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FaceApp, where have you been all my life!!


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Heather Nicole

Ok, so I'm probably incredibly late to this, but this forum has just introduced me to the absurd wonders of FaceApp and I'm totally hooked!

 

Judging by what it thinks I looked like as a kid, I'm pretty well aware this software is far more for fun goofing around than it is for accuracy. But even still, the first time I gave it a selfie and hit the "Female" button, my heart instantly leapt straight out of my chest and I felt all fluttery for hours...That "photo" is now my profile picture :). (I swear, if I could look anything like that, I would come straight out to everyone, work, family and strangers, right now!, and have a name change application submitted within the hour!! (Ugh..if only I could decide on a name!))

 

Other top candidates include these works of deliriously intoxicating fantasy:

 

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Just as fun, although not half as pretty, is this amusing nightmare ;) :

 

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That one never stops cracking me up! :) I'll spare everyone the masculine one that makes me look like an unholy union between Santa Claus and my biological father! ;)

 

What cool images have other people come up with through this?

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Its The Mirror of Erised that App. I have spent hours under its spell.

 

(Apologies for the reference to She Who Shall Not Be Named)

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Yes, FaceApp was pretty much what set me over the edge from 'thought CDing would be the answer til the end' to 'must transition NOW'. 

 

Seeing 'myself' 'outside' did it. And seeing 'myself' in everyday mode as opposed to a made up for cocktail hour mode.

 

I use it now with the eraser function to see how the hair I'm growing out looks if my face was more feminine, do the gender swap and erase the hair it adds. 

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Ok so I am a FaceApp addict but, I wasn't sure how everyone looked at this kind of thing. I would say out of hundreds of them I have only really loved a couple. There is absolutely no chance I could ever look as good as this app makes me look. One thing I have found to be amusing as well is the fact that once in a while it will say I am female and offer to switch me to male. UH NO.... I am on the fence about sharing so please forgive me. I would love to share but, I have a feeling some people are bothered by this. I would love to hear opinions.

 

 

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ElizabethStar

I'm probably the only one who has a problem with faceapp. It's not a flaw of the app but how it could potentially make someone feel.

 

I admit that I use it, a lot, but the issues I see is with the gender swap feature. I caught myself using it to determine if I looked passing or not and that would set mood for the day. Sometimes I thought I looked really cute and femme but that app said "male". That put me in a very depressed state, feeling like I don't pass at all.

 

I quickly realized what was going on and am now careful when and how I use it but I see the potential for someone to do something rash because an app told them they weren't passing.

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Sally Stone

Liz,

 

You aren't the only one that has issues with an app like this.  And really, I don't mean to disparage anyone who uses it for entertainment.  While I think it can be entertaining, my worry is that I would rely on the result to affirm myself.  There is already so much pressure in our society to look a certain way.  If the world is going to see me the way I am in reality, I think I want to see myself the same way.  Now, if the app could look beneath the skin and see my inner beauty, that would be an app I might actually try. 

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@ElizabethStar and @Sally Stone, that is exactly why I said I am on the fence with sharing the pictures I have made of myself. @Heathick please do not take this as any kind of an attack on you or anyone that wants to share these. Like I said, I love this app. I just see how this could not only make some of us feel off for the day when we can't get the desired pick we want but, it could even make other people that are seeing these feel down too. I really am not meaning to harm your thread. I'm very sorry. 

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Heather Nicole
2 hours ago, Abi said:

@ElizabethStar and @Sally Stone, that is exactly why I said I am on the fence with sharing the pictures I have made of myself. @Heathick please do not take this as any kind of an attack on you or anyone that wants to share these. Like I said, I love this app. I just see how this could not only make some of us feel off for the day when we can't get the desired pick we want but, it could even make other people that are seeing these feel down too. I really am not meaning to harm your thread. I'm very sorry. 

 

OMG, no!, Don't worry or feel bad on my account!!! I totally get it!! (But, OMG, that's so sweet of you to worry about it!!!)

 

Hey, I'm still a total newcomer to all of this: these forums, the LGBT+ community, having the freedom to interact with wonderful people in a way that doesn't require me to subconsciously censor myself to adhere to masculine standards...and definitely also to FaceApp as well (I didn't even know it existed a week or so ago!, and I certainly never actually touched it until just the other day!) If anything, I worry about my naive enthusiasm for a sparkling new toy inadvertently tugging the wrong way on anyone's emotions. And when I first sensed there may be any hint of dissent about the app, I worried whether I should have even posted anything.

 

I kinda feel the same way, really. I'll admit, the first time I used it, I went straight for the "Female" button not really expecting much, and when I saw what it came back with (my current profile pic), my heart nearly leapt straight out of my chest and I felt all fluttery for hours! But it didn't take long for me to catch on that the images were most likely highly unrealistic (however intoxicating). I'd say my biggest clue was the fact that the app's "teen" and "child" age filters looked like stock photo models and nothing remotely similar to how I actually used to appear at those ages! ;)

 

So I totally get it, and I would never want to raise a topic that would make anyone here uncomfortable! You're all so kind, and warm, and genuine, and caring after all! Heck, I'm the who feels sorry for naively bringing up anything potentially sensitive or controversial!

 

TBH, I actually struggled a bit deciding whether or not to use the image FaceApp created for me as my profile pic. I ended up going with it, maybe selfishly, because I'm so in love with the idea of getting to be seen (even by myself) as anything similar to "her". But my hesitation, and I still worry about this, is giving anyone an unrealistic idea of potential real-world results. I was actually going to make a post in the "about the forum itself" section suggesting that maybe signatures should be displayed on user's profile pages (if technically feasible with this forum software). I modified my signature to hopefully make it clear that my profile pic isn't real, but then I noticed that when you visit this forum on a phone instead of a desktop browser, the signatures aren't shown...:(

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11 hours ago, ElizabethStar said:

I'm probably the only one who has a problem with faceapp. It's not a flaw of the app but how it could potentially make someone feel.

 

On the various sites I visit, your take is the majority position. Many of us are quite irate about FaceApp and the like, saying it's 'dishonest'. To me, it's not all that much different than wigs, padding and makeup. And for those in the closet apps can be a way to satisfy a need to see themselves the way they need to without risking whatever they're in the closet trying to protect.

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Late to the party but I have to tell you...I’m impressed with the technology used in this app. I downloaded this app tonight to check out this gender swapping capability it has. It is so impressive how the algorithm seems to work to switch, stitch and re-render everything so well.

 

I started out using my current avatar pic in my blue tie dyed tunic and did a gender swap. What came back was an image that looked very much like a Pre-HRT photo of me in from way back in 2003 but of course the female version was taken just recently. The image with me in the black shirt at the bottom was the pic taken in 2003.

 

Just thought i’d share something fun. Maybe some of you others could see if your gender swap looks like an old picture of you and if you do try it...post it if you’re comfortable sharing yourself in your previous gender.

 

Susan R🌷

 

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I enjoyed the whole part about coming out right away to everyone if you looked like that...it made me laugh.  I don't know FaceApp (yet), but who can't relate to that.

 

And the name thing is no small challenge.  I really struggled with it, for all kinds of reasons.

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Heather Nicole
5 hours ago, Ann Winslow said:

I enjoyed the whole part about coming out right away to everyone if you looked like that...it made me laugh.  I don't know FaceApp (yet), but who can't relate to that.

 

Aww, glad to hear :)

 

5 hours ago, Ann Winslow said:

And the name thing is no small challenge.  I really struggled with it, for all kinds of reasons.

 

Yup!

 

@Susan R: I hope I'm not crossing any lines by saying so, but FWIW, you look great in any gender!

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