Semi-official orchiectomy in SE Asia for Androgyns

[Guest Makusima]

Greetings! Hello

First of all, sorry for my English. It's not my native language and there are only few months of learning. Originally I'm from little Eastern European non-EU country - Moldova - but currently I live in Cambodia. I'm 25 years old biological male.

By self-identification I'm not male nor female, but something middle of the road. Well, ladyboy is good word, but best for me - androgynous agender. I feel so from early puberty, something around 11 years old. From 2009 I'm on antiandrogen medication, androcur each day. I did not use female hormones, because don't want to become fully woman-like, instead I would like low level of all gender hormones. I've decide to make next and last step in my Male to Androgyn transition: orchiectomy.

Currently I live in Cambodia. Here is no interesting options for orchiectomy. But one country nearby - Thailand - has a lot. I live in Bangkok for a few months in the past and find some interesting options for me. I need to say, that I'm not interested in extremely expensive foreigner-orientated clinics, which take astronomical amounts of money for orchiectomy surgeries: from 800 to 3000 US dollars for such surgery. Well, I think, for clients from rich countries from Western Europe, US-Canada, Japan, etc. it's OK. But not for somebody from Moldova or Cambodia. The middle wage in Moldova is 150..180 US dollars per month. For Cambodia the same. Well, I have a little bit higher wage, but still not enough. Even androcur medication, which I take every day, is VERY expensive for me.

So, when I was in Thailand, I have looked for - and found! - surgeons for local MtF, ladyboys, etc., not for foreigner. And I have found two. One offer to me 200$ for orchiectomy, the second even lower - 5000 Bahts. BUT! Both of them asked me for two psychiatrists evaluations, saying It's official procedure in Thailand. First, it would cost me money too and even more than surgery itself. Second, I am not sure about results. Because I'm not MtF, but have androgynous agendered self-identification.

Maybe you have some recommendations for me? I can visit Thailand, it's not far from me and visa isn't a problem. But I'm looking for surgeon for thai-locals, who would make orchiectomy for me without psychiatrists evaluations. Do you know such surgeons? Maybe, you can recommend one for me? If not, maybe you can ask somebody familiar about such surgeons?

Thank you a lot!

Sincerely,
Makusima

[Guest Kenna Dixon]

I can't help with recommendations, but I do want to compliment you on your use of English.

I never would have guessed that you have spent so little time studying the language.

[Guest Ripley]

I'm afraid I can't help with finding a surgeon, sorry.

What are your plans for care after the orchiectomy though? Keep in mind that an orchiectomy without supplementary hormones afterwards will leave you with osteoporosis and hot flashes. I have no idea if the hot flashes ever go away, but I had to wait 2 months after my orchiectomy before I was able to start estrogen and the hot flashes only got worse as time went on.

[Charlize]

Dear Makusima, Please realize that the recommendation for two surgeons that is required in Cambodia is there for a good reason. Perhaps it would be a good idea to see at least one gender therapist and discuss your plans and desires. Often the second visit is simply a formality. My GT was excellent at helping me find resources as well as understanding my direction.

I have been waiting for an orchiectomy for some time now. Due to a heart condition it has been difficult to get the OK. You on the other hand are young and while anti androgens are not particularly pleasant; as long as the hormones are correct they are bearable. Please do be careful and get professional help to keep yourself healthy.

PS...... Welcome to Laura's.

Hugs,

Charlize