How Well Do You Think I Pass Pre-T

[Guest Shawn9]

You want what I wish I never had to deal with. Straight cis-gendered guys go through the socialization process scarred for life... You didn't grow up socialized this. I empathize with your past experiences, you're going for another round. Sucks doesn;t it? Trans dudes have a ton of latitude when it comes to expression. My girlfriend can wear my stuff, no problems, inverse, problems.

I don;t know why I write this. You know what the deal is. It's so screwed up, just look at all these hyper feminine MTF types. Talk about shooting over the moon... I've had to suffer the male socialization process, I don't even know who I am. I've had the core of my personality systematically stripped from me.

abbxrdy,

I hope you can go get the help you need, because it sounds like you really need to talk to a trained professional.

Most straight cis-gendered guys do not find socialization "scarred them for life." They are socialized to be men and they live as men and this doesn't BOTHER them. Yes, this can be very painful for MTFs, but that's the point - they are not cis-gendered guys or whatever phrase people like to use.

Beyond that, transitioning is not a competition. FTMs have certain challenges, MTFs have others. No one gains anything by putting one another down or delegitimizing anyone else's struggles. I don't speak with any authority for this website, but as an FTM dude, I really don't appreciate someone posting in the FTM forum telling Calvin both what kind of a beat-down he's in store for in one breath and then in another breath saying how easy transmen have it because of society's gender constructs. I think it's inappropriate, and I really hope you go get some help, because clearly you are suffering and lashing out at others as a result.

[Guest abbxrdy]

abbxrdy,

I hope you can go get the help you need, because it sounds like you really need to talk to a trained professional.

Most straight cis-gendered guys do not find socialization "scarred them for life." They are socialized to be men and they live as men and this doesn't BOTHER them. Yes, this can be very painful for MTFs, but that's the point - they are not cis-gendered guys or whatever phrase people like to use.

Beyond that, transitioning is not a competition. FTMs have certain challenges, MTFs have others. No one gains anything by putting one another down or delegitimizing anyone else's struggles. I don't speak with any authority for this website, but as an FTM dude, I really don't appreciate someone posting in the FTM forum telling Calvin both what kind of a beat-down he's in store for in one breath and then in another breath saying how easy transmen have it because of society's gender constructs. I think it's inappropriate, and I really hope you go get some help, because clearly you are suffering and lashing out at others as a result.

I;m sorry but I don't need the lecture. I've lived as a male for 30 years and I don't think you understand the subtly that goes along with it. Male culture is a rough place and not every guy comes out unscathed. Me, i'm something different, yea, I do need some serious help, can't afford it. It's amazing i'm still alive. I'm not beating down on an FTM, i'm just relaying my life experience. Got tons of love for the trans guys, hell, they actually let us know how they feel. Not surprising given the amount of latitude they have regarding outward expression.

[Guest Soran Vs]

I don't know how good your voice is - but visually? Natal male, not a TMan - a real male.

Lizzy

I have to agree 100%

[Guest Cowboy]

abbxrdy,

I hope you can go get the help you need, because it sounds like you really need to talk to a trained professional.

Most straight cis-gendered guys do not find socialization "scarred them for life." They are socialized to be men and they live as men and this doesn't BOTHER them. Yes, this can be very painful for MTFs, but that's the point - they are not cis-gendered guys or whatever phrase people like to use.

Beyond that, transitioning is not a competition. FTMs have certain challenges, MTFs have others. No one gains anything by putting one another down or delegitimizing anyone else's struggles. I don't speak with any authority for this website, but as an FTM dude, I really don't appreciate someone posting in the FTM forum telling Calvin both what kind of a beat-down he's in store for in one breath and then in another breath saying how easy transmen have it because of society's gender constructs. I think it's inappropriate, and I really hope you go get some help, because clearly you are suffering and lashing out at others as a result.

I have to agree here with what Shawn said. My own personal opinion here y'all, but we already go through hell bein trans and everyone's transition is gonna pose its different challenges. Honestly, the comment that was made, made me pretty mad because who is to tell anyone what kinda beat down they can expect. especially from one transperson to another. transition is hell for everyone. we all have to experience the bull.... that comes with it, and although we might share some of the same experiences, its gonna be different for all of us.

I'm not tryin to start nothin here, but like Shawn, i felt it was inappropriate.