Idaho Gov. Signs Two Anti-Trans Bills

[Carolyn Marie]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/31/us/idaho-transgender-bills/index.html

 

 

Carolyn Marie

[Lexi C]

Wow ALOU is right his action are ant- Trans. I just tried of the anti-trans movement that is swipe this land. every year more and more Anti-transgender hate group increase. Maybe its time we all buy gun just in case...Make me sick

[Susan R]

I lived in Idaho for 3 years in the seventies.  Liked it there well enough but I’m sure glad I wasn’t born there and glad I no longer live there these days—although these new laws wouldn’t affect me personally.  It still sets a poor precedent for the future of the state.  They’re moving in the wrong direction. It’s amazing how backward they are when compared to their neighbor Washington State.?

 

Susan R?

 

[Susan R]

2 hours ago, Suzanne1 said:

There are other variables that can impact competitiveness, and those variables are generally stacked against genetic-female atheletes in such circumstances.

This may be true but there’s still no definitive proof this is the case. If there was, the laws in this country would change very quickly everywhere and not just in Idaho and maybe a few other states.

I’m torn on this subject to be honest because I can clearly understand and see the arguments from both sides. I can’t rule out that there may be a possibility that this ‘Trans advantage and disadvantage’ issue is real.  Unfortunately, the sample size is just too small to say for sure there exists a clear advantage for trans women and a clear disadvantage for trans men.  Also, how can you quantify the “other variables” and measure the alleged advantage or disadvantage accurately?  They have no such tests available.  Most of the speculation has been hypothetical or unsupported by real facts or studies.  I’m not convinced there enough direct evidence to warrant schools and universities to stop all transgender children, teens, adults from competing in sports.  Many other states agree with that position.

I’ve never liked the idea of penalizing a person for being born transgender and banning them automatically from all physical sports or force them to compete in their gender at birth.  Trans individuals should be able to compete somehow on some level.  If there were enough trans individuals to compete against each other that might solve the problem but I doubt that would ever realistically be the case.

 

My 2¢,

Susan R?

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On 4/1/2020 at 10:53 AM, Suzanne1 said:

will not destroy an original birth certificate and replace it with a socially constructed one.

Every birth certificate is social constructed - it's writen by humans, who had determined what to call male and what to call women, based on biological limitations. Well, their tiny genital game is not applicable to everyone and that is what is hard to get. People are more than genitals and genitals are important as much as you want to pro-create, if you want and need to do it... Some piece of paper is not biological it's even offensive, because it describes your genitals to the world and yor genitals are all yours to deal or accept, not the society's business...

 

About sports: I don't like sport, but i know how lousy loser I was in it without having HRT at the time. So it's subjective. Woman can kick a man's buttocks, with no problems.