A Question.

[Guest Geej]

Elizabeth K. suggested I move this to MTF as a topic

Ladies a question, Do you find as you mature the physical, pschological and innumerable other factors blend to a huge burden more diffcult to handle on an ongiong basis before finnaly taking the "bull" by the horns and coming to your final decision or did it deem like natural progression?

[Guest Naomi Stardust]

hmmm... can i say both?

lets see, when i was in denial about who i am, it kept piling up and became a burden, when you try being something you're not for a protracted time that tends to happen

but

in retrospect i can see some of it as a progression

and now that i am being honest with myself, right now things some more like a progression

is the glass half full or half empty?

let me say that growing up trying to be male mostly created a snowball effect that finally burst against the unyielding wall of my unconscious mind

since i've 'taken the bull by the horns' and committed to becoming the woman that i am

it has seemed more like a progression, a very slow one tiny step at a time progression

good question

i think it may be somewhat different for everyone, but with many common themes, looking forward to seeing other responses

also there are degrees to self acceptance

does this help?

[Guest michelle.butterfly]

Elizabeth K. suggested I move this to MTF as a topic

Ladies a question. Do you find as you mature physically, pschologically & innumerable other ways, a greater need to accept and take the "bull" by the horns to transition, or does it seem to come as natural progression?

Hi Geej! (hugs)

I found that as soon as I really accepted who I was I was driven to start being who I was, as soon as possible, all the time. I wanted to (and did) go full-time practically immediately. So, I'm not sure that taking the "cow" by the horns was mutually exclusive for me with it being a natural progression; that *was* the natural progression for me.

Leave it to me to choose both choices!

Much love,

Michelle

[Guest Little Sara]

The natural progression of my major depression which became suicidal depression would have been suicide. So not a natural progression in that sense.

It was nearly immediate to me. I found out about it, I moved to do something about it. A year later I was full-time and with hormones, and the Flying Spaghetti Monster help people who would hinder me in the process.

[Guest Kelly Ann]

Erm...is there some specific problem? Other than the brusies, scrapes and sundry issues of over-compensating? LOL...Geej there's absolutely nothing to it...just close your eyes and imagine. When you open them (your eyes silly) think of how you need to proceed to bring your wishes to pass...write them down. Allow some wiggle room...nothing EVER happens the first time just as you wish/expect/hope it will let yourself breathe. If you are THAT focused...do not let anyone persuade you that you are anything but who you KNOW you are...period, end of conversation. If they are a friend thats meant to be in you sphere...they'll be there if not, don't worry and move on. I am going to market a model of a 'worry free zone' in a box soon, the Kelly Ann 'Smile in a Box'. I am contacting the infomercial people...LOL...stay safe and happy, and smile as often as you can...here's a free sample

[Guest Kelly Ann]

er...being a Taurus I could NOT restrain myself hee hee hee...until the next time that is...

[Guest ~Brenda~]

Elizabeth K. suggested I move this to MTF as a topic

Ladies a question, Do you find as you mature the physical, pschological and innumerable other factors blend to a huge burden more diffcult to handle on an ongiong basis before finnaly taking the "bull" by the horns and coming to your final decision or did it deem like natural progression?

Dear Geej,

For myself, as I have grown older, I have understood myself better and better. One of the true blessings of age is that you become less and less concerned about how others think about you. This revelation is very liberating!!! As time passes, you become more and more confident in who and what you are, and you express that!

Just my thoughts,

bernie

[Guest Naomi Stardust]

and the Flying Spaghetti Monster help people who would hinder me in the process.

:lol:

flying spaghetti monster!

[Guest Geej]

I appreciate your views however the question was meant to be more of an esoteric bent than my personal situation.

I know I've long way to go & a short time time to do it in. I may never get there, I do have new impetus to get there from the notes of support I've received in this forum & introductions.

THANKS

[Guest Donna Jean]

I know I've long way to go & a short time time to do it in. I may never get there, I do have new impetus to get there from the notes of support I've received in this forum & introductions.

THANKS

We'll get there, Hon.......don't worry....but it's true, we're not 20 anymore so it becomes much more imparative for us!

And in answer to your esoteric question....

Over the years I exerted great effort of denial of my condition....growing up when I did...it was less understood and seen as more of a perversion....I kept Donna Jean down, although she was clawing to get loose...

It grew and grew until it finally burst....I could fight no more, no matter the consequences........

And now Donna Jean is looking back at me in the mirror...I alwasy WAS DJ ..how could I have been so stupid?

Now I can see that the grass is green...the sky is blue....it was all shades of gray before....

Very liberating!

Thanks for the question, Geej!....makes one think...those are the best kind!

XXOO

Donna Jean

[Sally]

To me the burden was trying to be who everyone else wanted me to be, the pressure got so much that I could not take it anymore.

Realizing who I have always been and embracing her for tha good person that she is has lifted the weight of the world off of my shoulders and allowed the progression to begin.

There are a lot of people trying to put that burden back on me, but I will not take it back - when I have reached the point this summer when I have finished the weddings that I have already booked, I will be Sally full time and forever!

Love ya,

Sally

[Guest DeniseNM]

Well for me it has always been a progression but at times I have made it a burden because of the obstacles that I put in front of myself or allowed to be put there. Life is a progression in my opinion because each step we have taken has brought us to where we are and, more importantly, to WHO we are today. I haven't always liked who and where I have been in the past but I do like who I am today. I think Cpt. Kirk said it best in one of the Star Trek movies (the one with Spock's half-brother) when asked if he wanted to get rid of all his past pain and he answered "No, the pain and mistakes and everything has made me who I am today. Are there times I turned left when I should have turned right? Yes there are but I want the pain, I need the pain because that has helped make me who I am today." So I guess I will stay with the progression with all the burdens that come with it.

Denise (wondering if she should go right or left )

[Guest Elizabeth K]

Denise - go right, then turn left....NONONO, go left then turn right...NONONO - aww just go!

I think that is kinda what I think. I am going to get there no matter which way I turn. Natural progression? Influenced by other factors?

As Forrest Gump said at the end of the movie, "I think it was a little of both."

GeeJ - tole ya this was a good TOPIC! Please post some more.

Lizzy

[Guest DeniseNM]

Denise - go right, then turn left....NONONO, go left then turn right...NONONO - aww just go!

Lizzy I went right then left .... no wait it might have been left then right .... no no it was left left right ... no wait that might have been the hokey pokey I was doing .

Oh man now I am back where I started after 3 lefts and turning all about

Denise (being confused as normal )

[Sally]

Lizzy I went right then left .... no wait it might have been left then right .... no no it was left left right ... no wait that might have been the hokey pokey I was doing .

Oh man now I am back where I started after 3 lefts and turning all about

Denise (being confused as normal )

What if the Hokey Pokey is what its all about?

It is all in how you look at it, burden or process can be the same thing.

Remember the different uses of the Phrase "as good as it gets'.

In a beer commercial a bunch of young guys are having a beach picnic around a fire at night and when they open the advertiser's beer the Swedish Bikini Team (whatever that is) arrive in their bikinis (now I get it) and the party gets underway.

In the move "As Good As It Gets", Jack Nicholson when leaving his Psychiatrist's office turns to the roomful of patients waiting for their sessions and says, "What if this is as good as it gets?"

Two very different meanings from the same words.

This is as good as it gets - it is up to you to decide if that gives you hope or despair, brings comfort or anguish - life is like that you can look at almost everything as being good and bad simultaneously.

Love ya,

Sally

[Guest DeniseNM]

This is as good as it gets - it is up to you to decide if that gives you hope or despair, brings comfort or anguish - life is like that you can look at almost everything as being good and bad simultaneously.

Love ya,

Sally

Very true Sally (once again wisdom from Sally ) it all depends on how you choose to look at things. If you want a different perspective of something look at it while standing on your head.

As my sig says "Life is what happens while we are making other plans."

Denise

[Guest Geej]

I asked for views outside the looking glass and I got 'em. Its always good to step back and take a look. I guess its never easy going down a road less travelled. "RIGHT WRONG or INDIFFERENT"

Cheers Geej