Passing?

[Guest EmmaPark94]

Hi, everyone!

It's Emma, and I'm wondering if I pass at all? Or what could I do to improve?

My Flickr -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/116051523@N04/with/12244650566/

Thanks, everyone!

[Guest lillypad]

Passing can be achieved by many different ways.

1. Voice (biggest give away)

2. Clothes

- Don't wear thin strap tops as they make shoulder broad

- Wear long jackets with pull tie to give illusion of curves / hips

3. Makeup

- Contour using bronzer

- Laser and Electrolysis

4. Movement

- Work on walking with one foot in-front of the other a little more
5. Don't go overly girly it will give you away too observe what other girls are wearing currently in your age group

Hope this helps

-Lilly

[tracy_j]

To me you show an androgyne face - you could be either so the comments given by Lilly are useful to think about - if you spoke in a female voice you would be taken as female and if male, just a young looking male. Check your mannerisms!

Tracy

[Guest jnemo]

You look... way better than me But one thought - if you plan to wear a low-cut top, shaving your torso may be advisable.

[Guest sPAZAttack]

I think you look great! Do you have any body shots? I think a little bit of makeup would also do wonders.

Jess

[Charlize]

I think you look fine. If you want to get out there and take some steps in the world. Just blend in and enjoy.

Hugs,

Charlie

[Guest jnemo]

I think you look fine. If you want to get out there and take some steps in the world. Just blend in and enjoy.

Hugs,

Charlie

Co-signed!

[Guest ChefErik93]

i agree with what lilypad said. that on top of mannerisms and make up, you've got it going on. regardless of all of this at first glance you look great! like a young pretty female! like many in our community our voice is what gives us away.

keep it up

Erik

[Sakura]

Passing physically is only about 5% of the battle. The rest is mental and social and all the little things one learns on the way.

I agree with jnemo. shaving your chest would be a good idea .

[Guest jnemo]

I agree with jnemo. shaving your chest would be a good idea .

World is ending, somebody agrees with me! Thank you, Sakura

Emma, my other thought would be, if you're keeping your chest unshaved for various reason (permanent hair removal, avoidance of ingrown hairs, etc), just wear a less revealing top. Otherwise, seriously lovely!

[Guest Placebo1113]

As a straight male, you're cute Your arms are pretty muscular, which is more intimidating in general than "manly" per se. I don't really know what can be done for that, other than maybe a less revealing top. But your face is definitely really pretty.

[Guest Nikkichick33]

I used to worry about passing. and, Thought, I am not taking a test, It makes it sound like were posing as someone were not, So, Not anymore. I could care less! I am me. Nikki, I do not need to pass as being myself. if people do not like me, Their prob! I am who i am. I am not a full natal female, So why try and "pas" as one. I am a very happy trans girl. period..

[Guest]

You sing it, Nikkichick.

Huggs,

Joann

[VickySGV]

I used to worry about passing. and, Thought, I am not taking a test, It makes it sound like were posing as someone were not, So, Not anymore. I could care less! I am me. Nikki, I do not need to pass as being myself. if people do not like me, Their prob! I am who i am. I am not a full natal female, So why try and "pas" as one. I am a very happy trans girl. period..

You are making PROGRESS there girlfriend!! Big PROGRESS.

[Guest Nikkichick33]

Thanx Ladies <3 It is the BEST thing i have learned in my transition. I am sooo much more at peace within myself now. I am HAppy! Do not worry about passing. just be your beautiful self!! <3

Nikki.

[Guest thevaliantx]

My thoughts, in '+' and '-' format. I try to be a fair to everyone, and I'm a glass half-full/half-empty kind of trans girl.

+ beautiful, pouty lips

+ baby soft skin in the face (I hope you didn't photoshop these or otherwise 'edit' the photos)

+ nice fingers

- too muscular in the arms and shoulders, particularly in the second photo

- i see chest hair in the last photo. too a drunk that would pass. but then again, my wife worked with a GG who could literally grow a beard

- the chin, please don't take this the wrong way, but just about every trans girl has a feature that can't be resolved without surgery. If you take your finger and cover up part of your chin it dramatically changes your appearance toward female. Surgery seems to be something that most will avoid, but I think that chin augmentation and shaving is one of the lower risk / higher reward surgeries out there.

Having said that, there are anomalies across the entire gender spectrum. Heck, my oldest adoptive sister is very pretty, yet very athlethic and 'manly' looking in the face, particularly in the jawline area.

Bone issue aside, you're still prettier than many trans girls would love to be. I've lost a bunch of hair on my head, that not even a scalp reduction would overcome, so focus on being the woman you are, and focus on saving the money to alter (or remove) things that will help to complete your journey.

[Guest Nikkichick33]

The last post was meant for the OP correct? Because like i said, I do not need NO one to assess me, I know i do not fully pass as a natal female because i am NOT a natal female.But, I am very beautiful and attractive young trans girl. I am fully happy with myself no matter what ANYONE thinks about me. I will NEVER ask anyone to assess me and my looks.I AM happy and fully comfortable with who i am. Before anyone possibly throws insults my way towards Looks, Please, do NOT waste ur finger strength typing them. It does NOT phase me.. if the last post was for the OP then i am sorry. :-)
Nikki.

Edited March 2, 2014 by KarenLyn
corrected spelling for clarity

[Guest Megan_Lynn]

Wow I am actually a bit shocked at some of the responses here. While I realize what I am about to type will most likely ruffle a few feathers am gonna say it anyways.. I have seen alot of pictures of people posted on this site and seen people give all kinds of compliments to ones that did not look 1/4 as good as this person does. But yet this time is more critical? Seriously people?..Maybe I am just going blind but I would do damn near anything to have such great lips skin and nose as this person does and her eyes in last picture make one melt.. Yes I do agree with the chest hair thing that go's without saying. But I did not see no were near enough muscle or brood shoulders to make me think dude at all. The only flaw if you can even call that is her jaw is a tad squared but I have seen and known more then a few GG's with jaws just like this. If this person is pre HRt can you even imagine the out come for her... To have such a good canvas to start with would be outstanding.. I would trade body and faces with her in a new york second. My 2 cents...

P.S

Nikkichick33 you have come along way for the better in both attitude and looks.. you go girl..

[Guest Nikkichick33]

I second everything Megan stated! girl, you are beautiful! i just hope that one day you will realize that when you stop worring if your "passing" or not, And just be who you are, You will be alot more happy and comfortable with who you are.

Luvs <3

Nikki

[Guest Nikkichick33]

I forgot to mention, while I mean this with all due respect, The only part i do not second is the last sentence. That is because i love my own body and face and everything, would not trade it for anything. <3

You look great girl!

Nikki.

[Guest miss kindheart]

Well Emma I think your a real cutie pie

Beautiful indeed

You look like a pretty girl to me

vanna

[Guest Whoops]

To the OP: Looking good! Jealous of your facial features there. The chin's the obvious weakpoint but you just need to find a hairstyle to work with it I think. It's came into popularity for women to have masculine features recently (sorry I can't date when, I don't follow fashion -that- closely so I can only parrot to a degree) so just find a style that works with it and have fun

[Guest Gregg Jameson]

HI Emma,

You are courageous to show your pictures and ask for feedback!

We just never know what people will write. : )

You are pretty in these pictures!

I love your dress. Very nice on you.

Your hairstyle is also very feminine, both when worn down and pulled back.

I do not see drawbacks mentioned by some others here.

I do not see overly broad shoulders in these pictures. (Now, I have broad shoulders.)

I do not see what I would call "muscular" arms.

I see shapely arms, which I feel are more attractive for women than arms which are extremely thin and without much contour.

The dress is very revealing of your arms/shoulders, and I think you look great!

Pretty!

Congrats, Emma!

Thanks for sharing with us!

Brad

[Guest EmmaPark94]

Thanks to everyone for your input. I actually had forgotten I'd posted this, until a day where I felt absolutely hopeless and downright hideous, and I saw every one of your posts. I was crying, because of all the wonderful support I got from everyone here. It's like we're a family, here on the Playground. The family I always wanted to live in. Thank you, everyone.

Since the gap of time where I posted this topic and where I'm posting now, I have shaved my chest. I'm not sure if I'll ever start HRT, but if I do, it's great to know I have not just my significant other, but the amazing family I'm a part of right here to come to.

[Guest Isabel1991]

Your so pretty #jealous

Love Isabel