I Wish...

[Guest Kristian]

Yes. Just... yes. I sometimes need to catch myself so that the other guy doesn't think I'm checking him out or something.

(And GoldenKirbichu- I can't help but always think about the same thing, even though I understand the logic behind why I shouldn't.)

[Guest GoldenKirbichu]

Yes. Just... yes. I sometimes need to catch myself so that the other guy doesn't think I'm checking him out or something.

(And GoldenKirbichu- I can't help but always think about the same thing, even though I understand the logic behind why I shouldn't.)

Well, it's sort of ironic, because I say "Genitals do not make the man" often enough to others... but at the same time it's a big hang-up for me. Mostly because some people can't see me as truly male without it, which sucks.

[Guest Jack Solomon]

Well, it's sort of ironic, because I say "Genitals do not make the man" often enough to others... but at the same time it's a big hang-up for me. Mostly because some people can't see me as truly male without it, which sucks.

I have a similar thing. I do not believe genitals make the man (or woman) but I feel I must have them to be truly complete to my own standards within myself. It does not apply to others, but I have a big hang-up where the phallus is concerned...

I often look at genetic males and I wish I looked like them. Especially those with the body type I would prefer to have. I do think its pretty natural to do so though for FTMs. It pains me that I definately do not pass at the moment (except for sometimes over the phone).

Solomon

[Guest Ryles_D]

i went shopping 2day and saw this guy who was probably around my age (19) and i was so jealous of him. it sucks. i notice guys all the time and how i wish i was born looking naturally that way too does anyone else notice guys in this way too? it just kinda ruins the day, i feel pretty depressed now.

I do that with pretty boys more than regular guys, because regular guys I've spoken to and pretty boys I admire from afar. Part of me loathes bioguys because, like you said, they were born that way and don't have to deal with getting called a girl or anything we do. But, overall, I don't think I really get jealous of guys in particular. I don't want to be like the jerks I've known, and am willing to pay the physical, emotional, and financial price. Yeah, I expect being me'll make life harder, but since when is the easy way the fun way?

I tend to notice the word 'transition' more. I swear, it's popping up all over. I never realized it was such a common word. D:

Well, it's sort of ironic, because I say "Genitals do not make the man" often enough to others... but at the same time it's a big hang-up for me. Mostly because some people can't see me as truly male without it, which sucks.

Maybe it's cuz I'm that asexual... or that much of a freak... but the genitlas aren't a big thing for me. I don't plan to give anyone the chance to see down there and wouldn't mind an extra reminder not to, I hate that they're sexual organs, and hte only real advantage is the easier StP thing. I really don't see how people can't see you as a male without if they don't know you don't got one, and why tell 'em?

[Guest GoldenKirbichu]

Part of me loathes bioguys because, like you said, they were born that way and don't have to deal with getting called a girl or anything we do. But, overall, I don't think I really get jealous of guys in particular. I don't want to be like the jerks I've known, and am willing to pay the physical, emotional, and financial price. Yeah, I expect being me'll make life harder, but since when is the easy way the fun way?

I'm often jealous of biomen, but more because they have an obvious advantage with passing and whatnot. More often I become frustrated when they can't understand.

Maybe it's cuz I'm that asexual... or that much of a freak... but the genitlas aren't a big thing for me. I don't plan to give anyone the chance to see down there and wouldn't mind an extra reminder not to, I hate that they're sexual organs, and hte only real advantage is the easier StP thing. I really don't see how people can't see you as a male without if they don't know you don't got one, and why tell 'em?

Well, I fully intend to be in a sexual relationship of some sort with some person, and lacking a genetic penis is a major crippling factor because sooner or later it will be revealed that one lacks it. So I'll either have to tell my partner or zie'll find out zirself, which will be worse.

[Guest Ryles_D]

I'm often jealous of biomen, but more because they have an obvious advantage with passing and whatnot. More often I become frustrated when they can't understand.

Yeah, that's the problem. It's not that hard, took me a few hours on google to understand the basics.

Well, I fully intend to be in a sexual relationship of some sort with some person, and lacking a genetic penis is a major crippling factor because sooner or later it will be revealed that one lacks it. So I'll either have to tell my partner or zie'll find out zirself, which will be worse.

I think some pre-ops are happily in sexual relationships with people that see them as their gender identity, even during sex. If they can see girl parts and think boy, they can see not-quite-boy parts and think boy.

[Guest My_Genesis]

I have a similar thing. I do not believe genitals make the man (or woman) but I feel I must have them to be truly complete to my own standards within myself. It does not apply to others, but I have a big hang-up where the phallus is concerned...

I often look at genetic males and I wish I looked like them. Especially those with the body type I would prefer to have. I do think its pretty natural to do so though for FTMs. It pains me that I definately do not pass at the moment (except for sometimes over the phone).

Solomon

i feel the exact same way...in fact, i was ready to post a new thread on the topic...it's not really society i care about so much as myself..i feel like i will not be complete..and even worse, like i will be female unless i have the same body a genetic male has..this is one of my biggest issues with being FTM...i'm putting all my faith into tissue engineering and such that it will become a reality soon.

[Guest Tay-Tay]

I see what you mean i mean hey i dont really get checked out by guys because im not much to look at which is good but i do notice them because it bugs me that people who are the right gender mis treat it and well i want to have the body of a guy so bad. i work out and i eat alot of meat. the meat helped widen my shoulders im a sophmore in high school and i want to ask a girl out on a date or to prom when im a junior but as a guy

i live in a small town that hates any one who is different. and i am different. i have one friend and my sister who knows that im supposed to be a guy and not a girl and they r kewl with it. my sister is bi and told my mom and my mom flipped out so im not telling her un till i can explain everything. i told my friend who has a bi sister and she was kewl with it but idk about my other friends. im in the GSA in my school and particapate in the Day of Silance every year and i wish that i could be who i was right parts and all.