U.n Votes To Execute Glbt People Without Cause

[Guest Jessica22450]

http://indymedia.org.au/2010/11/24/all-ok-to-execute-lesbians-other-gbt-people-without-cause

[Guest miss kindheart]

:(

vanna

[Guest Jessica22450]

yeah wanted to post the article so you all could read it and form your own opinions.

[Carolyn Marie]

The title of this thread is misleading. The U.N. in no way voted "to execute GlBT People." It appears to be a statement that GLBT

people are not to be given special status in consideration of whether capital punishment or summary executions are permitted.

That is bad enough, though. It doesn't appear that the U.S. vetoed the measure, which if true is also a shame.

At least some of the western European countries voiced objections. Not a word from the U.S. delegate. Shame on us.

Carolyn Marie

[Guest Jessica22450]

The title of this thread is misleading. The U.N. in no way voted "to execute GlBT People." It appears to be a statement that GLBT

people are not to be given special status in consideration of whether capital punishment or summary executions are permitted.

That is bad enough, though. It doesn't appear that the U.S. vetoed the measure, which if true is also a shame.

At least some of the western European countries voiced objections. Not a word from the U.S. delegate. Shame on us.

Carolyn Marie

well for some reason that was the title of the Article, though to me from reading it, it just seems like it's saying "If you want to kill an GLBT person for comitting, and being convicted of a crime go right ahead, we won't stop you"

[Guest ~Brenda~]

This article does seem a little misleading and confusing. What is really of concern is that the recognition of violence towards the LGBT community by law enforcement is recognized, but seems to be dismissed.

Geeze,

Brenda

[Guest kelise]

If you go to the article and follow the link to the actual UN site and read on further, it seems that while they did remove protections specifically for GLBT people against arbitrary, summary etc. executions, they also passed a motion to condemn ALL forms of arbitrary and summary executions, which hands down should go without saying. However that still leaves open countries like Uganda and Iran to have laws against homosexuality and making it a capital crime.

[Guest KimberlyF]

The UN is and always has been a joke. Good idea turned bad, much like organized religion. They allow countries that treat women as second class citizens to be on their human rights committee and nobody blinks. They send troops into places in Africa where they loot and rape the citizens and it's swept under the rug. Again and again. There are serious injustices in the world and nothing is mentioned. They're pretty much shooting blanks.

Kim

[Guest Cynthia Of Creation]

us vetoed. said no to that. the goal of u.n. is fighting racism and dealing with other human rights, other countries are very different. bbetter in some ways worse in others.

chances are its dealing more with international law than just state, states might still retain their own, states as in us, uk , france. they dont mean states like fl or ny. if anything something like this i doubt would ever get approved. furthermore it seems glbt will be a focus of the u.n. hopefully it willBeGoodForUS

[Guest Emily Ray]

This is a perfect example of why the UN should be defunded. They are a bunch of blowhards who rarely achieve anything of great importants. I am not for defunding the medical aspects of the UN that helps the third world deal with things like AIDS and maleria.

Huggs,

PS the fact that they aren't willing to investigate all extrajudical killings of a countries citizens is quite strange.

[Guest Pellinore]

U.N soldiers are lazy illegitimate children. They don't do a well job in third world countries at all. they are rude in all aspects..my father used to work as a civilian for the U.N..with a very very high status..but even in a U.N jeep he wouldn't even be allowed to cross the border..just because the soldiers felt like keeping him waiting. my mother was deadly sick because of the heat. if i was at the age i am now i would have stepped out of the jeep and beaten the hell out of that stupid guy..i don't care if he looked like a pig on steroids. (sorry..i sometimes have to vent random frustration)

[Guest chngnwnd]

That resolution makes me want to vomit. It should be an embarrassment to the UN. Sadly, they probably see nothing wrong with it.

Bobbi

[Guest Master Zero]

What, so they said it was alright to make laws against GLBT individuals punishable by death? Disgusting.

[Guest Amiel TS]

I agree that the title of the post is misleading, but it's a sad development for all of us nonetheless.

[Guest Barbie]

http://indymedia.org.au/2010/11/24/all-ok-to-execute-lesbians-other-gbt-people-without-cause

The reason that the protections were added in the first place was because certain groups do need protection, and countries needed to be reminded of that fact.

I'm not surprised though that the U.N. bowed to pressure to remove the protections as nothing they do surprises me any longer. With or without protections, the U.N. has no enforcement power. Even if they speak from both sides of their mouths, the motion condeming arbitrary executions has no power behind it.

And it's obvious we have overstayed our welcome in this faux organization of "peace."

[Guest Barbie]

By a U.S. Amendment, the protections for sexual orientation have been reinstated to the resolution condemning extra-jucicial killings.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12056608

[Carolyn Marie]

This is excellent news, Barbie. Thank you for posting it.

If the Resolution saves even one life, it was worth all the debate and effort. I am angry though,

about the statement from the representative from Zimbabwe, who appears to equate Gay and Lesbians with

acts that anyone would agree are wrong and illegal. I guess there are parts of the world where ignorance really is bliss.

Carolyn Marie

[Guest Barbie]

This is excellent news, Barbie. Thank you for posting it.

If the Resolution saves even one life, it was worth all the debate and effort. I am angry though,

about the statement from the representative from Zimbabwe, who appears to equate Gay and Lesbians with

acts that anyone would agree are wrong and illegal. I guess there are parts of the world where ignorance really is bliss.

Carolyn Marie

I saw where you posted similarly on what is going on in Honduras, Carolyn Marie. Murders are likely being conducted by the police within a country, Honduras being one example.

[Guest Barbie]

What, so they said it was alright to make laws against GLBT individuals punishable by death? Disgusting.

They do not need to make laws against GLBT people because, as Switzerland pointed out, the murders are being conducted by police, without law. The police are never given legal authority to murder - at least not accoording to Western law. I think we can assume that if the police come across a transgendered individual, they are doing the killings with silent acquiescence by their governments.

I would not travel to the countries that opposed the resolution either, for any reason. If for business, I would refuse. And St. Lucia opposed keeping the included protection, so I would not spend my money vacationing there, which is a likely vacation spot.

[Guest Barbie]

I should have thought of this earlier. On November 20, 2010 these are the countries that voted to remove protections based on sexual orientation from a U.N. resolution on summary executions. Though the resoltion was re-voted upon, I think it's helpful to know the countries that do not believe sexual orientation (this includes GLBT) to be a protected class.

Afghanistan, Algeria, Angola, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Belize, Benin, Botswana, Brunei Dar-Sala, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cameroon, China, Comoros, Congo, Cote d’Ivoire, Cuba, Democratic People's Republic of Korea, Democratic Republic of Congo, Djibouti, Egypt, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Ghana, Grenada, Guyana, Haiti, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Jamaica, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Kuwait, Lebanon, Lesotho, Liberia, Libya, Madagascar, Malawi, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali, Morocco, Mozambique, Myanmar, Namibia, Niger, Nigeria, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Russian Federation, Rwanda, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and Grenadines, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Somalia, South Africa, Sudan, Suriname, Swaziland, Syrian Arab Republic, Tajikistan, Tunisia, Uganda, United Arab Emirates, United Republic of Tanzania, Uzbekistan, Viet Nam, Yemen, Zambia, Zimbabwe.

[Guest Barbie]

When on December 22, by U.S. resolution, when the GLBT protections were reinstated, these countries REMAINED OPPOSED to the Amendment to resinstate the protections -- and those who abstained or were absent from the vote. I note that the vacation spots such as St. Vincent, St. Lucia and the Grenadine Islands changed their vote, probably realizing that this would affect their tourism if it remained known that they do not believe GLBT's are deserving of protections.

Opposed to amendment (55):

Afghanistan, Algeria, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Benin, Botswana, Brunei Dar-Sala, Burkina Faso, Burundi, China, Comoros, Congo, Democratic People's Republic of Korea, Democratic Republic of Congo, Djibouti, Egypt, Gambia, Ghana, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Malawi, Malaysia, Mauritania, Morocco, Namibia, Niger, Nigeria, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Russia, Saint Lucia, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Solomon Islands, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Swaziland, Tajikistan, Tunisia, Uganda, United Arab Emirates, Tanzania, Yemen, Zambia, Zimbabwe

Abstained (27):

Belarus, Bhutan, Cambodia, Eritrea, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, Haiti, Jamaica, Kenya, Lao, Lesotho, Liberia, Maldives, Mali, Mongolia, Mozambique, Philippines, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Sao Tome Principe, Singapore, Sri Lanka, Suriname, Thailand, Togo, Trinidad and Tobago, Vietnam

Did not vote/Absent (17):Cameroon, Central African Republic, Chad, Cote D'Ivoire, Cuba, Equatorial Guinea, Ethiopia, Gabon, Kiribati, Kyrgyzstan, Madagascar, Myanmar, Seychelles, Turkey, Turkmenistan, Tuvalu, Uzbekistan