Jump to content
  • Welcome to the TransPulse Forums!

    We offer a safe, inclusive community for transgender and gender non-conforming folks, as well as their loved ones, to find support and information.  Join today!

A Note On Intersexed Service Members


Recommended Posts

Guest Gina9223

As of right now, I have 11 mil-spec people for 2010. Most are in the sandbox with one Allied nation service member included (not in the sandbox). No contractors this year.

This topic isn’t directly about Transgender mil-spec types, its about Intersexed mil-spec types. This year I’ve assisted 11 active duty mil-spec types (with 1 from one of our close allied nations) I've heard of 1 person who was discovered to be be Intersexed.

While most Transgender people I encounter report a pyschological evaluation along with legal department issues that delay out-processing from 3 months to a year, this one Intersexed person reported that from the time of their scan and the resultant diagnosis to sitting on their seabag at the bus station going home was 6 hours. [the person in question was gendered as male at birth, but has female reproductive organs internally. This is actually not that unusual. I went thru 2nd grade with someone with this issue and a good friend who lived down the street from me from 2nd grade thru 4th had the same condition. This is the 5th person I’ve heard of having this condition]

That’s messed up. If you’ve never encountered the situation, the vast majority of those IS never ‘KNOW’ it. They may ‘suspect something’ but being told, well, being told the military way is the worst way to be told every time. They don’t include any mental health evaluation or even require a mental health care professional to be on hand. They simply tell people in the following manner;

Telling a woman that she is CAIS and what that means (and I quote) “DUDE! You’re a DUDE, DUDE!” [result was a woman near suicidal for most of a month until her mother stepped in and made arrangements for her to see a real civilian therapist]

Telling a man that he is a chimera/mosaic (a person who’s cells include genetic structures of 46XX and 46XY) “You’re a freak of nature” [result, see below]

Telling another woman who was CAIS “You have a fake vagina! Your nothing but a he-she freak!” [result, a very peed off 3rd Class Petty Officer who made our lives hell for weeks afterwards]

Only 1 of those knew what they were and when they encountered the issue, they stood their ground [as in, telling us very bluntly her issues and why we were such shits and how the US Military is a farce]{she's right too}. But the other two and some others that I’m aware of did not ‘KNOW’. But everyone around them picked up on something and they were harassed growing up because the young girl was too manish and the young boy was too girlish. To endure that kind of abuse only to be confronted with a reality that agree’s with the abuser’s can be devastating and more so when done in the normal military manner.

So, if any of you active duty types encounter someone who’s IS, go easy on them and get them to talk and emote. It won’t fix anything but it will help them process the event. Also keep an eye on them for a few weeks, with this kind of life event it can cause on–going issues.

Just to quickly touch on Intersex issues in the US military.

Being Intersexed is considered to be ground for discharge due to physical defect.

Typically a medical board is conviened to determine both discharge and type.

Medical boards are typically 3 physicians, can be convended at any time and can be repealed.

The rest of the discharge rules are the same for everything else. For less than 3 years of active service you lose all benefits. Of the three I noted above, 2 were allowed to serve to the end of their initial enlistment with re-enlistment codes barring further oppurtunites.

The chimera/mosaic was me. I was in shock for a few weeks. um... think about what it feels like to get hit in the head with a lead pipe.

I managed to stay in ‘because'...

Because the doctor felt that my physical condition did not warrant a med board, because the person who actually found out my medical condition didn’t have the authority to conduct the tests that he took and finally the doctor was Gay and felt that everyone SHOULD serve if they wanted to. (heck, he really felt that if you were 18 you should serve for 4 years no matter what. Yeah, a right wing Gay man. His husband was just as right wing as he was too.{no, not offically married but they spent nearly 30 years together before they passed, so I call them husbands. You wanna disagree with me I'll explain it to ya behind the dumpsters Navy style!}

So, if your active, keep your eye's and ear's open ok? Give them an outlet to emote and figure themselves out. Usually all the hard stuff is done and over with the first week. The rest works itself out within a month. Long term medical stuff is on a case-by-case basis becuase IS stuff varies so greatly.

Link to comment

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Who's Online   9 Members, 0 Anonymous, 110 Guests (See full list)

    • Mmindy
    • VickySGV
    • RaineOnYourParade
    • Birdie
    • MaybeRob
    • MaryEllen
    • Andy C.
    • Susie
    • Ashley0616
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Forum Statistics

    • Total Topics
      80.7k
    • Total Posts
      769.1k
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      12,049
    • Most Online
      8,356

    LostAndForgotten
    Newest Member
    LostAndForgotten
    Joined
  • Today's Birthdays

    1. Adamtoeve
      Adamtoeve
      (38 years old)
    2. Andy C.
      Andy C.
      (22 years old)
    3. Asher the Enby Goddex
      Asher the Enby Goddex
      (23 years old)
    4. camerashy
      camerashy
      (52 years old)
    5. Stacy S.
      Stacy S.
      (55 years old)
  • Posts

    • Mmindy
      Yes, I will be volunteering at my city's PRIDE EVENTS, and attending several other events in the communities around my area.   Mindy🌈🐛🏳️‍⚧️🦋
    • KymmieL
      Had a customer bring in her Subie for struts. I ordered fronts. later yesterday, the boss called me into the shop. the proceeds to say I ordered the wrong ones, the fronts instead of rears. Then today I got looking I did order the right ones the first time. All the paper work that I have says front even the last work order said fronts. I told the other boss. So, Have I gotten a sorry from the boss. Ha, ha, not yet. I am doubting I will ever get one.   Oh, well. life goes on.   Kymmie
    • Emily Chen
      Any incoming zoom meeting?
    • RaineOnYourParade
      While I agree with a lot of the campaign personally, I don't think a government-mandated reduction in childbirth is really necessary. As a young person, I hardly know anyone who wants to be a parent in the future. I think a lot of people will either be waiting a while or not having kids at all, meaning that the number of kids being born will probably decrease. Overcrowding's also mostly an urban issue -- plenty of places in rural America have plenty of space for both people and growing food.    Of course, everyone sees things differently, so I won't necessarily say you're wrong. I just think my generation is a lot less inclined to the family mindset than some that came before us. 
    • awkward-yet-sweet
      To me, it sounds like a solution searching for a problem.  I believe in the Russian perspective, that oil is abiotic and likely under every part of the Earth's surface.  There's plenty.  "Peak oil" and "climate" are excuses for government control.   As for roads, we use asphalt because tar and bitumen are a byproduct of fuel production, not the other way around.  Asphalt is not a great material, really.  It can also be recycled somewhat and used again.  Notice how road crews grind down existing asphalt into powder? Concrete is a better material for roads.  But in areas like where I live, very little of our roads are paved.  Gravel is a luxury, and a lot of roads are mud.  Same in many "developing" nations.  Pavement is better for transport, but its not like we would die without it.  Lack of pavement might actually be a good thing, as people might stay home more and food might be grown locally instead of relying on transportation.  It would stop this wacky idea of growing everything in California.     I believe the big crisis we face is globalism and government control.  Proposing some scheme to control our families? That's just more of the same.  Even if folks managed to get enough votes (or rig enough elections) to get the power to do that, it won't be as VP or president of the USA in its current 50-state form.  
    • VickySGV
      The months of June has already been planned out for me with only minimal time for sleep between the Trans Chorus Of Los Angeles and the various communities around me that are in the service area of the LGBTQ  Center I was on the Board of Directors of that are having Pride Events, both LGBTQ Pride and Trans Pride stand alone events.
    • Justine76
      Very cool. I've been clumsily navigating the world of makeup so this may help. Some of the tutorials on YouTube are so advanced, they may as well be speaking Klingon :P  
    • Lydia_R
      I've realized that our laptops are using much less plastic than they used to.  They are smaller devices that use less raw materials and are easier to ship and hold up better in shipping than bigger computers with removable parts.  They seem to have gotten rid of the overheating/fan problem for the most part, but there is a performance hit for that.  I use a 10yo desktop computer with a moderate level gaming video card to run 3 monitors.  I'm a producer though and most consumers have no need for that.   I really haven't watched TV since the 80's.  I spend some time researching on the internet and then I spend a lot of time meditating on the objects in my environment and on the streets.  From living on the streets for a year, I've learned that people can say anything and can control you, but the laws of physics and mathematics are outside of that and really even transcend time itself.  After people would not support my music, I built my life as a software engineer based on mathematics and engineering.  I've had a moderately successful career with that and have written code for many different industries.   The problem with stopping oil usage is that if we still need the bitumen to pave our roads and shingle our houses, then what do we do with the gas when we refine it?  There are natural deposits of bitumen, but you know, with so many people out there, demand is huge and we are using this stuff up.  If you grow corn for corn syrup, then what do you do with the cobs?  We've shipped coffee and bananas all over the world.  We took material from those environments.  What do we do now?  How long can it last?
    • Mmindy
      @Lydia_R I know you're doing the best you can, and I wish you the best.   Hugs,   Mindy🌈🐛🏳️‍⚧️🦋
    • Ashley0616
      I think that threats that can be proven should be incarcerated for half the sentence of the one they would commit if carried out.  Lies unfortunately are just words unless as you stated if not under oath. 
    • Ivy
      I think it depends on where and how it's happening. We also need safe places where, the perhaps more easily intimidated, can feel free to express themselves.     And what about threats of violence?  Can this lead to a place where only the violent can have this freedom?  Is it "free speech" to threaten and intimidate opposing views into silence?  I mean maybe, if I can say anything - "if you don't shut up I'll kill you."   Or spreading lies?  (perhaps about an election). Lying is okay, unless you're under oath - for what that's worth.   Censoring books in schools?  That was fine until the bible was included.  (there is some nasty stuff in there) Then, there's what used to be that free speech birdie place.  You can denigrate queer people all you want, but "cis" is a slur, and prohibited?  Free speech as long as I like it? And let's not go into court cases and gag orders. Porn?
    • Ashley0616
      I have noticed when anyone speaks against their though process they don't like it no matter what sided. Republicans are quick to defend Trump when he's not professional and treats his employees like crap. One employee didn't get paid at all and then he had the nerve to say that he would sue the worker. He already has a model as his wife and still goes after other women. Biden gets lost quicker than a 2nd Lieutenant gets lost at land navigation. Not to mention his open border policy which is flooding the country and can't even take care of the American citizens that we have now. I could go on about both sides. I personally don't get mad at anything someone says to me. I know it's not true so I'm over it before it even starts. You have to have thick skin.
    • RaineOnYourParade
      That's really cool, actually, and I don't even wear make-up :o 
    • RaineOnYourParade
      That sounds like something I would do, lol, thanks <3   A lot of my classes have a lot of smaller, busy-work types of assignments, so it really added up O~O
    • Jet McCartney
      If it makes you feel better, I had a 41 2 weeks before I graduated highschool, and ended up getting honours because my teacher was awesome and let me turn in everything I was missing in one night. I believe in you!
  • Upcoming Events

Contact TransPulse

TransPulse can be contacted in the following ways:

Email: Click Here.

To report an error on this page.

Legal

Your use of this site is subject to the following rules and policies, whether you have read them or not.

Terms of Use
Privacy Policy
DMCA Policy
Community Rules

Hosting

Upstream hosting for TransPulse provided by QnEZ.

Sponsorship

Special consideration for TransPulse is kindly provided by The Breast Form Store.
×
×
  • Create New...