Passing..

[Guest Mooell]

Okay so.. would I pass with some more effort or wouldn't I?

And heres just one that shows alittle further out..

Also not wearing alot of make-up or anything so I'd really like some advice on what maybe I could do to help with passing!

Thanks in advance!

~Ellie

[Guest Donna Jean]

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Well, Ellie.....

I'm gonna jump in here...ok?

First, I think that you have all the basics that you need....

You've got the face and you're slim..very good ...

Now, have you tried any makeup yet?

Maybe some eyeliner and mascara...lipstick...

You should try that....

And I think you have all you need to be passable visually...

But, don't forget...passing is way more than visual..attitude, mannerisms, movements, speach...

But, you'll have the looks...

Huggs

Donna Jean

[Guest Mooell]

And I think you have all you need to be passable visually...

But, don't forget...passing is way more than visual..attitude, mannerisms, movements, speach

Been trying on that for the past while.. seems to be going fairly decently.

[Carolyn Marie]

I agree with Donna Jean, Ellie. You have wonderful facial features that HRT are going to do wonders with.

One thing that will help, too, is a more feminine pair of eyeglasses. That can make a big difference. Oh, and smile, hon! A smile can really accent your feminine features.

HUGS

Carolyn Marie

[Guest TigerFoxMatt]

Wow, you look kinda like me in my female form before I cut my hair! You even appear to have similar glasses

I agree with Donna Jean as well. Perhaps trying a little make-up will help. I am not much of an expert in this area, though, so I can't recommend anything. ^^;

[Guest Kit]

You look just like my friend! It made me jump.

I'm going to politely disagree about glasses advice-- they're just fine as they are. I wear glasses that are practically the same and --no matter what-- I get called a she. So glasses don't matter so much... and they're so expensive to change anyways.

You look great!

[Guest Erin Girl to Be]

YES !!!

you would pass......

with make up, the right cloths....

you do look feminine !!!!

Erin

Okay so.. would I pass with some more effort or wouldn't I?

And heres just one that shows alittle further out..

Also not wearing alot of make-up or anything so I'd really like some advice on what maybe I could do to help with passing!

Thanks in advance!

~Ellie

[Guest Mooell]

Well in those pictures, what I've got on is just some tinted moisturiser and some small amount of lipbalm.. would love just some slightly detailed advice on what make-up whole hlpe best if its not too much to ask, not got much idea myself.

[JJ]

A lot of the sportswear ads you see in magazines will show everyday daytime makeup and give you a picture to go by. Also looking at exactly how the girls around you are made up at different times will help.

One of your greatest sources of instruction is a makeover at a makeup counter. Many of the women and girls here have done that and can give you advise on approach etc. The thing is -they are trying to sell you products and most have dealt with transwomen or cds before so most will be accepting.

Each person needs to find the colors that work best with their skin tones and hair color. What looks good on one person can look ghastly on another and it's just not possible to tell from pics what will work for you. It can get expensive fast buying products only to discover they transform you into a clown or a zombie when you get home. The one cardinal rule for everyone is-less is more. Start light and add slowly

Hope this was some help.

JohnJ

[Guest Mooell]

Alright so Take One on any kind of make-up usage..

Yes I did pose just a tad for that..

[Guest Donna Jean]

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Oh my goodness.....

Nicely done, Honey......very soft looking and very feminine!

HUGGS!

Donna Jean

[Guest sarah f]

I think you look good hun.

[JJ]

Really cute and pretty. All I can see is the brows that need just a little more feminine look-they're a little thick in the middle. Otherwise you really look good!

JohnJ

[Guest ~Brenda~]

If I may...

I would like to generally comment on "passing". I know that "passing" is a very important subject for all. Passing as "female", passing as "male" are concerns that actually cause distress and even make us decide not to follow our dreams. The very thought that we do not pass is hard to take.

First, Mooell... you do pass... I can see your latter pictures, and viola... a little make up, your gentle skin, your soft picture.. yes you pass

There is something deeper to passing that everyone must understand. Passing as yourself. OK, passing as "female", passing as "male" is important, but passing as yourself is what grounds you

Even at work, my femininity exudes so much from myself that everyone notices. This is really good for me. Although, I present as male at work, no one buys it I am completely myself. It is my expectation that soon people at work will encourage me to transition

That is passing

Love

Brenda

[Guest Annaemo]

The bottom one looks much better because you have a slight smile . Maybe dress and watch your self in the mirror and take lots of photos and copy natural girls more. The top ones are still you just your a bit nervous I think .

[Guest Mooell]

Have been doing that the past few months, given alot of consideration to this.

I can't see any major reason why I'd be really noticed, I've been observing alot of girls my age and rough height and build and somewhat copying their movements and habits. But the only way to REALLY find out is in practice and well thanks to a friend who is more than happy to stick about with me as I try it in public I'm going to try it in a few weeks or so.

Either way, about three weeks more to hone movements, poise and get a better hand at the make-up and I'll see how it goes.

[Guest Mooell]

So yeah going through some trial and error on this, think I'm getting better..

Yes it was a cold day..

[Guest Donna Jean]

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Yes...you ARE getting the hang of it! You're really looking good...

I LOVE that hat!

Huggs

Donna Jean