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Guest Mika N.

So in the military we get the pleasure of the occassional urinalysis test to check for illegal drug use. Well, I was wondering would the use of Spiro and Estrofem show up on these tests?

Mika N.

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It is my understanding that they do not, but don't quote me on that. I'm not sure.

MaryEllen

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Guest Little Sara

Urine analysis checks for some things, but when I do my blood work, its to check for hormones. If it was more effective to check through urine than blood (for hormones), it would no doubt be done that way. It might find traces though, I'm not sure. If they can find testosterone doping that way, and hormones evacuate the body in the same ways (through use, sweat, urine, acne).

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I had been somewhere where that question was asked concerning drug testing at work and the answer was that they only show up on hormone screenings. Simple drug testing doesn't register hormones!

I seem to remember that that answer was from a medical facility but I can't remember which one, but it does make sense. They aren't drugs as such the are hormones.

To find hormones in the samples, they would have to be looking for them.

There might be something on it on the TS roadmap under employment.

Love ya,

Sally

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Guest Donna Jean

Gee, Mika......

When I was in the USAF they didn't do drug checks..(wow..1970 or so)...

But, eveyrthing in your blood sample can be found....it just matters what they are looking for...

I was the person in charge of drug checks at my last job and I had a list of things that was tested for...if it wasn't on that list they didn't bother..

They look for the obvious...

Marajuna

Opiates

Cocaine

Amphetamines

PCP

Methadone

Barbiturates

Benzodiazepines (BZ)

Tricyclic (anti depressants)

Methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA or ecstasy)

That is what the BWC (Bureau of Workers Comp) look for ...No hormones or Metformin (I take that for diabetes)...it won't pick up heart meds or a rash of other things...

The Gov't looks for the same unless they also look for steroids now. I don't know about that.

The same blood test that my doctor takes to check my glucose level can be tested for hormone levels, but they have to look for that....

So, Hon....stay safe in there...Huggs from a vet who's been there ...

And as I like to say...

If the guys could see good 'ole Donna Jean now...lol :lol:

XXOO

Donna Jean

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Guest Leah1026
So in the military we get the pleasure of the occassional urinalysis test to check for illegal drug use. Well, I was wondering would the use of Spiro and Estrofem show up on these tests?

As others have said the answer is no.

However, you have a bigger, growing problem. What will you do when you're discovered? You have to know you will be administratively discharged. And even if they don't find out, what about your discharge physical? Developing breasts will raise questions and maybe additional tests and maybe administrative action.

You are playing with fire.

Assuming you're talking about the US military.

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Guest Mika N.
Urine analysis checks for some things, but when I do my blood work, its to check for hormones. If it was more effective to check through urine than blood (for hormones), it would no doubt be done that way. It might find traces though, I'm not sure. If they can find testosterone doping that way, and hormones evacuate the body in the same ways (through use, sweat, urine, acne).

Checking for the use of Testosterone seems probable, but I'm hoping no employer really cares about the levels of estrogen.

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Guest Mika N.
I had been somewhere where that question was asked concerning drug testing at work and the answer was that they only show up on hormone screenings. Simple drug testing doesn't register hormones!

I seem to remember that that answer was from a medical facility but I can't remember which one, but it does make sense. They aren't drugs as such the are hormones.

To find hormones in the samples, they would have to be looking for them.

There might be something on it on the TS roadmap under employment.

Love ya,

Sally

Love ya too Sally. Hey your from Texas too! Hi!

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Guest Mika N.
Gee, Mika......

When I was in the USAF they didn't do drug checks..(wow..1970 or so)...

But, eveyrthing in your blood sample can be found....it just matters what they are looking for...

I was the person in charge of drug checks at my last job and I had a list of things that was tested for...if it wasn't on that list they didn't bother..

They look for the obvious...

Marajuna

Opiates

Cocaine

Amphetamines

PCP

Methadone

Barbiturates

Benzodiazepines (BZ)

Tricyclic (anti depressants)

Methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA or ecstasy)

That is what the BWC (Bureau of Workers Comp) look for ...No hormones or Metformin (I take that for diabetes)...it won't pick up heart meds or a rash of other things...

The Gov't looks for the same unless they also look for steroids now. I don't know about that.

The same blood test that my doctor takes to check my glucose level can be tested for hormone levels, but they have to look for that....

So, Hon....stay safe in there...Huggs from a vet who's been there ...

And as I like to say...

If the guys could see good 'ole Donna Jean now...lol :lol:

XXOO

Donna Jean

I know a few people in my Brigade that are getting kicked out for comming out "hot" on this urinalysis we had after the Christmas holidays. I wasn't on hormones back then. Now that I am, I am a little bit concerned. Anyway, if the catch me then so be it. I love estrogen too much now.

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Guest Mika N.
As others have said the answer is no.

However, you have a bigger, growing problem. What will you do when you're discovered? You have to know you will be administratively discharged. And even if they don't find out, what about your discharge physical? Developing breasts will raise questions and maybe additional tests and maybe administrative action.

You are playing with fire.

Assuming you're talking about the US military.

Yes, I know I will be administratively discharged if discovered. I have about eight months till I start on my Terminal leave. Right now I am on a pretty conservative dose of Estrofem and Spiro. I love the way my skin feels soft, I love the feeling of calm and tranquility, I love the decrease in sex drive, I love the way I can handle stess and interactions with other people so much better, I am insanely in love with Estrogen. Yes, I felt a few days of lightheadness and the diuretic effects of spiro, but everything else I'm experiencing is so very positive and so very "right". I'm more social and more productive with everyone, I love it.

Leah, I love you so much for your words of concern. Even though I am looking forward to it, my breasts haven't developed yet. Yes, I have pondered what would happen at my discharge physical. I've come to the conclusion that whatever happens, happens. I'm so very happy that I'm finally letting this woman finally have her life. I just want to be "me" now and happy. My finances are in order and I'm planning on my ffs as soon as I get discharged. I can't wait till that day.

Ten years of service and 27 months in Iraq, it is time for me to live my life for "me" now. If I get discharged other than honorable, I know in my heart I served honorably. I know I stand to lose my benefits if discovered, that is the price I'm willing to pay. I can't wait any longer.

Mika N.

Mika N.

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Guest Jackson
Ten years of service and 27 months in Iraq, it is time for me to live my life for "me" now. If I get discharged other than honorable, I know in my heart I served honorably. I know I stand to lose my benefits if discovered, that is the price I'm willing to pay. I can't wait any longer.

Mika N.

Mika N.

Thank you for serving your country in a time of need. As long as you know in your heart that you served honorably, then that's enough. Just be sure that a dishonorable discharge won't become important to you later in life. I know that sometimes there are things that don't seem important now, but have a way of becoming important later in life. But also don't put your life on hold any longer.

Congrats!

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Guest Leah1026
Leah, I love you so much for your words of concern. Even though I am looking forward to it, my breasts haven't developed yet. Yes, I have pondered what would happen at my discharge physical. I've come to the conclusion that whatever happens, happens. I'm so very happy that I'm finally letting this woman finally have her life. I just want to be "me" now and happy. My finances are in order and I'm planning on my ffs as soon as I get discharged. I can't wait till that day.

Okay cool. I'm glad you knew where I was coming from. :) Some people can get really defensive. May your last 8 months pass quickly!

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Guest Eagledancer

I have never seen a urine test that is a screen AND the identifying agent is a hormone except pregnancy tests for HcG! It is my hope that the new administration does change the "don't ask...don't tell" policy. It should NOT matter if you choose to serve our country what orientation you are OR what gender you identify with. I will say that I extend my hand in a gesture of thanks for your commitment and service. You are the cornerstone of this great country we call home. May all your hopes come true, and may the time you served come back to you 3-fold with happiness and harmony. Again, thank-you.

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