how to induce Lactation?

[Guest KiraMT]

Haii my name is Kira but my friends call me Fatigue . After comming out and going to group, i met a transgirl names Roxy who was able to lactate, and proud to mention it, but when i asked how she did it, she gave me the most vauge answer like she didn't want people to know and keep it to herself. and i wasn't about to stop my hormones for an unknown ammount of time in order to induce lacation hoping to start again at the right time...

so if anyone knows how to do thing i would like a detailed description of how and all the steps from breast pumps to hormone manipulation.

thank you very much :3

[VickySGV]

Lactation in a MtF on HRT means that prescribed hormones are doing damage, and needs to be seen urgently by a doctor. The pituitary gland, which can majorly affect your health is unhappy with your HRT program. It may or may not be related to a too high dose, only a doctor can tell that, and it is patient by patient.

If your friend is that spooky about her stuff, then my guess is going to be that she is self medicating and see item above!! We do not discuss self medication or the use of herbal estrogens on this forum. That is LAW.

I have already had one mammogram that scared the heck out of me a few months ago, but with a biopsy, turned out to be a benign tissue intrusion.

There have been recorded instances where MtF's have been carefully and with STRICT MEDICAL SUPERVISION induced to lactation while they were new parents, and their SO's could not nurse the child, but that is NOT COMMON.

Lactation will NOT in the long run affect your breast growth, and could damage them as it does to natal females.

[Guest KimberlyF]

Lactation in a MtF on HRT means that prescribed hormones are doing damage, and needs to be seen urgently by a doctor. The pituitary gland, which can majorly affect your health is unhappy with your HRT program. It may or may not be related to a too high dose, only a doctor can tell that, and it is patient by patient.

I've never heard of this. What kind of damage is being done?

[VickySGV]

Maybe the word damage is a little over the top, but lactation means the presence of Pitocin in the blood stream which is triggered by hormones normally associated with pregnancy and its dramatically high levels of E at the time a natal female delivers a baby. Other hormones take over once a child begins nursing to keep the lactation going. In a natal female, the estrogen level peaks and drops after pregnancy, in MtF's we are trying like heck to keep our levels high.

The pituitary gland is one of our major life glands that controls many things. The pituitary gland can also become cancerous. We do not want to damage it. My endo gave me very clear instructions on calling in if I had begun actual lactation. We can expect some very minor "colostrum" discharge at times in our boob development, but even that needs to be brought to our Endo's attention.

[Guest Jenn348]

In my own experience, having a baby around (especially when said baby is one's own child) can cause sympathetic lactation to varying degrees. But, there are no guarantees.

Talk to your endo and talk to a doctor. There are various medicines and dietary supplements that can help with it.

[Guest miss kindheart]

ok well guess i'll go out on a limb here

I pray it doesn't break

Been there done that

Yeah i was proud as a peacock

yeah was back when i was doing the self med thing==> not the way to go , but i understand why peeps do it

Pregnant women lactate because of 4 main hormones that their bodys produce during pregnacy

Estrogen , Progestrone , Prolactin, and Oxytocin.

any way Nuff said

vanna

[Guest N. Jane]

I am not a medical practitioner (nor do I play one on television!) but there is a whole group of TS who are working on achieving lactation or have already done so. I know because I am one of them! (I had milk in April but let it slip.) My endocrinologist knows but has never mentioned any health risks nor have I head of any through the TS lactation folk.

If you want more information, search on "transgender" and "lactation".

[Guest KiraMT]

I am not a medical practitioner (nor do I play one on television!) but there is a whole group of TS who are working on achieving lactation or have already done so. I know because I am one of them! (I had milk in April but let it slip.) My endocrinologist knows but has never mentioned any health risks nor have I head of any through the TS lactation folk.

If you want more information, search on "transgender" and "lactation".

may i ask how you acheived this? if i may?

if not may you please link me to a site that may teach me how?

i spoke with many Dr's about it, and none of them mentioned anything about dangers upon asking for them.

[VickySGV]

RULE 18

18). Users may not discuss how to obtain hormones without a prescription or their specific dosages of hormones nor encourage the taking of non-prescription drugs. ie. herbal hormones,

The posting of dosages of any medication is also prohibited.

The taking of hormones without being under a doctors supervision is a very dangerous thing to do.

The information you are requesting would violate this rule of the Forums here. If you have spoken to Doctors who have no problems with this practice, the only advice that we can give here is to call them and request an appointment. Web sites do not qualify here for being appropriate medical advice absent direct consultation with an M.D.

[Guest Bellexia]

"Lactation in a MtF on HRT means that prescribed hormones are doing damage, and needs to be seen urgently by a doctor. The pituitary gland, which can majorly affect your health is unhappy with your HRT program. It may or may not be related to a too high dose, only a doctor can tell that, and it is patient by patient."

We are doctors now it seems, despite our constant statements that we aren't. Interesting, and where did herbal hormones come in eh? I self med but I don't use herbals derp.

"The information you are requesting would violate this rule of the Forums here. If you have spoken to Doctors who have no problems with this practice, the only advice that we can give here is to call them and request an appointment. Web sites do not qualify here for being appropriate medical advice absent direct consultation with an M.D."

Yet we are so willing to throw out doctor's advice. I am sorry, where is the line between doctor and just panic?

[Guest KimberlyF]

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Yet we are so willing to throw out doctor's advice. I am sorry, where is the line between doctor and just panic?

At the very least, when playing doctor,one should know what one is talking about or be able to research their facts before offering advice.

[Michelle 2010]

Bellexia, I think Vicky's second quote regarding the Rule is pretty straight forward in its meaning and literal statement. A site violation, but if you want to see your Dr. , do so...

Why is that met with an editorial opinion?

What do you expect a mod to do other than represent the rules we must live by and hopefully facilitate quality discussion and communication. Consider taking it at Face Value... delivered with with no other intent...

Hugs

Michelle

[Guest Bellexia]

Bellexia, I think Vicky's second quote regarding the Rule is pretty straight forward in its meaning and literal statement. A site violation, but if you want to see your Dr. , do so...

Why is that met with an editorial opinion?

What do you expect a mod to do other than represent the rules we must live by and hopefully facilitate quality discussion and communication. Consider taking it at Face Value... delivered with with no other intent...

Hugs

Michelle

It is a conflict of the statement she made earlier where she WAS giving out doctor's advice. It's a case of posting then thinking.

Editorial? Eh? What in blazes are you talking about.

[Guest KimberlyF]

Bellexia, I think Vicky's second quote regarding the Rule is pretty straight forward in its meaning and literal statement. A site violation, but if you want to see your Dr. , do so...

Why is that met with an editorial opinion?

What do you expect a mod to do other than represent the rules we must live by and hopefully facilitate quality discussion and communication. Consider taking it at Face Value... delivered with with no other intent...

Hugs

Michelle

It is a conflict of the statement she made earlier where she WAS giving out doctor's advice. It's a case of posting then thinking.

Editorial? Eh? What in blazes are you talking about.

im sure nobody is advocating two sets of rules here.

[Guest N. Jane]

may i ask how you acheived this? if i may?

if not may you please link me to a site that may teach me how?

i spoke with many Dr's about it, and none of them mentioned anything about dangers upon asking for them.

My endocrinologist is very conservative and cautious and warns me about any possible ramifications even if it is something I am doing on my own so, at least in my case, I know she feels there is no danger in it. (She also feels there is no "need" and that is why she doesn't actively support my quest for lactation.)

I don't think it would violate the rules to say that breast development occurs not only through estrogen but also through the presence of progesterone and both are required to 'mature' the milk-making portions of the breast. In normal cases, at the end of a pregnancy, lactation is triggered by a sudden drop in estrogen and progesterone levels and the release of prolactin and oxytocin. Both are released by the pituitary as a result of stimulation of the nipple and aerola.

All of this can be simulated and under the supervision of an endocrinologist is perfectly safe.

[MaryEllen]

We're not medical professionals here so we need to be careful of any medical advice given. The last thing we need is a lawsuit for medical malpractice against us. Cool it with the medical advice. please.

MaryEllen

[Guest Carla_Davis]

When I spoke to my Endocronologist about lactating to increase breast development she Strongly warned against it because it could result in Serious Medical Issues.

Hugs,

Carla