causing lots of people problems, I think I'll take a pass.

That's a great summary! Thank you!

Link to comment

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Who's Online   2 Members, 0 Anonymous, 88 Guests (See full list)

    • VickySGV
    • Maddee
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      80.7k
    • Total Posts
      768.3k
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      12,023
    • Most Online
      8,356

    Delaney
    Newest Member
    Delaney
    Joined
  • Today's Birthdays

    1. Dillon
      Dillon
    2. Kaylee888
      Kaylee888
    3. lily100
      lily100
      (39 years old)
    4. Luce
      Luce
      (44 years old)
    5. Luke.S
      Luke.S
  • Posts

    • KayC
      @Mia Marie I agree that it seems most of the focus is on Trans Youth.  And maybe that is in part because of protecting Trans Youth from the political environment, and to give them a chance to transition at an earlier age.  Many of our generation have been cloistered for most of our lives by societal exceptions and I think that has made it more difficult to be Visible ... until Now. So I guess my answer is ... Be Visible and seek out, or even start, support groups in your local area.  Planned Parenthood does provide Gender Affirming Care and therapy in most U.S. regions (and they take Medicare!). 
    • KayC
      As a registered CA voter I would be HAPPY to vote against this bill ... BUT as @Carolyn Marie mentioned it has little chance to make the ballot.  Hopefully this will put the Death Knell on the bill.   wrt Parents Rights of notification.  I would agree if there was potential harm to a child, or if the child was involved in potentially harming somebody else.  BUT, that would not be the case in the preponderance of situations.  The decision to Come Out to one's own parents should be up to the individual child only.  If the child does not feel Secure or Safe in their household then it should not be up to the State or School to make that determination. If the child did feel safe and secure they would have probably already come out.  If they haven't ... then the situation seems obvious.  Protect the Child, not the System.
    • KayC
      Great news!  We ARE starting to receive more public support and visibility in opposition to these types of horrendous and wasteful bills.
    • KayC
      Nice to meet you @mattie22 , and Welcome! Your feelings are very normal.  I felt much the same at the beginning of my Journey.  But, in fact it is a 'journey' that is unique to each of our individual lives.  There is not a specific or pre-determined destination.  That's up to you to discover as you find your way. You already received some great Encouragement here.  I hope stay with us, and you will both discover and contribute.  Deeps breaths ... one step at a time
    • KayC
      Fortunate we have some Gatekeepers out there still.
    • Davie
      Incredible news for transgender and abortion providers and patients in Maine. Despite violent threats, Gov. Janet Mills of Maine has signed a sanctuary bill into law. It even enshrines WPATH Standards of Care as protected by Maine.   https://twitter.com/ErinInTheMorn/status/1782894991368462520/photo/1
    • Davie
      Incredible news for transgender and abortion providers and patients in Maine. Despite violent threats, Gov. Janet Mills of Maine has signed a sanctuary bill into law. It even enshrines WPATH Standards of Care as protected by Maine.   https://twitter.com/ErinInTheMorn/status/1782894991368462520/photo/1
    • RaineOnYourParade
      Basically my only source of validation is from close friends who know I'm trans 😅   I'm not a very masculine-looking guy in general, and I've had to stop binding due to pain, so strangers and physical validation aren't things I can get. My family still uses she/her pronouns and female terms with me, so there's not much validation at home, either.   I'm grateful I have friends that are willing to use my pronouns and such, though. It makes me feel a lot better.
    • Abigail Genevieve
    • violet r
      This is a question I ask myself all the time. When I'm out I hope that I can some what pass
    • violet r
      I use my  chosen name online and when ever I can. I play some online game and only go by that name. That is how everyone there know me. Yes it does feel great to be called the name you prefer. 
    • Breezy Victor
      I was ten years old when my mom walked in on me frolicking around my room dressed up in her bra, panties, and some pantyhose. I had been doing this in the privacy of my bedroom for a little while now so I had my own little stash box I kept full of different panties, bras, etc ... of hers. My mom's underwear was so easy for me to come by and she was a very attractive woman, classy, elegant. Well when she walked in on me, she looked at me with disgust and said to me... "If I wanted to run around like mommy's little girl instead of mommy's little boy, then she was going to treat me like mommy's little girl."  She left my bedroom after telling me NOT to change or get dressed or anything and returned with a few of her work skirts and blouses and such. She made me model off her outfits for her and I have to admit ... I LOVED EVERY SECOND OF IT. I felt so sexy, and feminine. And she knew I loved it.  She told me we can do this every weekend if I'd like. It would be OUR little secret. 
    • awkward-yet-sweet
      The usual social ways, of course.  Taking care of my partners and stepkids, being involved in my community.  That makes me feel good about my role.   As for physical validation and gender... probably the most euphoric experience is sex.  I grew up with my mother telling me that my flat and boyish body was strange, that my intersex anatomy was shameful, that no man would want me. So experiencing what I was told I could never have is physical proof that I'm actually worth something.  
    • KathyLauren
      <Moderator hat on>  I think that, at this point we need to get the thread back onto the topic, which is the judge's ruling on the ballot proposition.  If there is more to be said on the general principles of gendered spaces etc., please discuss them, carefully and respectfully, in separate threads. <Moderator hat off>
    • Abigail Genevieve
      People who have no understanding of transgender conditions should not be making policy for people dealing with it. Since it is such a small percentage of the population, and each individual is unique, and their circumstances are also unique, each situation needs to be worked with individually to see that the best possible solution is implemented for those involved. 
  • Upcoming Events

Contact TransPulse

TransPulse can be contacted in the following ways:

Email: Click Here.

To report an error on this page.

Legal

Your use of this site is subject to the following rules and policies, whether you have read them or not.

Terms of Use
Privacy Policy
DMCA Policy
Community Rules

Hosting

Upstream hosting for TransPulse provided by QnEZ.

Sponsorship

Special consideration for TransPulse is kindly provided by The Breast Form Store.
×
×
  • Create New...