Did Et Make Me???

[Guest Zenda]

Kia Ora,

DISCLAIMER...

You can blame Astro Liz for this thread....

Science fiction or science fact[for some]???

Do any of you believe in extra terrestrials ??? and could it be possible ets had a hand in creating life on earth???

And as trans-people, are we just an experiment ???

Could it be possible???

Serious food for thought and perhaps a smile or two...

Metta Jendar

[Guest Joanna Phipps]

No we are the reason ET made nontrans people. He coulnt get his brain around us wanting genders other than the obvious. We were the originals

[Guest mia 1]

Kia Ora,

DISCLAIMER...

You can blame Astro Liz for this thread....

Science fiction or science fact[for some]???

Do any of you believe in extra terrestrials ??? and could it be possible ets had a hand in creating life on earth???

And as trans-people, are we just an experiment ???

Could it be possible???

Serious food for thought and perhaps a smile or two...

Metta Jendar

Any and all is possible when you have an open mind...... In this vast univerese why not......

[Carolyn Marie]

When I was young I believed in their existence. I even became a member of a couple of support groups.

But over the years I've become much more skeptical about the whole subject.

There may be some incidents that have yet to be explained, but a lack of explanation doesn't amount

to proof of anything in my book.

I always come back to this key question: If you were an alien race and came billions of miles through

space to this planet, why would you only make yourself visible to a few people at a time in the most

remote locations? Why not just land and announce yourself?

I am a firm adherent to the priciples of Occam's Razor. ET's don't pass Occam's test.

Carolyn

[Paula ult]

I have always believed that there are others out there and that if there is life here there surely there must be life somewhere else in the universe, and who is to say they are not much more advanced as we are, and there may be others that might not be as advanced as we are.

I do believe in god, but could god have been an alien?

The bible says god created the heaven and earth, and that we are created in his image, could that mean we are nothing more than a science experiment for an alien race out there and that once in awhile they come back to check on us to see how we are doing, and that us being trans is part of that experiment.

So many questions that will probably never be answered.

Paula who is an alien

[Guest Sarah]

considering the size of the universe (material wise, otherwise it's infinite in my opinion) there has to be other life, most probably simple lifeforms. but intelligent life? ofcourse, but do note that lot's of those existing lifes end because of a meteorite or there sun dying. so the chances for a lifeform to advance really far, needs some amount of luck, we're still lucky no meteorites hit us yet (again). all hail jupiter for that ^^ we're not advanced yet to escape such a disaster. maybe some species have, let's hope ^^

oh and they coming here? steven hawkins theories say that if you go faster than the light, you go back in time. but he also said it's impossible to do that. which make aliens coming here, to have at least mastered a speed close to light AND surviving all those years coming here. or they could bend space...

just my thoughts on it ^^

[Guest AshleyRF]

There likely is intelligent life out there somewhere. The vastness of the universe is so grand that non of us can even imagine how much is out there. We are less than a spec of sand on all of earths beaches compared to the vastness of the universe.

Do I think "we" are an alien experiment? Actually I think all humans are an alien experiment. Humans are the only things on earth who can not form a natural balance to their existence. We move into an area, overpopulate it, destroy the nature that was there, and use up all the natural resources and then we move on to new areas. I don't know of any other living thing that will willingly destroy it's on home other than a few viruses.

I have often wondered if aliens did not visit this planet many many moons ago and create humans as a cross between themselves and some animal that was currently here. Their reasoning behind doing this? My guess is that at the time, this planet was uninhabitable for them for some reason ( most likely because of our atmospheric gas composition). There is some resource that they want here, so their only option was to create us to slowly change the planet into something they could inhabit long enough to retrieve the resource they want.

Or maybe there is nothing else out there. Maybe we are completely alone is the universe. Maybe (for those of us who believe in her) God created all the universe just for us. Who knows what her plans are for us. Maybe she made all of this with the intentions that it will all benefit us one day.

[Guest Joanna Phipps]

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The bible says god created the heaven and earth, and that we are created in his image, could that mean we are nothing more than a science experiment for an alien race out there and that once in awhile they come back to check on us to see how we are doing, and that us being trans is part of that experiment.

So many questions that will probably never be answered.

Paula who is an alien

Hmm this raises an interesting point, if we are made in God's image does that mean he is gender dysphoric? 

[Carolyn Marie]

Tonya, I have two things to say about your post.

First, I agree completely.

Second, I'm Impressed!

Girl, have you got a doctorate in astrophysics, or what??

Carolyn Marie

[Guest Joanna Phipps]

Okay so... yeah, lets say there is a sentient species similar to ours that's, oh lets say close by, at 500 light years. If we build a very good space ship, and can attain 50% light speed, it will take 1,500-2,000 years to get there, and just as long to get back. ( You cant just instantly accelerate to 50% light speed, or decelerate from or you'd be destroyed instantly. ) Also, if you figure the odds of a system holding life at 1 in 1,000,000 stars, then on average the next closest star with live would be over 1,000 light years away at best..

several physicists have actually done the math and a Star Trek type warp drive is possible we just dont have the technology for it YET, maybe ET does or maybe they have figured out some kind of translight drive... who knows. If they are even a thousand years ahead of us their science would look like magic to us. 

[Guest Astro_Liz]

You can blame Astro Liz for this thread....

Nope, can't blame me! It was... uh... the hamster... yeah, he's got it out for me! I've been framed!!

I pooped right now, but I promise to respond since I actually inspired something!

Sleepy time,

~Liz~

[Sally]

Well fortunately there is an entry about this very subject in my favorite book - the electronic book with the friendly message flashing on the front - Don't Panic!

Considering the number of stars in the Galaxy that have planets and the even smaller percentage of them with all of the necessary elements for life to evolve or survive that it can be proved mathematically that there is no life in the Universe at all.

Love ya,

Sally

(A mere figment of her own imagination sustained in yours which must be a product of hers since you don't exist but then neither does she so I suppose it doesn't really matter.)

[Carolyn Marie]

Considering the number of stars in the Galaxy that have planets and the even smaller percentage of them with all of the necessary elements for life to evolve or survive that it can be proved mathematically that there is no life in the Universe at all.

Love ya,

Sally

Sally, I will grant you that, based on what I've seen on Earth so far, there is no evidence of

intelligent life. Present company (the members of LP) excepted, of course!

Carolyn Marie

[Sally]

In the words of the great Captain James Tiberius Kirk of Starfleet, "Beam me up, Scotty, There is no sign of intelligent life here."

Live long and prosper,

Sally

[Guest Zenda]

Kia Ora,

Perhaps we have been breed as a food source for higher life forms such as fleas and mosquitoes...

And trans-people were just a new food types on the 'super'market shelves...Who knows???

Metta Jendar

[Guest Astro_Liz]

Well Tonya nailed most of what I was going to go in to, so saves me that much typing!

Now its time for Liz's crazy beliefs...

The short and simple, I believe we were created by a team of "aliens" and are actually part of a grand teraforming experiment. Yup, told ya I was crazy...

I think mars was the first attempt of this experiment given its past lush history, however its atmosphere could not sustain the natural processes that were established and it rapidly deteriorated. The second try, the planet we call earth, is the current run of the experiment.

So, why do I believe this, well, I could easily write a novel on it all as I have spent my life trying to find the clues everywhere in the world. Interesting hobby huh?

If you start with a simplified understanding of how the earth was formed, it was a large molten rock with a very primitive atmosphere. However, nothing happened on this rock. It was lifeless and did not contain the materials to produce it.

Now we look to our nearest neighbor, the moon.

"At one point early in this process a very large planetesimal struck Earth off-center and blowed and sprayeded much of Earth's rocky mantle into space. The planet got most of it back after a period of time, but some of it collected into a second planetesimal circling Earth. It's still there—it's the Moon. Since this theory took center stage in the mid-1980s, it has become everyone's favorite. And as geophysicist Don Anderson once explained, "The objection that such an event would be extremely rare is actually a point in its favor, since the Moon is unique.""

This process reduced the earths mass and gave its rotation along with magnetic core. It also gave us a single moon, which is incredibly rare in the astrophysics world. Usually you should get two or three.

Now to the "ah ha!" moments, at least a few anyway....

The rotation, position, mass, of our planet earth is perfect in every way to support our particular form of carbon and water based life forms. These variables produced the atmosphere we have today. Now once again though, life just doesn't pop up.

I believe bacteria/virus/amino acids/etc from another external body was introduced into this newly formed, but otherwise still uninhabitable, planet. I believe this was the initial seeding of the planet. In our own body, and the cells of every other living thing, resides a little guy called the Mitochondrion. They don't share our DNA and thier structure is vstly different from every other system, and they provide the needed power to our cells to divide, change, evolve, and reproduce.

_{The endosymbiotic hypothesis was popularized by Lynn Margulis. In her 1981 work Symbiosis in Cell Evolution she argued that eukaryotic cells originated as communities of interacting entities, including endosymbiotic spirochaetes that developed into eukaryotic flagella and cilia. This last idea has not received much acceptance, because flagella lack DNA and do not show ultrastructural similarities to prokaryotes. See also Evolution of flagella.}

_{According to Margulis and Sagan,[6] "Life did not take over the globe by combat, but by networking" (i.e., by cooperation)[7].}

_{The possibility that peroxisomes may have an endosymbiotic origin has also been considered, although they lack DNA. Christian de Duve proposed that they may have been the first endosymbionts, allowing cells to withstand growing amounts of free molecular oxygen in the Earth's atmosphere. However, it now appears that they may be formed de novo, contradicting the idea that they have a symbiotic origin (Gabaldón et al. 2006).}

_{It is also believed that these endosymbionts transferred some of their own DNA to the host cell's nucleus during the evolutionary transition from a symbiotic community to an instituted eukaryotic cell. This hypothesis is thought to be possible because it is known today from scientific observation that transfer of DNA occurs between prokaryotic species, even if they are not closely related. Prokaryotes can take up DNA from their surroundings and have a limited ability to incorporate it into their own genome.}

Anyway, that is all just one part of one area of my thinking on all this. Pushed to evolve into the beings our creators invisions, maybe in their own image. Notice the subtle religious tie there.

If anyone is still interested, I'll get into moments in history where changes were imparted to sociatal roles that pretty much kept us from destroying each other or having constant physical relations, both of which would not let our full minds develop.

Let me know...

*hides in the crazy corner*

~Liz~

[Sally]

Astro Liz,

Does this mean that this theory from the 1980s has totally displaced the "Moon Popped out of the Pacific Ocean Theory"?

It does go with the theory that the Earth is a giant computer with all organisms being part of its matrix - so does that mean that Douglas Adams was right?

Are we really the ones being studied by the hyper-intelligent pandemisional creatures (mice) and watched by the others (porpoise) ?

Love ya,

Sally

[Guest jamo-chelsea]

continuing the "we're bugs" theory

consider the shape of our solar system then consider what an atom IE. H2O looks like. similarity? indeed.

perhaps this is just the form nature chose to use, or perhaps.....

WE(the galaxy) are just a leg on some intergalactic trans-dimensional beings coffee table

before anyone asks....yes i am an idiot heheh

[Guest Laura1977]

I thought that the earth was a supercomputer built by highly intelligent mice to find out the question of life, the universe, and everything.