Grr I Cannot Figure Out The Sizeing Chat

[Guest kris devereux]

ok i've looked at the chart & cannot figure it out to save my arse, ok i'm somewhere between 5'7 & 5"8 - 5"9 right now i weigh about 238 -240 for shirts i wear a size XXL for shirts & sweaters & pants size 42 & shoes 12, so can anyone PLEASE help trying to get the sizes for girl clothes because i really want to start getting some by christmas or at least try to.

[Guest katie019]

I can't figure the charts out to save my life, the best thing to do is to just go and try clothes on.

[Guest kris devereux]

are you kidding here in virginia i'd be strung up and hung, remember this is the deep south where these idiotic rednecks believe that "the south will rise again" you try living in a hatefull area, goddess i'll be glad when i can just move out of this hellhole, i mean roanoke's a little better but here no way.

[Guest katie019]

Oh, yeah I understand, It sucks. Well, good luck. Sorry I can't be much help.

[Guest eshaver]

Katie o19, I wish I was clear out there to help you shop dear, listen I shop constantly as I am a "Hard Fit". First I was on a medicine called Pregnazone that made me balloon up terribly . I have since gotten better and I can get about now without my cane ! Still, I'm getting off track. Let me give some of you ladies out there some guide lines as to "Women s" sizes vs Men's. Let's start at the bottom and go up.

Men-33-35 in waist is generally a woman's size 12-14 depending on the QUALITY OF THE GARMENT! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't want to SLAM Wal- world here but their stuff is sized way small any way. Girls stay with Sag Harbour , Talbots, Pendelton of Oregon Anne Kline, Saks, or any of the Hi end labels in the area. Generally, I'm over at a Thrift store , yes a Thrift store ! ya'all might think I am a cheap skate but theres a reason to the "madness" if you buy Classic or Preppy conservative , you get real quality that's not Trendy.

Now moving on to pants , generally you can stay a size smaller in slacks , provided that the pants are good quality. I take a 34insh inseam. Yes , they are inherently harder to find . Still J C Penny's has "Tall sizes " in their catalog and the quality is generally there too. Also if you don't mind the price , Tall Girl Shops if any are in you're area buy they're stuff, it's Canadian but FIRST RATE GOODS.

If you're waist is 38-40 go to a woman's size or "W" beside the number , ex 16W, 18W, 20W, 22W, 24W. Now the size 18W might be a little large on you but remember the "Big gals " have a lot of hip to cover too. You can compensate for that by buying "padded" panties and augmenting them with Carpet foam!

There too, African American women have a larger rear also, I don't want to sound racist as I have too many Black female friends. Listen, they are my shopping partners too!

Alright , we have covered , (NO pun intended ) the bottom of us so let go find a few tops !The women I know except for a few are generally shorter wasted and of course narrower within the shoulder areas.

Lets start with a man size shirt , oh 15in neck or a large . Generally speaking women will take a 18W equivalent and maybe a 20W depending on the cut of the material. If all you have to deal with is S M L or Ex Lg, pick the next larger size as you're shoulders are broader than that of the average female .

When buying Dresses, high waist or Empire waists are generally a good bet for us as we possess an extra rib. Women have a defined waist area, we don't Look for dresses that are somewhat straight all the way down . Generally the shirtwaist dresses are a bad deal for the average man as we can't deal with where the pre sewn waist is . When you "belt a dress, you will notice that the belt will sit lower by at least an inch or two on you . Face it "gals" we can only fool Mother nature so much .

If there are any other questions concerning clothing , I am happy to take as much or as little time as needed to help either party. Yes that means you to Fto M's ! I am here to help anyone willing to listen . All you have to do is send me a P M . Remember the better we look to straight people , the better we all look to the world !

Ellen Shaver

[Guest Elizabeth K]

Pretty good advice. As a MTF living in the deep south (reallllllly deep south) I can understand your reluctance to try clothes on.

Anyway - the safest way to try clothes on is if you are dressed as a woman - and that is a problem sometimes. If you are not presenting female, have a lot of money and look like you will spend it, speciality womens' shops (read as large size) will usually allow you to try on clothing if you talk to the manager ahead of time - and ask when they are not busy. They like the dollars but do not want to chase away the customers. Catherine's and Lane Bryant are two speciality stores. You will need to be a serious buyer - do not go expecting to have a fun day trying on clothing!

Also - you may want to research on the internet - google "women's clothing sizes." You need to already measured some of your body with a cloth tape measure, but keep it handy, for more measurements - ha - follow the guidelines, which will usually be for a female body shape.

Or you can use the old 'tried and true' method. Buy without trying anything on - And waste a lot of money buying too big or to small. This allows you to eventually Figure Out What Fits. Then you hope the different manufactures have something close to the same standards!

Okay, that said - another good rule seems to be - the cheaper the grade of clothing, the smaller the actual size. For example, a Walmart XL may really be more like an X

And - funny here - most "man bodies" need the "W" sizes (Womens) = forget petite, forget misses, forget anything that is halfway stylish or young in spirit!

And XXL and the 22W may or may not be the same depending on the manufacturer!

Yikes - therefore - who knows what fits? Trying clothing on is the only guarantee for a good fit - but that option is often impossible

[Guest Kelly Ann]

For shoes go 2-2 1/2 sizes larger if (male) by mail...better yet wear some stockings and try them on live up close and personal in a self serve store, your feet will thank-you for this...comfy is as comfy does as Forest says. Men have,generally, wider shoulders and women larger hips....sooooo shirts/dresses(usually) are easy, if you wear a mens XXL look for Ladies/Misses 3X(L) or Womans 2X(L) just don't buy anything too extravagant unless you can take it back...think of it this way...most ladies pull their clothing up...past the hips, and sooooo to the 42" waist. If I measure my waist and buy accordingly I will definately be disappointed...holy moly it'll fall right off me. What seems to work for me though is to take a 'natural' waist measurement...about 6" above the hip bone top point...then measure the widest part of your hips/legs with your legs pressed lightly together standing up. Use the average between the two measurements to find YOUR waist size.Hope this helps...but I've purchased more than my share of things that just looked AWFUL on...but were wonderful on 'the rack'. If you are going to a regular store like Pennys or Sears ect, they have a sizing chart, use a seamstress tape for the measurements and keep this waist/hip/shoulder average in mind...the chart for a particular store holds for THEIR clothing so it should be easy enough to make several choices and find at least ONE in your particular size. Enjoy the shopping experience and look great sweetie, Hugs Kelly Ann

P.S.

When you find something that Fits Fantastic...lay it flat...put your finger-tips on the far side of the waist and note where the other end hits your forearm...you just got a quick 'n easy way to guesstimate what will fit in a store.Fit is a really an art, it MIGHT be necessary to take things in to be tailored for a really GREAT fit...it's worth it.

[Guest kris devereux]

reluctance hell just call me scared out my pretty little head, thats one thing (that this bi white boy absolutly does not want to do.but i know i'll have to sooner or later i mean if i had some help i mean a lot of help & support i think i can get out of this damned state without being killed.

[Guest kris devereux]

ok here are my sizes for shirts mostly an xxl and for pants a 42-30

[Guest Dutchie]

I did find a good shoe size conversion chart on the payless website.

http://www.payless.com/en-US/Consumer/Cust....htm#conversion

Pity they don't ship to Europe, they do occasionally have nice stuff for me (size 13-13 1/2!!)