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Biden Talked Trans Rights at Thursday's Town Hall

Carolyn Marie

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I am sorry if I disobeyed any of the rules of this amazing forum. I wish you could delete this full thread as some of the views I find wrong and politics does need to stay out. It is such a decisive topic and has no place here.

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      The issue here is not about the topic which i perceive as Biden speaking positively about trans rights.  As a trans person this policy is important to me and to any here who are transitioning or who may have plans to transition.  We often have posts here that relate to political policies affecting trans folks (we have a political forum for that reason).  Those are fine as long as we can keep the conversation civil and on topic.

      The feelings and expressions of political beliefs are extreme at this point.  Those extremes do not belong in this site.  We are here to support each other not to get into political arguments.





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While I do not offer my political perspectives, I enjoy reading all the posts here. Keep them coming, in a civil manner, of course 😉

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@MaryEllen for PRESIDENT❣️😊  Thank you!


14 hours ago, JillPilled said:

Because the U.S has lagged behind the rest of the world in this capacity, for its citizens, for years.

Agree, Jill!  I live in a country that has socialized medicine, and nobody has to worry about if they get sick what's going to happen to them or how they're going to be able to afford it.  Its a basic right of citizenship, and everybody pays their fair share.  

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I am also sorry if I offended anyone here.


I have friends on both sides of the fence.  I hate that there even is a fence. (In my family, we basically cancel each other out at the poles.)  As for the 'Rona, there's not much point in arguing over where or who it came from.  The thing is, it's here now, and we need to deal with it the best we can.  It's a pity it has been so politicized.


I already voted.  And I went in person.  And since I don't really "pass" at all, it was obvious that I was a transwoman.  I guess I just wanted to make a point.  For some reason that seemed important to me.


This election has been so depressing for me.  People are even going to court over which votes to actually count… Like, why?

And being stuck at home only makes it worse.

Sometimes I just want to "self-medicate" till it's over.

Just how I feel these days.

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9 hours ago, KayC said:

@MaryEllen for PRESIDENT❣️😊  Thank you!


She is actually higher here than president, the RED QUEEN is more like it.  (Bows low!!)


Imaginations and passions are running higher this year than any I can remember, and the internet and isolation has given rise to false information False Evidence Appearing Real (FEAR).  The same events carefully communicated by one person will be wholly acceptable to many more people than just an "inner circle" of policy and direction, but the same entire set of actions communicated poorly and only to "trusted disciples" from a different person will be condemned.  This will be my only post in this topic. It was a good topic though, and with the staff we have will be kept in social bounds.

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I appreciate all the civility here, and there's a lot that's been said I liked hearing. (Erm..."seeing"...)


I normally avoid political topics because I feel so strongly about certain things it can be difficult to keep emotion in check and not devolve into uncivil rule violations. I think I can manage that right at this moment, though. If I find I can't, I'll just delete without posting and keep my big fat mouth shut ;)


Just a couple misc points:


1. The idea of COVID being deliberate is quite a large claim. That's not to say it can't be true, but as per Occam's Razor, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I'd welcome being presented such evidence to evaluate, but all I've been able to come across so far has been hearsay from social media's siloed echo chambers and maybe one, and only one, news channel I won't specifically name that happens to be widely considered questionable. I would need much more than this to personally consider the claim plausible, let alone true.


2. I've noticed that most of the objections to socialism I've personally come across tend to fall prey to "slippery slope" usage which is a well known logical fallacy. Yes, the USSR does provide convincing evidence that a full-blown extremist form of 100% socialism is...uhhh...certainly quite problematic to say the very least. But there are other parts of Europe, Denmark especially, that provide living, breathing evidence that utilizing a mixed economy of partial socialism together with free market (which, btw, is also the US's model, just to a much lesser extent). Despite it's notable socialist side, Denmark has yet to fall apart or degenerate into Soviet-like extremism. And they have a lot less of certain problems that are prolific here in the states.


And I, for one, have never felt any particular need to be "number one!" in overall GDP, especially if it comes at the cost of other socio-economic problems. People matter more than money. And rather than partial socialism, I'm far more fearful of totalitarianism and loosing the very fundamental foundation the US was founded upon, the very reason for the first amendment: The right and ability to question leadership.


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@KayC That's good to hear that it's helping yourself, and yes maybe there's a lesson to be learned and things that could help if brought abroad to help people in more places too :D! We really should be all covering each others' backs in a sense by mutual support and funding, thank you KayC.  I wish or have been hoping here there could be more unity or table-side discussions here too, there's plenty of that on this compared to most communities and its really heartwarming! It's cool to get worldly input from all us who have common experience and identities--there's a shared experience there! :D


Also I just want to apologize, likewise,  if I've said or expressed anything divisive at all to any y'all--there is enough fear and anxiety about current affairs for all us here who are trans or nonbinary, genderfluid, bigender, that really we could stand to speak openly and still support one another which we direly need still. Civility is super nice/needed particularly now when tensions feel high just about everywhere else. I just repress a lot of political feelings, too on things I see at the cross-roads of my identity/experience and feel really concerned if I were to speak in public discussing politics in general. It can be nice to have a place to do so for sure here and I'd rather not lose that :). To return to the original topic, it's good to have some public-acknowledgement by a candidate on the presidential ballot like Biden. I'd hope it'd mean more change to help us, times are really uncertain now.

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