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Cat28

My partner of 13 years is questioning their gender. This has come as a shock to me given we have been together for so long (I haven't seen any signs or hints towards this; it's been hidden well). They didn't speak to me about this, but rather confided to friends they met online from different countries - I stumbled across the chat logs. I have "confronted" them and it's out in the open now. I use the word confronted as at the time I was in a great deal of shock. It came completely out of the blue for me. 

 

To me, they are still the same person I fell in love with. I didn't marry a gender. But going forward I am not sure what it means for either of us. They are very confused at the moment as it being out in the open with me has come a bit sooner than planned and they are not entirely sure how they feel about themselves at the moment. 

 

I am hoping there might be others who have been in the same situation that can offer some insight? I understand all relationships are different but I guess I'm looking for reassuramce that we can get through this. We also have young children.

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VickySGV

Last night I was with a large group of my Trans "chosen family" and in the group are three couples where one partner is Out Trans and the other a Cis person.  One of the three couples also has a child who is Trans as well.  They have good, loving, relationships and are obviously partners in life with each other.  Yes, there will be changes in the relationship, and you will both have a period of time where you are grieving the loss of the first expected relationship and will be exploring a changed relationship.  You will still be the same basic people to each other, but now your partner will actually be showing the underlying person who was behind a defensive wall.

 

Trans people do try almost too hard to be the person that people have expected them to be, and have done an award worthy run of acting for most of their lives, but all acting reaches an end.  For now, simply being there for your partner, and maybe not even talking about it, other than as they feel like it is best.  Long on hugs, short on words!  BOTH of you should look for counseling by a therapist who is familiar with Gender issues, both as a couple and separately.  BIG issue is to let the past be the past, and see if you can give up some things from it and welcome the new and exciting things you never imagined.  The relationships that fail are the ones where one partner insists on keeping the past on a variety of excuses which generally indicate that the relationship was on far less than perfect ground.

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Kirsten

You can most definitely get through this together! I personally know 3 couples that have survived transition and are living their lives as fully as ever. I know many more in the midst of transition who are doing their best to stay a unit as well. And even more online from forums and other social media just like this one! 

 

I can’t comment on how others are staying together, but for my partner and I, it’s pretty simple. Open dialogue. Plain and simple. It is so important to be open and honest with each other. 99% of the issues can be overcome by talking about what’s going on, the next steps to come, and what is expected from each of you. Do we still have problems? Yes most definitely. Are there issues we haven’t figured out? Absolutely but we are always trying to figure out how to work through these things. 

 

But the honest truth is that there can be insurmountable obstacles such as gcs and sexuality that you should be aware of as well. Everyone is different and things can just not work. But the connection and the love that’s there to begin with, doesnt have to end. 

 

Things change. People adapt. The biggest and best thing you can do is support your partner and be their for them when they need you. Stay open to new situations. And be honest about everything! And they need to return that favor to you as well because this is not just a 1 person transition. It’s a transition for everyone. 

 

I hope things work work out well for you! There’s a lot of help and support on this forum as well. 

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Cat28

Thank you for the replies. It's reassuring others have been in this position and have come through the other side with their relationship in tact. 

 

I guess one of my fears right now is if/when my partner transistions, what if I am no longer sexually attracted to them. I can definitely appreciate the female body, and will briefly "check out" a good looking/hot/attractive female, but I have never considered myself a lesbian. I feel selfish for even thinking like this as my partner is going through so much coming to terms with their own gender and identity and I'm making it about me. 

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VickySGV
7 hours ago, Cat28 said:

but I have never considered myself a lesbian.

 

Most of the Cis spouses I know share your orientation there and what happens is that your ideas of physical intimacy morph from binary to simply enjoying the new and probably improved emotional closeness and letting it lead to physical contact between the two of you that may not be quite the old brand of "sex" but is pleasant for the two of you.  You can be straight and still enjoy full bodily intimacy.   When my friends are INAPPROPRIATELY questioned about their sex life, they just tell the really pesky intruder that they are still straight but have a partner too good to not keep, and for the other person to just mind their own dirty mind.

 

Being Trans is NOT about your sexual attraction and I am sure your partner is worried about this as well, deeply and lovingly worried ABOUT YOU!  It is fine for you to make YOU about YOU and is helpful in the long run.  I think I may have recommended gender counseling for BOTH of you and this is one of the issues for you to deal with.  It takes two emotionally healthy people to make a relationship that works.

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SugarMagnolia
7 hours ago, Cat28 said:

Thank you for the replies. It's reassuring others have been in this position and have come through the other side with their relationship in tact. 

 

I guess one of my fears right now is if/when my partner transitions, what if I am no longer sexually attracted to them. I can definitely appreciate the female body, and will briefly "check out" a good looking/hot/attractive female, but I have never considered myself a lesbian. I feel selfish for even thinking like this as my partner is going through so much coming to terms with their own gender and identity and I'm making it about me. 


This can happen, Cat. My wife and I are working through this now. We don't have kids and so that makes things simpler. We will probably end up splitting up; however, we still love and care for each other a ton and for us it's just a question of understanding what each of us is comfortable with and what are boundaries are.

We will continue to support each other and be best friends, but for us the relationship has changed in a meaningful way particularly for my wife. My advice is to keep your lines of communication open, for both of you to get as much support as you need and to be as honest as you can about what/how you're feeling and what you want/need. 

I know a number of couples whose relationships have survived and thrived through transition, so it IS possible. Ultimately, you'll still both be the same people you always have been, but with some new facets to understand and come to terms with. 

Please keep us posted on how things are going and don't hesitate to reach out. We're here for everyone!

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Cat28

I've been reading a lot of the posts in this forum, not just in this section for partners but posts about transition and coming out, etc. I'm feeling very overwhelmed to the point I feel like I want to cry but I don't have the tears or energy. I feel tight in my chest and it just plain hurts! 

 

Things with my partner are really good at the moment. Prior to this news coming out we hadn't given ourselves and our relationship much time. We'd been busy with the mundane day-to-day activities of life with 4 young children. This has forced us to really concentrate on US. We are extremely close at the moment and showing each other a lot of love and affection. Things are good. Better than good. And it scares me greatly to think we could lose this. 

 

They say knowledge is power, so I want to learn as much as I can, but at the same time it's bringing on the overwhelming feelings. 

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Kirsten

Try to remeber that everyone’s transition story is different and unique to them and them alone. There are a lot of stories of transition here and some are very positive. Some are not. You make what you want of your story. You and your partner have all the control. If you work together it’ll work out well. What well means is in your hands. But it will be ok. 

And honestly, a lot of this process is really exciting and fun! I’ve had so many new exciting experiences as has my wife. She even runs a meetup group now for local trans spouses! And she loves giving back to the community! Even my older son has grown so much! And our family is so much more together than it ever has been. 

Dont get overwhelmed. Nothing you read here will necessarily happen to you. You decide your future. So just relax and support your family. It’ll be ok. 

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