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Is Srs Done Overseas Recognized In The Usa?


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Guest JessicaLynn

Bascially just a simple question. If I have my SRS done overseas, like in Thailand, will it be recognized in the states (Social Security, Birth Certificate, ect)? I have heard conflicting information on this...

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I don't think you really need a Certificate for a pregnant dog. Typo caught by word filter, double hilarity!
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Can I add a related question? Is the srs that is done in thailand just as good? Cause I saw the price was 14000 as opposed to 24k and I was jw. Not trying to derail just confused :x sorry >_<

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Can I add a related question? Is the srs that is done in thailand just as good? Cause I saw the price was 14000 as opposed to 24k and I was jw. Not trying to derail just confused :x sorry >_<

Everyone has their preferences, Ashley, but from what I hear, the quality of surgery is just as good. Some people don't want to travel that far,

or just prefer an American facility. They do many, so they have excellent experience.

Carolyn Marie

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I personally have my SRS letter on file with Dr. Preecha in Bangkok...

The work is outstanding...the Thais have pioneered lots of SRS advanced methods and the costs are low compared to here...Because of the rates of exchange...

I've talked to a number of girls that went there and all were totally satisfied!

Huggs

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As long as the surgeon provides a certified letter confirming surgery was performed that should do it as far as the US federal goverment and most needs. The issue for oversees is no different than for canada and I never heard of anyone having problems with documentation from Brassard ro Menard in Montreal.

There is one issue I have heard and that doesn't just apply to overseas surgeons. Some years back Ohio passed a law regarding modification of their documentation. It may apply to just birth certificates. Through some quirk in the writing the law essentially said that the surgeon had to be an Ohio surgeon, or maybe it was a US surgeon. I can't remember the exact issue. I had heard of some surgeons registering with ohio specifically so their patients would be able to get their documents changed. I believe it was the surgeons in Montreal who did that. I could be wrong and the law may have been modified. Anyone in Ohio should look into the law and find out implications with the surgeon they intend to go to.

There are some surgeons in Thialand who have a good reputation and some claim they are the best. That doesn't mean all are just as good.

NOTE: I spoke in error. The state I was thinking of is Illinois, not Ohio and the requirement was that the surgeon be in the US.

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There are some surgeons in Thialand who have a good reputation and some claim they are the best. That doesn't mean all are just as good.

I totally agree...just like in anything else...everyone claims to be the best...

And, Drea...I was born and live in Ohio...

It is one of only three states where the birth certificate cannot be changed from "Male" to Female"...

So, unless the laws change here, I'll always be male in the eyes of Ohio laws...

Even after surgery and with government documents marked as "Female" such as the social security card, passport, drivers license.....So, I can live as female per these documents, but I could not marry an MTF unless they were legally female...

SUX!

Donna Jean

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So, I can live as female per these documents, but I could not marry an MTF unless they were legally female...

SUX!

Donna Jean

So, assuming a future partner was from out of state, and their birth certificate were changed to indicate female, you could marry, yes? That would be cool!

Carolyn Marie

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So, assuming a future partner was from out of state, and their birth certificate were changed to indicate female, you could marry, yes? That would be cool!

Carolyn Marie

Exactly right, Hon!

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Gah im just full of annoying questions :x um can I get my birth certificate changed if I move away from texas? Like to a state that allows such a change? So I will legally be female?

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Gah im just full of annoying questions :x um can I get my birth certificate changed if I move away from texas? Like to a state that allows such a change? So I will legally be female?

Unfortunately no. Your birth certificate stays filed in the state you wetre born in no matter where you move. It's therefore bound by the laws of that state. I was born in Michigan, but moved to Florida in 2001. My birth certificate s still on file in Michigan. In 2007, I had my name changed on it, and now, because Michigan laws allow it, I COULD have it changed to female, but I'm not. Why? Because I'm a lesbian in Florida! Flordia law prohibits gay marriage. It recognizes post-op transsexuals as their true sex on things such as driver's licenses, etc, but in terms of marriage, case law states thatonly birth sex is looked at. Therefore, I can't marry a man in the state of Florida, despite being a legally recognized, post-op female. I CAN however, have a LESBIAN WEDDING, so long as I can provide PROOF that I was born male (i.e. my male Michigan birth certificate).

Is DOMA dumb or what?

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Correction to my original post. I went to look it up after Donna's post and found I had wires crossed. It was Illinois, not Ohio where one could get it altered but had restrictions on where the surgeon was. The Illionis policy requires the surgeon to be in the US.

Link Below

http://www.tsroadmap.com/notes/index.php/site/comments/illinois_transsexual_women_challenge_birth_certificate_law/

BTW, not getting birth certaifice canged isn't the end of the world. Just apply for and get a US passport. Current policy allows one to get the gender marker altered on a limited term passport even without SRS as long as one can document they are in treatment. The feds will also issue a standard passport with marker altered if you had SRS even if you don't have your birth certificate changed. As far as ID, the US passport is golden and one never needs birth certificate. There may be exception sbut I never ran into them. One exception may be marriage license in some states.

Marriage for trans folks, while in many ways can get recognized by states and feds, its ability to hold up in court is often iffy. As long as one doesn't have anyone challenge it in court there generally isn't a problem. The times that I know where it has gotten challenged has been in cases of fights over someones estate or legitimacy to file a lawsuit. Example, in texas there was a case where a MTF's husband died as a result of malpractice. The MTF won damages in a malpractice lawsuit. Upon appeal the defense argued that the MTF had no right to file the lawsuit because the marriage wasn't valid because the MTF was genetically male. The lawsuit got overturned on that point.

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That kinda sucks :x why does america have to be so backwards..... I hate this place sometimes :( oh well thanks for the answers no matter how disappointing :/ it helps :)

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Whoa! thanks for the info! I am on like cloud 9 right now because for the longest I had thought if I did it overseas it would be legally unrecognized... but NOW... I like will totally have the money for this very soon!

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