Would It Be Worth A Finger To You

[Guest Evan_J]

I accidently run across stuff sometimes that messes my mind up lol.

Initially I thought I was " misreading"/this was not an actual technique in use, but alas I was wrong.

Just when you thought you knew every approach to the phalloplasty out there........

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt...%26tbs%3Disch:1

added note: the location of this clinic is in the country of Georgia; that is just south of Russia, north of Turkey, Armenia, and Azerbaijan.

[Sally]

OMG!

I couldn't believe it either!

I had to go see - I am shocked and considering what we MTFs are planning on doing that takes a bit of doing - but this does it!

I am with you Evan - how far are we willing to go to achieve our goals?

At least for MTFs the necessary tissue and nerves are supplied by the very parts we do not want - but I tend to want my fingers and their nerves on my hands!

I hope that someone is working on a better technique that does not involve this!

I do feel sorry for you guys - the surgeries have so far to go but there is always hope so be positive and be proud - you are all very special people.

Love ya,

Sally

[Guest Pól]

O.o.....no. That is not for me.

[Guest UnicornGiggles]

I would totally give up a finger to get a realistic penis but those ones look a bit... I dunno. But I have no qualms about losing a finger. I could trap one in a door tomorrow, after all!

[Guest Elizabeth K]

So I would end up with eleven fingers?...

NEVERMIND!

Lizzy

[Guest Evan_J]

So I would end up with eleven fingers?...

NEVERMIND!

Lizzy

No darlin, if you went to the end of that page, you would have nine fingers and a whatsit.

And the thing is, it is a valid question. ALL peeps who transition sacrifice stuff. Surgically though, FtMs have since the inception of the radial forearm phalloplasty been asked "what would you be willing to give up" physically to get what you need. For those of you who've never seen someone in person who's had the forearm it actually almost makes you wonder if the finger is the lessor price -at least visually

[Guest Elizabeth K]

No darlin, if you went to the end of that page, you would have nine fingers and a whatsit.

And the thing is, it is a valid question. ALL peeps who transition sacrifice stuff. Surgically though, FtMs have since the inception of the radial forearm phalloplasty been asked "what would you be willing to give up" physically to get what you need. For those of you who've never seen someone in person who's had the forearm it actually almost makes you wonder if the finger is the lessor price -at least visually

BUT... MTF are... well... inverted. We have an advantage with surgery, but FTM's do so well on "T" and we do just marginal on "E." Actually some of the earlier vagiplasticy used a part of the large intestine. Its all still very primative, both sides. I suspect stem cell research will lead to techniques that will revolutionize SRS, both kinds - maybe some of our younger members will be around.

Take your own cells, jiggle a few chromosomes - grow out the parts - transplant your true opposite sexual organs. Won't that be nice? Anyone ever read John Varley?

Lizzy

[Guest Liam]

No way. I like my fingers the way they are, thank you very much.

[Guest lvmyftm]

Wow!

[Guest My_Genesis]

Take your own cells, jiggle a few chromosomes - grow out the parts - transplant your true opposite sexual organs. Won't that be nice? Anyone ever read John Varley?

Lizzy

I REALLY hope they can do this soon! My life is depending on it!

Who's John Varley? :goes to wikipedia: the sci-fi author? did he write something about organ transplants?

As for the pictures... wow. No thanks. I don't want to say I wouldn't give up a finger for it, b/c I probably would, IF I could trade a finger for a complete male system. Not for that type of procedure though. I'd rather keep my finger.

However, if in the future they can transplant a full set of sex organs, I would say I'd give my left nut to have the rest of it.

[Guest Miles]

No way would I ever.

I'm a cellist, first and foremost, and male second. I would never ever EVER give up my music just for a penis.

-Miles

[Guest BrandonIThink]

My mouth fell open and I still can't quite close it....

Wow!

Yeah, just when you think you know all the procedure methods....

I would be open to this. What Miles said made me think....I would be upset to not be able to play anymore, but other than that I don't really have an attachment to my fingers.

[Guest Elizabeth K]

I REALLY hope they can do this soon! My life is depending on it!

Who's John Varley? :goes to wikipedia: the sci-fi author? did he write something about organ transplants?

As for the pictures... wow. No thanks. I don't want to say I wouldn't give up a finger for it, b/c I probably would, IF I could trade a finger for a complete male system. Not for that type of procedure though. I'd rather keep my finger.

However, if in the future they can transplant a full set of sex organs, I would say I'd give my left nut to have the rest of it.

A transperson science fiction writer.

("Options" and "Blue Champagne")

Also his trilogies usually have tranpeople in them.

I was refering to "OPTIONS" where it is possible to change your sex without a problem, from an undisclosed process that seems akin to stem cell research. A wife decides to become a man - her husband is appalled, but he refuses to become a woman, so she diappointed, changes back. Also, there are characters that spend part of their life as male, part as female. Look for him in Amazon, might be out of print. His new books, Mammoth and the juvinile oriented Red Thunder have no trans people.

I have an extensive collection of scifi and know most of the ones with TS elements. These writers seen to be gender dysphoric and wrote out their fantasies in literature, and the most well known is Robert Heinlein - who wrote a complete sexual reassignment themed book - I Will Fear No Evil. Jack L. Chaulker's books, almost every one of his books, was trans oriented - and also had bizarre transformations - the Well World series especially. He wrote two totally trans themed books. Another is Piers Anthony - but these are little pieces in some of his XANTH series. He may just be exploring new possibilites - but it's interesting how they read.

Many more exist!

Lizzy

[Guest My_Genesis]

A transperson science fiction writer.

("Options" and "Blue Champagne")

Also his trilogies usually have tranpeople in them.

I was refering to "OPTIONS" where it is possible to change your sex without a problem, from an undisclosed process that seems akin to stem cell research. A wife decides to become a man - her husband is appalled, but he refuses to become a woman, so she diappointed, changes back. Also, there are characters that spend part of their life as male, part as female. Look for him in Amazon, might be out of print. His new books, Mammoth and the juvinile oriented Red Thunder have no trans people.

I have an extensive collection of scifi and know most of the ones with TS elements. These writers seen to be gender dysphoric and wrote out their fantasies in literature, and the most well known is Robert Heinlein - who wrote a complete sexual reassignment themed book - I Will Fear No Evil. Jack L. Chaulker's books, almost every one of his books, was trans oriented - and also had bizarre transformations - the Well World series especially. He wrote two totally trans themed books. Another is Piers Anthony - but these are little pieces in some of his XANTH series. He may just be exploring new possibilites - but it's interesting how they read.

Many more exist!

Lizzy

This reminds me of The Sims haha. I have a friend (female) who plays the sims so much she should make a career out of it. Once we were talking about it and I asked her to make a male version of me on the sims. I think she made a male version, as well as a female version which she then converted to male. In the sims games apparently you can just change the sex of the character by clicking on the male or female symbol while you're creating the character. I said to her "If only it were that simple in real life..." :shrugs:

[Guest joeytheman16]

I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't be able to rise to the occasion on my own. That's what really makes and breaks it for me.

Joey

[Guest Donna Jean]

Saw a movie recently called "The Box"

A couple were given a box with a button on it...if they push the button, someone in the world dies..someone that you don't know and if you push it you get $1M......

That's what this reminds me of....

Here, you push the button you get the penis....the finger dies....

Weird.....

But, I guess that we all sacrifice one thing for another in our transitions....

Just the nature of the beast....

Donna Jean

[Guest Keane]

This made me cry inside and I don't think I'll sleep right tonight D'8 Those hands look like cartoon characters (they normally only have three fingers) .... NO THANKS.

[Guest Evan_J]

I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't be able to rise to the occasion on my own. That's what really makes and breaks it for me.

Joey

So you couldn't be a natal male and ever be impotent? (playing the devils advocate) You would tell them to cut it off and send it back if viagra had to be in your future? Skip the reattachment if Larenna Bobbit were your exwife? Think about it.

[Guest Jewel]

Eeek.... well it does give a new meaning to the term boner

[Guest Lelouch]

This is definitely something that I am NOT willing to do. I'd rather wait out on stem cell research as well as the study on gene therapy.

[Guest My_Genesis]

This is definitely something that I am NOT willing to do. I'd rather wait out on stem cell research as well as the study on gene therapy.

Me too! Let's hope they make some progress with that.

[Guest Cody_T]

Does anyone else think the four fingered hand looks really cool?

[Guest CrimsonEdge]

I'd rather not have down surgery at all than lose my finger...

[Flint]

it might be cool for those born with extra fingers who are wanting surgery...something for their extra finger to be used for?

[Guest hayden_jude]

The hand actually doesn't look as freaky as I thought it would....But the rest of the operation....Nope. Not for me.

I think I would be willing to give up a finger, but not for this - not to be used in this way. This is just weird.