Pacific 'Justice' Institute Privacy Demand Form...

[Guest Jenn348]

http://www.pacificjustice.org/uploads/1/3/1/7/13178056/notice_of_privacy_-_ca.pdf

"Specifically, our reasonable expectations of privacy include the following:

Our child will not be subjected to the view of any other person, adult or minor, whether in person, by camera or other visual surveillance, in a state of either full or partial nudity, when that person does not share the anatomical, biological and chromosomal sex of our child."

So, the right to privacy for cisgender people trumps a trans person's right to anatomical and medical privacy? What right do they have to know what somebody's chromosomes look like?

[Guest LizMarie]

"Chromosomal sex" has been ignored by biologists for about 40 years now. These people are using that term to sound pseudo-scientific and assert something that is not even true. For example, I'm sure these bigots don't even realize that approximately 1 in 30,000 female births is XY (Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome - see http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/androgen-insensitivity-syndrome ). I'm sure these people will have a hissy fit at Klinefelter's Syndrome (XXY babies, who usually develop male and rarely develop female - see http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15755052 ).

(NOTE: The discovery of XXY females in the last several years suggests that they simply have been overlooked and thus the true number of XXY females is not yet firmly established, other than the cases cited above that it does occur.)

[VickySGV]

This thing is pretty lame, but the answer is for the parents to tell the daughter to use the unmarked single toilet room instead of the ones her XX chromasome (of which one X does not do anything) compatriots uses. But to make sure, before they do that, the school authorities should demand a chromasomal test on the child from the parents. OHHH could that be an eye opener. By the way, how many young kids are going to pay attention to their parents on that kind of stuff?

[Guest Jenni_S]

No, the right to privacy of those of natal sex do not trump transgender privacy rights. However, neither do the transgender's trump theirs. Each has a right to their privacy, and a right to a safe space, if such a space is clearly marked. I do not find it coincidental that the number of such demands and proposed laws have dramatically increased since Colleen Francis' appearance sans clothing in the women's sauna, and then claimed discrimination. That just might cause some people to get upset, and by gosh, it seems to have done so.

[Guest KimberlyF]

The irony here is that during the debate, the bill's sponsors talked of the feelings of all sides on the matter and if anyone felt uncomfortable, the authors hoped the schools would provide accommodations for the kids that were uncomfortable or who's parents didn't want them in there.

This is a form for those kids & parents to inform the school of their concern in writing. This was kinda how it was supposed to work more or less.

[Guest Jenn348]

If I were a school official, I would provide a response stating that their concerns have been addressed by putting stalls in all of the bathrooms and dividers between the urinals in the men's room to ensure that nobody views another student's genitals. I would also state a school policy (and probably state laws) that says anybody exposing themselves to another in restrooms would be severely punished.

LOL

[VickySGV]

In going back to my memory banks of young years, it was always the kids talking loudest and showing off most who also were the proudest of being Sunday School members in the Sunday School class taught by our principal. The principal being their SS teacher gave them permission to be _________ in their minds.