Deodrant

[Guest leo]

is this true

if a bio women wears mens deodrant it makes them sweat more?

well my mum said that to me this morning, as iv switched deodrant know,

i dont know whether she is trying to put me down or something

but i do know shes been snooping in my room

my reply was "was i haven't noticed any change"

i just sometimes feel we are taking 1 step forward but 2 steps back at times

[Sally]

well, Leo,

Remember these two things:

1) Your mother loves you and wants the est for you.

2) 99% of the information that most people have gotten about transsexuals is just gossip and almosty always wrong!

Stay with her, I believe that she is trying but battling against everything that she has ever heard about this.

As to sweating more - I have never heard that one!

Love ya,

Sally

[Guest StrandedOutThere]

is this true

if a bio women wears mens deodrant it makes them sweat more?

well my mum said that to me this morning, as iv switched deodrant know,

i dont know whether she is trying to put me down or something

but i do know shes been snooping in my room

my reply was "was i haven't noticed any change"

i just sometimes feel we are taking 1 step forward but 2 steps back at times

Oh Leo, that's just a load of poo. Men's deodorant doesn't make you sweat more or less or anything. There's nothing in it that can do that. What commonly IS the case is that I think men's deodorant is a lot of times just deodorant that doesn't contain antiperspirant. Women's deodorant almost always seems to contain antiperspirant. You just have to read the label. If you get men's deodorant that contains antiperspirant then it will be the same as the women's, only it smells different.

My mom used to snoop my room when I lived at home. She said she didn't, but she totally did. You should leave something interesting around for her to find...like a little note. That's what I did to my mom. It said "Hi there, Mom. I see you are digging through my sock drawer. I hope you realize that I'd never be stupid enough to hide anything in here. Love, Ainsley".

Just wait it out. Things get better as you get older...mostly.

[Guest Cody_T]

doubt it. I have a female friend who wears mens' deodorant (some long story about how she doesn't want to smell like sweaty berries and flowers.... I think..) and I think if that were true she'd be the type to freak out and stop wearing it. I noticed the opposite, really. It seems to work better for me than womens' deodorant and I sweat less.

[Guest mia 1]

Funny thing but I switched from Old Spice deodarant that I've been using since 9th grade and now use HERBAL CLEAR hypoallergenic...why smell like a man when I can smell like a woman..if any one gets that close...Leo your Mom means well but tell her you have to wear what fells good...Mia

[Guest Little Sara]

I umm, don't use deodorant or perfume. It's never really caused an issue for me. I have no armpit hair which helps I guess. I also need a LOT to sweat, and its pretty odorless.

[Guest Zabrak]

Shes lieing to you.

[Guest Elizabeth K]

She just doesn't know, I think. People say dumb things sometimes without meaning to.

Deodorant

Antiperspirant

Scented

Unscented

Thats about it.

If you are MTF and on HRT, the estrogen will change your scent to more female - it's a chemical thing. I assume it's the same for FTM on T. So you may want to check how scents (deodorant, creames, perfumes, other good smelling lotions & potions) smell on the 'new' you. It takes a few months usually so don't check right away.

If you use a deoderant without an antiperspirant, it will mask the odors of the bacteria on your skin (the major cause of body odor) but will not decrease your levels of sweating. Stress hormones will ALSO produce odors, and are chemically in your perspiration, so if you are scared or freaked out, deoderants may fail you. This doesn't even take in what happens during sexual arousal!

If you use a deoderant WITH an antiperspirant, it will ALSO tend to reduce sweating, at least until it wears off. The bad news is it does this usually by blocking sweat ducts, which can give some people trouble. So be sparing when testing out a deoderant with an antiperspirant to make certain your skin will tolerate it.

It's said men sweat more than women. This actually depends upon the size and genetic make-up of a person. Women tend to be smaller, and are sometimes less robustly active physically, tend to work indoors, so we CAN sweat less - but there is no guarantee. If you have a sweat gene - you will sweat.

Men also tend to not shave the hair under their arms. Hair is actually nature's way to keep arms from chaffing [hair is slick] - BUT hair can collect and hold odors.

Estrogen is sweeter smelling that the chemicals of testosterone, so a woman's odor may be more pleasant. But a woman has a higher sense of smell, which helps in child rearing - which makes us acutely aware of odors. And not to be indelicate, women have other parts of the body to worry about... so we want to constantly feel and present as clean and odor free as possible [even T-girls]. Odor radar in a woman can be super-sensitive.

So looking at all that, women usually want a deoderant with a pleasant scent, and probably an antiperspirant as we want to protect expensive clothing. Also, our lower activity indoors seems to keep us drier, which some may attribute to the antiperspirant. So there is the misconception.

Men may prefer an unscented deoderant, as they cannot depend upon an antiperspirant when sweating a great deal. Plus males tend to ignore perspiration - its a masculine thing to sweat, in their opinion.

So that is sometimes how it works out. You will need to test the various combinations to see what works for you.

I always used 'Secret" before transitioning because I liked the subtle hint of smelling feminine. That's what we transsexual do, affirmation of femaleness [or maleness] in the most ridiculous ways, sometimes. Now my scent has changed on HRT, I have to use another product for a better scent - but actually I really DO smell female now - an amazing thing! And I seem to 'perspire' less [a lady never 'sweats'- she glows!]. Donno - maybe moma was right? Its more likely I no longer have the strength to move and grunt and strain , doing 'man' things. I also rather stay in an air-conditioned house or office. It keeps my clothes and ... emmmm... make-up, fresher.

Hope this helps

Lizzy

[Guest StrandedOutThere]

I don't know anything about sex differences in sweat amount or sweat patterns. However, it does seem like I sweat more on T. That might just be due to working out more or something though. I'm not sure. I sweated a lot before T also, as does my sister. We've all got the sweat gene.

[Guest leo]

i barely sweat

but i do find many deodrants dont work for me

also i have had a change in smell beacuse i dont shave my pit hair anymore

[Guest MrAwesome]

Okay like everyone else said, that's bull feaces! That's all I have to say, and I personally don't feel a need to use deodorant that often. but axe seems to do the trick.

[Guest April63]

I know a girl who likes to wear Axe. But it's supposed to smell good right?

As for sweating more, that was probably due to the confusion about the deodorant being anti-perspirant or not. You can find deodorants with anti-perspirant in them that are for guys, but some are only deodorants. Just read the label.

April

[Guest Jackson]

I've had the same deodorant for years (way before this whole issue) which I think purely by accident (maybe) was a men's deodorant. I do sweat more now, but like I mentioned in the Smells topic, I think it has to do more with my core body temperature. I'm much more likely now to be warm than to be cold. I can also tolerate the cold a lot better now. Which also means that I believe I'll have more trouble tolerating heat now too.

So if someone hears about a Civil War reenactor spontaneously combusting at a reenactment this summer, it's me.

[Guest Little Sara]

I've had the same deodorant for years (way before this whole issue) which I think purely by accident (maybe) was a men's deodorant. I do sweat more now, but like I mentioned in the Smells topic, I think it has to do more with my core body temperature. I'm much more likely now to be warm than to be cold. I can also tolerate the cold a lot better now. Which also means that I believe I'll have more trouble tolerating heat now too.

So if someone hears about a Civil War reenactor spontaneously combusting at a reenactment this summer, it's me.

lol at the last line

I'm the opposite, my core temperature is pretty low. I tolerate the cold badly, and the heat easily. I'm at my best in the middle of summer. If I don't do any streneous activity for a while (mowning the lawn), I will not sweat.

[Guest Keane]

That's a lie. Men's deodorant doesn't make you sweat more, but women's deodorant prevents sweating more, I think.

[Guest RainBird]

Playing nice are we boys?

I think Jackson may be referring to 'sweating more' being associated with masculinizing hormones and body temperature change rather than a deoderant

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[Guest StrandedOutThere]

I think the time has come for me to share my theory of deodorants. I've noticed that, over time, whatever brand of deodorant I'm using stops working so well. All is well for a time.... then.... BAM! B.O.

This makes me sad. Although I relish in my stink, others do not.

Since bacteria in the pits cause the stink, I believe that one's armpit flora and fauna might adapt to a certain brand. Now I switch between about 3 brands periodically. Sometimes I still stink, but at least I feel like I'm being proactive.

[Guest Jackson]

I think Jackson may be referring to 'sweating more' being associated with masculinizing hormones and body temperature change rather than a deoderant

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Yeah, that's it. I swear I'm going to spontaneously combust this summer. My orally measured temperature used to be around 96.8 F and now I'm near 98 F usually. Combine that with three layers of clothing with the outermost layer being heavy wool and ambient air temperatures around 90 F and I'll be like a vampire. A big poof and a pile of dust.

[Guest StrandedOutThere]

Yeah, that's it. I swear I'm going to spontaneously combust this summer. My orally measured temperature used to be around 96.8 F and now I'm near 98 F usually. Combine that with three layers of clothing with the outermost layer being heavy wool and ambient air temperatures around 90 F and I'll be like a vampire. A big poof and a pile of dust.

Dude, when I lived in South Carolina I used to play paintball out in the woods wearing BDU's. The summers were so HOT I'd almost get heat stroke. I can't imagine wearing wool over multiple layers. You seriously may incinerate. Either way, I wouldn't want to smell your outfit after a day or so. I bet that stuff is ripe.

My temperature has always been like 98.3 when it's normal. I haven't taken it lately. I do feel hot more often, but I don't know why. Man, the first couple months after starting testosterone I had hot flashes like nobody's business.

[Guest Sergei]

Seriously leo, that is complete rubbish. I don't know where your mum has gotten that one from. I know tones of women, striaght women, and gay women, who wear mens deodorant just because they like the smell more than ones made for women.

[Guest Jackson]

Dude, when I lived in South Carolina I used to play paintball out in the woods wearing BDU's. The summers were so HOT I'd almost get heat stroke. I can't imagine wearing wool over multiple layers. You seriously may incinerate. Either way, I wouldn't want to smell your outfit after a day or so. I bet that stuff is ripe.

The worst part is that I've already had heat stroke several times over the past couple of years. Now I might as well just give up and have someone keep a fire extinguisher or something. I really don't know what I'm going to do this summer. To be authentic, most of us don't wash our uniforms. If we do, it's only one or twice while owning the articles of clothing. Seriously.

So what is one of the best deodorants on the US market today? Seems like I'll need the best.

[Guest StrandedOutThere]

The worst part is that I've already had heat stroke several times over the past couple of years. Now I might as well just give up and have someone keep a fire extinguisher or something. I really don't know what I'm going to do this summer. To be authentic, most of us don't wash our uniforms. If we do, it's only one or twice while owning the articles of clothing. Seriously.

So what is one of the best deodorants on the US market today? Seems like I'll need the best.

Not washing stuff probably does add a lot to the authenticity!

Maybe keep some ice packs in your jacket?

I have had good luck with the Right Guard stuff that has that stripe down the middle. Good stuff.

[Guest Jackson]

Hey, the ice packs in my jacket would work. Not for long probably but it's worth a shot.

I'll buy the Right Guard the next time I go to town. (That sounds so country, but I can't help it.)